What's Special About This Pattern Cent?

RKKay · June 4, 2009 12:15AM

HINT: It's not on the obverse or reverse. It's somewhere in between.

jessecarlk · June 4, 2009 12:18AM

reeded edge?

STONE · June 4, 2009 12:20AM

Lettered Edge

drwstr123 · June 4, 2009 12:20AM

<< reeded edge? >>

Looks like in the reflection.

speety · June 4, 2009 12:24AM

Either lettered edge or the composition. Either way, nice looking pattern!

RKKay · June 4, 2009 12:31AM

Good guesses, but not yet. To my knowledge, this pattern, or one just like it first appeared at auction in 1863.

ambro51 · June 4, 2009 12:34AM

edge date?

RKKay · June 4, 2009 12:38AM

Running out...Will reveal answer when I return (2 hours)...

fugnchill · June 4, 2009 12:51AM

starred edge!

Lestrrr

devious · June 4, 2009 1:04AM

Bronze!? ... Something to do with the metal composition...

doh · June 4, 2009 1:06AM

That's pretty dang cool.

boiler78 · June 4, 2009 1:22AM

Plate coin for Judd book ninth edition? Probably tested out as something other than J168??

Lakesammman · June 4, 2009 1:32AM

What's really cool is that your back and actively posting again.

Broadstruck · June 4, 2009 1:48AM

Is it a J167 that's actually a J169 after testing

jmcu12 · June 4, 2009 1:51AM

The planchet is thin?

pheh · June 4, 2009 2:03AM

Reduced diameter?

coolest · June 4, 2009 2:12AM

You own it?

IGWT · June 4, 2009 2:25AM

The SEM-EDX analysis shows 15% cocoa powder, 40% milk fat, and 45% sweetener.

RKKay · June 4, 2009 2:33AM

<< The planchet is thin? >>

Very close. It's a confirmed J-167 (100% copper). What's special is that it is on a thick planchet and weighs 1.5 times normal. Here's a link: J-167 Thick

It's the most complete strike I've seen on ann LFE. Its edge is on the left. A normal J-167 is on the right.

RKKay · June 4, 2009 2:34AM

<< The SEM-EDX analysis shows 15% cocoa powder, 40% milk fat, and 45% sweetener. >>

GOT IT!!!

boiler78 · June 4, 2009 2:35AM

Rick
What is the assigned grade?
Mark

boiler78 · June 4, 2009 4:03AM

A most excellent coin Rick and it is plated as J168 in the ninth edition of the Judd book.

Is it available?

STONE · June 4, 2009 4:12AM

Now how could we tell it was thick based on your original pics

Just messin, that's pretty neat

RKKay · June 4, 2009 5:32AM

<< A most excellent coin Rick and it is plated as J168 in the ninth edition of the Judd book.

Is it available? >>

It's NGC PF65BN and NO F^&%$! WAY!

RKKay · June 4, 2009 5:35AM

<< Rick,
did you acquire it attributed incorrectly on the holder or what is it even holdered? >>

Bought it holdered as J-168; tested out J-167. Just recently noticed it was thick. I had thought the weight was a typo.

Broadstruck · June 4, 2009 6:19AM

So is it a Eagle Piefort

EagleEye · June 4, 2009 6:27AM

Is it the same reverse die as the other large wreath pieces? (4 leaves under E) If so, I don't see the clash marks by the CE. If they are not there it may be an early strike original (First strike?) and not a restrike on the 1863 J-319 3¢ pattern planchet as you supposed it may be.

RKKay · June 4, 2009 11:51AM

<< Is it the same reverse die as the other large wreath pieces? (4 leaves under E) If so, I don't see the clash marks by the CE. If they are not there it may be an early strike original (First strike?) and not a restrike on the 1863 J-319 3¢ pattern planchet as you supposed it may be. >>

My theory has always been to wait and see, though Saul Teichman suggested it may be it was struck on a planchet meant for a J-319. There are several factors which come into play, but I tend to agree with you.

Zoins · June 4, 2009 12:58PM

Looks very nice. Congrats.

RKKay · June 4, 2009 1:11PM

Thanks

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