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Kinda bummed.
I finally found a centered example of this card, but Psa didn't like it very much!!
14608874 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1969 TOPPS 85 LOU BROCK Card US
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I finally found a centered example of this card, but Psa didn't like it very much!!
14608874 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1969 TOPPS 85 LOU BROCK Card US
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<< <i>How did that get a 4? Surface wrinkle or something? >>
I know the corners aren't razor sharp, but I still think they look pretty nice. I don't know what else it could have been other then a surface wrinkle. Before I bought the card I looked at it under a 7X lighted loupe, and both surfaces looked great. I sent it in as one of my 6 freebies.
The registration on that card is incredible!!
I got a PSA 6 coming back from the group sub that doesn't have that pop
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14608874 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1969 TOPPS 85 LOU BROCK Card US >>
What!?!?! A 4????
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<< <i>How did that get a 4? Surface wrinkle or something? >>
I know the corners aren't razor sharp, but I still think they look pretty nice. I don't know what else it could have been other then a surface wrinkle. Before I bought the card I looked at it under a 7X lighted loupe, and both surfaces looked great. I sent it in as one of my 6 freebies. >>
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Hi Mike,
Never discount the possibility that the wrinkle might have developed after it reached its destination.
I sent in a '51 Bowman Mantle RC that was expected to be in the 7 or 8 range .... it came back a 5 due to a damaged corner
Just saying ... it might not be you!
PoppaJ
Edited to add - Can you provide a scan of the reverse?
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I'm starting to keep a pile of them and resubmit into PSA. These aren't high grade cards either, mostly 5-7.
If I remember correctly, I think you where saying that you've never sent any of your '52 Topps 'Mantles in for grading, and that you have no intentions of doing so. Well, the more I play the whole grading game, the more I appreciate your decision on keeping them raw, and not chasing after other peoples opinions on them.
So +1 for Poppa J
Yours looks like a 7, so a PSA 4 sounds right even if there is the tiniest of wrinkles.
I think PSA needs to re-think their position on surface wrinkles that are not even visible but under very high magnification.
It is simply a flaw on the card, and no more of a flaw then a rough edge, indentation, fisheye or a dinged corner IMO.
A drop of 3 grades should be reserved for actual creases.
<< <i>Poppa J,
If I remember correctly, I think you where saying that you've never sent any of your '52 Topps 'Mantles in for grading, and that you have no intentions of doing so. Well, the more I play the whole grading game, the more I appreciate your decision on keeping them raw, and not chasing after other peoples opinions on them.
So +1 for Poppa J >>
mmync,
I find what you said very profound...especially the part about not chasing after others' opinions. That goes to the very heart of TPG. The only cards that I submit are for my 1972 OPC CFL registered set, and that is just to feed my ego.
I know this will sound arrogant, but I'll bet others share the same opinion: The only grade that counts is the one that I say it is. What I mean by that is if I'm satisfied with a card's condition, I'm happy. It doesn't matter to me what anyone else, TPG's included, say about it. I'm very strict in evaluating my cards, so the quality of my collection remains high. I crack out EVERY graded card I buy (except '72 CFL) no matter how old the card or how high the grade. I collect cards, not plastic.
Keeping my collection raw allows me to enjoy it just as I did when I was a kid (minus the bike spokes!), the way I believe cards were meant to be enjoyed. If I should ever decide to sell, I might send in some of the higher value cards for grading just to entice more buyers and increase my haul. I am, however, a card lover/collector, not an investor.
Before those who swear by TPG engage me in a debate, I know that slabbing cards has it's merits. Except for protecting the card, though, most of the positives relate to buyer confidence and seller profit...both good things. Like I said above, I am not an investor. I could not care any less about a cards book value, average realized prices, or any of that stuff. If I like a card and can afford it, I buy it. If I have duplicates, I keep the best one (according to my own assessment) and sell the rest (always relatively cheap).
Semper Fi
Dan
Kiss me twice.....let's party.