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Rob85635Rob85635 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭
Can they still be found legitimately in the wild? Yes we all know of the "sealed proof set could contain a cameo franklin" auctions on ebay and we all know how that works, but is there a legitimate source for buying a really sealed proof set from the Franklin years? I was just reading another thread with a dcam proof franklin picture and I must say, there is almost nothing in the world more beautiful, except my wife of course.
Rob the Newbie

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, you can certainly find them in the raw in proof sets. They may have acquired a little haze over the years so a quick dip might be necessary, but they are still definitely out there.
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Mint sealed boxes are a good source, ones that contain 5 sets/10 sets etc. It's still like playing the lotto but every now and then...bingo and early die struck cam proof unveils itself.
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  • Yes, Ive had great luck many times. My best finds yet are 5 1956 Type 1 halfs. 3 of them with cam and 1 with what I would call dcam and one in the middle.


    2 came from a local dealer in Philly. & the others came from a pawnshop.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    These are still around, but you have to look.

    I have a sealed box of 10 1958 sets. debating to sell the box or break them open.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    they can still be found.

    it's important to remember that Cameo and Deep Cameo Franklin Half-Dollars never existed in large numbers to begin with, so when you hear of how difficult it is to find them just remember that it always has been that way. i made a 68UCAM from a 1955 flat pack about six months ago and i believe MadMarty did the same or better with a 1963, so just keep looking. the DCAM coins show up in the most unexpected places, not just the Franklins. we bought a nice Roosevelt Dime set yesterday in a Dansco folder that i was flipping through. in the 1957 hole it appears to have a DCAM Proof instead of an MS issue, not a big dollar coin but a nice suprise just the same.
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They can still be found - especially the more common dates that didn't warrant putting in a holder.

    But cameos in the wild are on the endangered species list.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You can still find Cameo Proof Franklin halves in OGP sets and as raw singles or sets in commercial holders. However, most OGP sets have been looked over many times for Cameos. If you find a Cameo half in an OGP, you are very lucky. If you find a Cameo half in a commercial holder, most of the time the coin will have flaws (hairlines, milk spots, carbon spots, etc.) which will give a low grade.

    If you really like these coins and start looking for them raw, you will accumulate quite a few of them (along with Cameo proof and SMS coins of other series and denominations). From the mid-late 70's forward, the mint's production technology became better and more cameos resulted, to the point where today all proofs from the Mint are DCAM gems, all very common.

    From 1970 on back Cameos are much harder to find.

    When you start out you will get excited at any clean coin that has frosted devices. As you look at and acquire more of these coins you will develope a better eye for quality. The coins you loved when you first acquired them will eventually look not so nice as you remember. The devices will not have the thick frost you thought it did and the fields will look not so deep, watery and mirrored.

    You will find that with a glance you can tell if a Cameo is a run of the mill Cameo or if it is one that screams high grade CAM or possibly even DCAM at you.

    After you develop an eye for really, really nice Cameos, you will then appreciate much more just how difficult it is to find a high grade Cameo or DCAM coin.
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    Pg. 6 of Tomaska's PROOF COINAGE book ;

    " as of 1991, I would estimate that 85% to 95% of all original proof sets from 1950-1964 have been searched for cameo coinage.

    If one finds a proof set from this era in a dealers coin shop or at a coin show, the chances are it has been inspected at least

    20 - 30 times by various individuals for cameos. "

    One feller , Kirk Harris , spent the better part of ten years ( 1979-1989) looking at many hundreds of thousands of proof coins :

    he never found a superb cameo 1950,1951,1952,1953,1955, 1957,1958,1959,1960 or 1961 Franklin !


    While it might seem that such coins are not to rare considering the sheer numbers of them available in the current marketplace -

    do not be mislead into thinking there still out there to be found .

    You might hear of someone finding one somewhere , but the odds you will find one are extremely low
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    just ignore all the estimates and keep looking for the coins. they are out there, but if you follow the advice of a guy like Tomaska you're just moving aside so he can find them. there are plenty of sets yet to be searched.
  • CoinyCoiny Posts: 711 ✭✭
    Did you guys see Rick T.'s 1950 NGC PF66 Cam get sold tonight for $1300?
    With a minute to go , the price tag was 857. Although I already have one in my registry set,
    I could not resist bidding and trying a quick flip, but got out bid with 8 seconds to go.

    $1,300 is a far cry from the Numis. price tag of $4300!
    Someone got one heck of a deal @ this level!






    Coiny

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