2009 Lincoln spots - what is causing this?

Rob85635 · May 28, 2009 1:33PM

I am opening one of four bank rolls I got today. Every one so far in the roll has these aweful spots. Is this caused by something the mint did or is it from the company that rolled them for the bank? I finally get some rolls at face and nothing to add to my collection because they look aweful. You can see it with the naked eye, some are as bad as this one and some not so bad but every one so far has spots.

GFourDriver · May 28, 2009 1:36PM

It looks like spotting from the rinse at the mint.

stinkinlincoln · May 28, 2009 1:42PM

Thats the new Zincoln Lincoln cent. Quality control at its finest.

savoyspecial · May 28, 2009 1:43PM

storage of planchets in less than optimal conditions prior to minting

Rob85635 · May 28, 2009 1:48PM

UGH, frustrating. I hoped to get a few to put away but I guess I better keep looking. With the naked eye the large spots are barely visible, when you put under magnification they pop out. So this is pre-strike blank damage? Is this prevelant throughout the Denver pennies? I have 3 more rolls I got today and a roll from another source. I dont want to open any more since every one so far in this roll is like this and I am half way through checking them.

ChrisRx · May 28, 2009 1:53PM

Yep - Immediately noticed this when I opened up my first roll. I bought two rolls of the first 2009 Lincoln cents and after those I don't plan on buying any more at more than face value.

adamlaneus · May 28, 2009 1:55PM

We have a lot of folks taking guesses here.

My turn.

I tend to think this is a post strike kind of thing, not a pre-strike kind of thing.

And that these were once darker spots where corrosion had started. The rinse stopped that corrosion, but has at the same time exposed an etched crystalline surface in the shape of the original spot. The whitish look comes from the way the crystals reflect the light and since it is in the surface of the copper, it is quite impossible to remove with further chemical action. They sure look like hard water spots, but these are not simple carbonate deposits that can be dissolved away.

MsMorrisine · May 28, 2009 2:16PM

<< <i> Is this prevelant throughout the Denver pennies? >>

Denver?

try both.

19Lyds · May 28, 2009 3:43PM

To me, those spots look like rinse residue where the planchet did not dry properly. Remember that these things get washed before electroplating and after electroplating.
They may even get wshed once more before they are coined!

The trick will be in finding coins without those spots!

TennesseeDave · May 28, 2009 10:30PM

I was able to pick up a few that are relatively spot-free from my local coin shop.They let me pick through the coins they were selling as singles that had been put into tubes.I got 2 Denver and 2 Philly for $1.They are probably 65 quality.They also were selling the LP1 set for $38.99

WaterSport · May 29, 2009 12:32AM

These really started to show up on 2005 Satins. So whatever they started to do regarding washing started then.

WS

InternetJunky · May 29, 2009 12:41AM

Makes me wonder if the spots are done intentionally. Create a frenzy with low mintage coins, make it near impossible for collectors to acquire them without paying a premium, then on top of it make it hard to find a quality coin. I mean seriously, the technology thats out there, especially what technology the government has, these spots should be an easy fix. They have to know it's an issue...

drwstr123 · May 29, 2009 12:45AM

<< <i>Makes me wonder if the spots are done intentionally. Create a frenzy with low mintage coins, make it near impossible for collectors to acquire them without paying a premium, then on top of it make it hard to find a quality coin. I mean seriously, the technology thats out there, especially what technology the government has, these spots should be an easy fix. They have to know it's an issue... >>

A government agency actually succeeding at an intention??? I doubt it.

tahoe98 · May 29, 2009 5:50AM

..........needs some of this in the rinse cycle.

2009 Lincoln spots - what is causing this?

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