1944 P Wartime Jefferson Nickel Misspelling Mint Error
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I believe I,ve discovered a unique 1944 P wartime nickel that was double struck in collar on both sides. As a result of a rotated double strike, the reverse has the word PLURIBUS misspelled as PLUEIBUS. I am trying to determine a value for an error such as this but I've been unable to find another like this in any denomination. Error experts, what would you estimate the value of an error like this?
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It looks like it's spelled wrong because of the overlap of the lettering on both strikes.
I can't make out both positions from the pics. I can't rule out that it might be a flipped over double strike or only rotated but I'm fairly certain it's a fully double struck coin.
You might need some better pics of all details and get an opinion of Fred Weinberg or Mike Diamond.
While on early 19th century coinage the mottos were punched into individual dies one letter at a time, the mottos on a 1944-P (and all Jefferson nickels, for that matter) are part of the design hub, making it impossible for a single coin or die to have a misspelling. If one has it, they will all have it (like PLURIBVS the back of the Peace Dollar
That said, your coin has an incompletely formed R which very closely resembles a similarly incomplete E. The letters in the motto were either not struck up properly (a result of a thin planchet or a filled die) or they were flattened after the strike. It is also possible the coin was deliberately altered (it looks like the B a couple of letters over was also changed to a resemble a P). I also see a couple of dents in the field below the motto and to the left of the dome, which lead me to think the coin exhibits post-Mint damage.
As a damaged coin, I'm afraid it does not hold much value beyond it's intrinsic value as silver. However, it does have a lot of "character" and it could be worth a few bucks to someone based on that alone.
Sean Reynolds
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<< <i>WOW, that looks like quite an error.
It looks like it's spelled wrong because of the overlap of the lettering on both strikes.
I can't make out both positions from the pics. I can't rule out that it might be a flipped over double strike or only rotated but I'm fairly certain it's a fully double struck coin.
You might need some better pics of all details and get an opinion of Fred Weinberg or Mike Diamond. >>
HOLY CRAP! I take back everything I just said above, I think Ed just nailed it. The "damage" in the field isn't damage at all but the remains of the left side of the building from the initial strike. The R of PLURIBUS was struck over the E from the first strike, resulting in the E being partially obliterated. Looking at the obverse more closely, I can also see the faint outline of the back of the portrait rotated inder the second strike.
GrumpyEd, excellent catch! COOP, that is actually a valuable error coin, double struck in collar.
Sean Reynolds
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<< <i>I'M NOT DELETING THIS TO SHOW EVEN THE "EXPERTS" FUMBLE THE OCCASIONAL SNAP, BUT IGNORE IT PLEASE, THE POST ABOVE NAILED THE ATTRIBUTION >>
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fairly scarce on the Warnickel series -
In this condition, I'd guess it's a few hundred dollar coin,
if you can find the right buyer for it, or the right bidders.
Nice find....
<< <i>Hey, cool find. I like when people find stuff like this; it gives me hope that I can still find something cool out there
Great find COOP!
Nice Find!
Very cool find. Congrats.
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<< <i>I'M NOT DELETING THIS TO SHOW EVEN THE "EXPERTS" FUMBLE THE OCCASIONAL SNAP, BUT IGNORE IT PLEASE, THE POST ABOVE NAILED THE ATTRIBUTION
While on early 19th century coinage the mottos were punched into individual dies one letter at a time, the mottos on a 1944-P (and all Jefferson nickels, for that matter) are part of the design hub, making it impossible for a single coin or die to have a misspelling. If one has it, they will all have it (like PLURIBVS the back of the Peace Dollar
That said, your coin has an incompletely formed R which very closely resembles a similarly incomplete E. The letters in the motto were either not struck up properly (a result of a thin planchet or a filled die) or they were flattened after the strike. It is also possible the coin was deliberately altered (it looks like the B a couple of letters over was also changed to a resemble a P). I also see a couple of dents in the field below the motto and to the left of the dome, which lead me to think the coin exhibits post-Mint damage.
As a damaged coin, I'm afraid it does not hold much value beyond it's intrinsic value as silver. However, it does have a lot of "character" and it could be worth a few bucks to someone based on that alone.
Sean Reynolds >>
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