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I had an amusing experience at a B&M yesterday regarding a 1968 "No S" dime.
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I had a court hearing in a small central valley of California town yesterday afternoon.
After striking yet another masterful blow in court for Truth, Justice, The American Way, Mom, Apple Pie, Baseball, Hot Dogs, The Seventh Inning Stretch, Dime Beer Night, Friday Night High School Football, Cheerleaders, Muscle Cars, Guns and The Constitution
[actually I settled a case on the day of trial
] I left the court house and went looking for a local coin shop.
Found one and spent a few minutes browsing. The guy minding the shop told me he had retired from the CHP in the S.F. Bay Area and moved to the valley. He was not the owner of the B&M (who was absent) and he was minding the shop.
I asked to look at trays of Lincolns [I am looking to upgrade my Lincoln Dansco by replacing circulated 1909-1933 cents with MS examples]. The early Lincolns in the tray ranged from low grade circulated to MS Brown examples (which were major fugly, with marks, blotches, etc.). The prices on these early Lincolns were very inflated. I passed.
I saw a 1968 Mint Set in a Capital Holder. All of the coins had toned, with the nickels, dimes and quarters all having developed substantial amounts of vibrant blue peripheral toning that just blazed under the halogen lighting. These coins have some major eye appeal. So I ask the guy to look at the set. He pulls it out and gives it to me. I turn over the holder and on the back is a circular green sticker [not CAC] made of paper that says "No S Dime".
I pause and think "What.......?" and look at each of the coins in the set with a 10x loupe. No chance in hades that the set is a proof set [duh it has 10 coins (3 cents, P, D & S; 2 nickels, D & S; 2 dimes, P & D; 2 quarters, P & D; and 1 half, D) that come in a 1968 mint set instead of the 5 coins that come in a 1968 proof set]. Further, the coins look nothing like proofs, since the fields and devices look the same (circulation strike) and have dings and marks on them.
So I ask the guy about the green sticker and the "No S dime". He tells me that the set just came in the shop, that the owner has not looked at it and priced it yet (so he could not quote a price to me, thus the set is not for sale) and that if the dime lacking an S mintmark is a proof, the set would be worth $12,000.00. I told him that if the dime was in fact a No S proof it would be worth a lot of money, however in my opinion is it just a 1968 Philly circulation strike dime and that 1968 Philly dimes have no mint mark. He did not respond and just looked at me with a blank expression.
Due solely to the amazing toning I would have bought the set for $10.00 or maybe even $15.00. Forumites who are clad mint set fans would probably have considered a purchase of this set to warrant a "You Suck" just because of the amazing blue toning.
Alas, I did not stick around for the owner to show up and give me a $12,000.00 price quote for a No S Proof dime that is only a circulation strike taken from a Mint Set.
After striking yet another masterful blow in court for Truth, Justice, The American Way, Mom, Apple Pie, Baseball, Hot Dogs, The Seventh Inning Stretch, Dime Beer Night, Friday Night High School Football, Cheerleaders, Muscle Cars, Guns and The Constitution
[actually I settled a case on the day of trial] I left the court house and went looking for a local coin shop.Found one and spent a few minutes browsing. The guy minding the shop told me he had retired from the CHP in the S.F. Bay Area and moved to the valley. He was not the owner of the B&M (who was absent) and he was minding the shop.
I asked to look at trays of Lincolns [I am looking to upgrade my Lincoln Dansco by replacing circulated 1909-1933 cents with MS examples]. The early Lincolns in the tray ranged from low grade circulated to MS Brown examples (which were major fugly, with marks, blotches, etc.). The prices on these early Lincolns were very inflated. I passed.
I saw a 1968 Mint Set in a Capital Holder. All of the coins had toned, with the nickels, dimes and quarters all having developed substantial amounts of vibrant blue peripheral toning that just blazed under the halogen lighting. These coins have some major eye appeal. So I ask the guy to look at the set. He pulls it out and gives it to me. I turn over the holder and on the back is a circular green sticker [not CAC] made of paper that says "No S Dime".
I pause and think "What.......?" and look at each of the coins in the set with a 10x loupe. No chance in hades that the set is a proof set [duh it has 10 coins (3 cents, P, D & S; 2 nickels, D & S; 2 dimes, P & D; 2 quarters, P & D; and 1 half, D) that come in a 1968 mint set instead of the 5 coins that come in a 1968 proof set]. Further, the coins look nothing like proofs, since the fields and devices look the same (circulation strike) and have dings and marks on them.
So I ask the guy about the green sticker and the "No S dime". He tells me that the set just came in the shop, that the owner has not looked at it and priced it yet (so he could not quote a price to me, thus the set is not for sale) and that if the dime lacking an S mintmark is a proof, the set would be worth $12,000.00. I told him that if the dime was in fact a No S proof it would be worth a lot of money, however in my opinion is it just a 1968 Philly circulation strike dime and that 1968 Philly dimes have no mint mark. He did not respond and just looked at me with a blank expression.
Due solely to the amazing toning I would have bought the set for $10.00 or maybe even $15.00. Forumites who are clad mint set fans would probably have considered a purchase of this set to warrant a "You Suck" just because of the amazing blue toning.
Alas, I did not stick around for the owner to show up and give me a $12,000.00 price quote for a No S Proof dime that is only a circulation strike taken from a Mint Set.
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Waitaminit. *click*. It was just a breaker. I'm all good now.
but have nevr heard of a '68 No-S PR being put in a mint set.
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<< <i>After striking yet another masterful blow in court for Truth, Justice, The American Way, Mom, Apple Pie, Baseball, Hot Dogs, The Seventh Inning Stretch, Dime Beer Night, Friday Night High School Football, Cheerleaders, Muscle Cars, Guns and The Constitution... >>
That's all well and good, but until you include making a stand for abolition of the designated hitter rule and astroturf, I'm afraid there's still more to do...
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
There was "no-S" dime there.
<< <i>I wonder what they bought it for >>
Maybe nine dollars from a widow thinking that they would make a killing.
Or...
Maybe $8000 from a scammer thinking they were being fair.
It would be interesting to hear, "the rest of the story..."
but have nevr heard of a '68 No-S PR being put in a mint set. >>
Those two dimes might have different backs. A new reverse was first used on 1968 dimes S mint only that year.