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Banks Rookie...What the Hell???

shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭
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Where do I begin?

VG 8.5
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."

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    wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

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    mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    What's the problem here? Centering on the Banks card is always very good. That looks like an undergraded VG 9.
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    VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭
    Obviously an idiot - the cert # doesn't match any Ernie Banks cards either.
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    Aaah, the rounded corner version, very rare.
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    pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    "Almost unheard of in this series."
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    But how can we not have faith in this auction?

    As per the sellers profile pic..

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    PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    I gotta give that card almost a Gem Very Good 10. I'd like to bid. As a VG 8.5 the pop has got to be very low (hence the $2000 value).
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    swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    pretty affordable still...


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    bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    This is my favorite line.....
    And will be handed to the winning Bidder with Confidence

    Doesnt he mean, STICK IT TO THE WINNING BIDDER WITH CONFIDENCE!!!!!!
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    nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭


    << <i>I gotta give that card almost a Gem Very Good 10. I'd like to bid. As a VG 8.5 the pop has got to be very low (hence the $2000 value). >>



    Say what???





    << <i>pretty affordable still... >>



    Huh???





    << <i>This is my favorite line.....
    And will be handed to the winning Bidder with Confidence

    Doesnt he mean, STICK IT TO THE WINNING BIDDER WITH CONFIDENCE!!!!!! >>



    Thank you image ... but not speaking as the winning bidder, lol.
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    Bottom9thBottom9th Posts: 2,695 ✭✭
    That's gotta be poofed soon...
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    bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I believe the card probably is authentic though...I would like to have it for 99 cents just to get it in an honest holder....
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    AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,363 ✭✭✭✭
    loooks like a nice card.
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    BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Fortunately whomever is making these fake flips is using the modern 90 degree angled corners in the flip frame, but the dated numbering system with the writen condition and numerical grade on the same line.

    For the old numbering system, the flips had the rounded corners.
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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    when did they implement the 15-point grading system? image
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Now that person is REAL STUPID! Wouldn't you at least use a Cert # that was for a BANKS card? LOL

    ITEM INFORMATION
    Cert Verification #: 90522525
    Year: 1963
    Brand: TOPPS
    Card Number: 486
    Player: RAY SADECKI
    Variety:
    Grade: NEAR MINT 7
    STAY HEALTHY!

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    MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    I contacted the person and let him know. THis is what he said.

    I will do sorry for the confusion. I am new to this card selling stuff. I just found that I had this card adn a friend took it to get it graded for me and so i listed it when he brought it back. I will take it myself and get it graded. I have never ended an auction before will i be penalized for ending auction. Or should I just let every bidder know when they bid and relist it correctly at the end? What would you advise?
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    larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭
    I hope a few others report this. We are the Ebay police!
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    stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    On Apr-03-09 at 07:05:49 PDT, seller added the following information:


    Revised Listing upon notified correction

    Very much sought after !

    1954 Ernest Banks Rookie Card

    by Topps

    This Card has has a PSA grade of 8.5 NM-MT Almost unheard of in this series.

    *There was a mistake on the label that has been corrected. Picture will be available this afternoon upon request. Once new label is put into place by PSA. *

    Thank you for pointing this out and helping the process of this sell. I'm happy to know i could revise my listing to let everyone know of this.

    This is a Spectacular card and it was being robbed of it's glory!

    Description of Card you will receive is PSA grade 8.5 NM-MT its spec# is 0101540940.

    It is perfectly centered top/bottom as well as left/right positioning.

    More cards from this 1954 Topps group are available upon request but not set up on auction yet. I want to offer them to the winning bidder if he/she wishes to have them.

    Ernie Banks has hit 512 Home runs and is a hall of fame player. This card holds a value of almost $2,000 USD. And will be handed to the winning Bidder with Confidence.



    Thanks and good luck bidding

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    MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭
    Check out the addition to his listing - added today...the guy must know Joe O personally to get such fast service on a "mechanical error". I know when I have to send a card back to PSA for reholdering or mislabel it takes about a month.

    ---

    *There was a mistake on the label that has been corrected. Picture will be available this afternoon upon request. Once new label is put into place by PSA. *
    Thank you for pointing this out and helping the process of this sell. I'm happy to know i could revise my listing to let everyone know of this.

    ---

    And, of course this comment in his feedback (almost 2 years old) makes me feel MUCH better about this whole scam.

    "This Seller has Great unheard of Communication!!! Very Godly Man!! Thankyou Sir!"
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    MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    From the scan I see that card doesn't seem to be an 8.5, The corners look a bit rough.
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    MphilkingMphilking Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
    The Cert number on the Banks is 1963 Ray Sadecki.




    Banks Cert
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    bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    I sent the seller a message and this is what I got back in reply.



    << <i>Dear Brian,
    the item has been revised with correct information on this card. PSA grader John silkens made the mistake and he will be getting me a new label/cardholder this afternoon. The card was graded successfully but labeled incorrectly. You are wrong by saying that is a 1963 ray sadeki card . if you think that you must be blind. read the revised version of the listing and that is what you will receive by winning the auction.

    - jhandley23 >>

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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    SOMEONE TELL THE SELLER THAT A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE
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    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    re the horse pic... WTF!
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    pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>re the horse pic... WTF! >>



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    digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>Thunderhorse! >>



    I've only watched 1 or 2 episodes of Metalocalypse, and knew immediatly that this was probably a Dethklok song.
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    PoppaJPoppaJ Posts: 2,818 ✭


    << <i>re the horse pic... WTF! >>



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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Return policy details:

    If item does not meet the listing details it can be refunded minus a restocking fee.If merchandise is damaged upon return it will be refundable.


    lol


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    bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    Update: I just got this reply this morning in my ebay.
    Dear brian,

    The picture does not do this card justice. And just to let you know I have turned you in to Ebay for slander. That is not allowed here and you will be contacted soon. Just to let you know I just got everything taken care of with this card. It was a PSA mistake and the card just sold to a man in my town for $920.00. Thank You for being ignorant towards the item and I pray that Ebay gets one more of you jerks off their system. You need to also make the decision on your eternity. Christians dont speak like that.

    - jhandley23




    << <i>I sent the seller a message and this is what I got back in reply.



    << <i>Dear Brian,
    the item has been revised with correct information on this card. PSA grader John silkens made the mistake and he will be getting me a new label/cardholder this afternoon. The card was graded successfully but labeled incorrectly. You are wrong by saying that is a 1963 ray sadeki card . if you think that you must be blind. read the revised version of the listing and that is what you will receive by winning the auction.

    - jhandley23 >>

    >>




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    WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Just another ebay slimeball scammer.

    Steve
    Good for you.
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    PowderedH2OPowderedH2O Posts: 2,443 ✭✭
    Yeah Brian - what's your problem?!?!? I mean, just because the holder has Ray Sadecki's cert number and has a grade of 8.5 VG and has numbers that look like they've been photoshopped and are all lopsided couldn't possibly mean that guy is dishonest. Seriously!!! He has a feedback rating of 23. You don't get a feedback rating of 23 without being a top-notch on-the-level ebay seller. I am just flabbergasted that you would imply that this fellow could be a scammer. Fortunately, someone in his hometown spotted the good deal and was able to steal that card for $920. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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    bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yeah Brian - what's your problem?!?!? I mean, just because the holder has Ray Sadecki's cert number and has a grade of 8.5 VG and has numbers that look like they've been photoshopped and are all lopsided couldn't possibly mean that guy is dishonest. Seriously!!! He has a feedback rating of 23. You don't get a feedback rating of 23 without being a top-notch on-the-level ebay seller. I am just flabbergasted that you would imply that this fellow could be a scammer. Fortunately, someone in his hometown spotted the good deal and was able to steal that card for $920. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    ;-) >>

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    digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>And just to let you know I have turned you in to Ebay for slander. That is not allowed here and you will be contacted soon. >>



    Oh oh, you're gonna get it now!
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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    there's a lot to like about Brian these days, nice sigline. image
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    F1ferrariF1ferrari Posts: 583


    << <i>

    << <i>And just to let you know I have turned you in to Ebay for slander. That is not allowed here and you will be contacted soon. >>



    Oh oh, you're gonna get it now! >>



    You'll be on double-secret probation before you know it!!
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    70chip70chip Posts: 797
    Brian, I have no choice but to ground you and take away your TV privileges, You are a mean person.

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    thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Update: I just got this reply this morning in my ebay.
    Dear brian,

    The picture does not do this card justice. And just to let you know I have turned you in to Ebay for slander. That is not allowed here and you will be contacted soon. Just to let you know I just got everything taken care of with this card. It was a PSA mistake and the card just sold to a man in my town for $920.00. Thank You for being ignorant towards the item and I pray that Ebay gets one more of you jerks off their system. You need to also make the decision on your eternity. Christians dont speak like that.

    - jhandley23




    << <i>I sent the seller a message and this is what I got back in reply.



    << <i>Dear Brian,
    the item has been revised with correct information on this card. PSA grader John silkens made the mistake and he will be getting me a new label/cardholder this afternoon. The card was graded successfully but labeled incorrectly. You are wrong by saying that is a 1963 ray sadeki card . if you think that you must be blind. read the revised version of the listing and that is what you will receive by winning the auction.

    - jhandley23 >>

    >>

    >>



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    bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭


    << <i>there's a lot to like about Brian these days, nice sigline. image >>



    Thanks, when I get a chance one day, I will make myself a very nice animated gif banner...I think I will be almost as popular as Lawnmowerman....Well not that popular, but people will like my sig. image
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    MrVintageMrVintage Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭
    That Banks auction has to be one of the true classics I have seen on Ebay.
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    bman90278bman90278 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭
    I just sent the seller a reply to his mean response he sent me. I will be sure to share his response if I get one back. I did tell him I will pray for him.

    brian
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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭✭
    Look familiar?:

    Real Banks 3.5
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
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    mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭
    Yep, same card. Looking at the fake auction, you can actually see a little distortion around the areas on the flip that has been changed. I dont think its a fake flip, just one that has been photoshopped from the original auction.

    Also, did you ever get a reply to your email?
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