Huge 50's wax find in Cranbury NJ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edmundfitzgerald · March 15, 2009 5:39AM

Oh my God. Wait until this hits the news. No big names involved. Just an old store owner in a remote part of New Jersey
walked into a little card show with one box of 1952, 1955, and 1956 topps baseball. He had nine other boxes of each year outside.

The card show host said Orson Wellington, an 81 year old guy came to inquire about their worth. He had no idea until
an honest dealer told him he was sitting on a huge fortune. The dealer walked with Orson to his car where his son was
sitting in the car with the other 27 boxes of fresh, clean boxes.

Not sure where this is going, but Orson Wellington will possibly be supplying this hobby with some great stuff in the near future.

Stay tuned.

philipjgolden · March 15, 2009 5:58AM

woah. that will be some expensive wax!

Gonblott · March 15, 2009 6:01AM

THERE IS GOLD IN NEW JERSEY!

QUICK LETS GO

Wow..... this sounds cool.....I want to hear more!

JackWESQ · March 15, 2009 6:15AM

If it is true (and I hope it is), just more evidence that raw vintage/unopened packs are out there. Awesome indeed.

/s/ JackWESQ

Dboneesq · March 15, 2009 6:23AM

WOW WHOA Haven't we all had a dream about making such a find? Thanks goodness there was an honest dealer there. Imagine someone telling him it was worth $100,000.00? The guy probably would have been psyched and maybe sold it for that price!

Can't wait to see what happens with this. If those are HI # 52's imagine the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the son is going to inherit????????????????????????? (Still going to be millions no matter what!)

larryallen73 · March 15, 2009 6:27AM

Is this an early April Fool's joke? If not, very cool.

Allen · March 15, 2009 6:44AM

Source?

Stone193 · March 15, 2009 7:11AM

Wow - cool - everytime ya think there's no more out there? Stuff like his crops up.

I'm looking forward to pics.

It just makes me want to put these up even tho everyone's seen them.

Thanx for sharing.
mike

Karb · March 15, 2009 7:23AM

If true, that is totally awesome!! I have dreams about these kind of finds and yet one old man gets the mother load. Just awesome.

Gonblott · March 15, 2009 7:23AM

Never seen the second picture before, thanks for sharing Stone.

jradke4 · March 15, 2009 7:30AM

just think you buy one of those packs and crack it...
your hands shaking as you go through the cards

...spot a mantle

...corners look geat and centering looks good from the back
...you flip it over
....and what do you find
....the gum firmly attached to the micks front side.....

sfmays24 · March 15, 2009 7:32AM

I can't wait for Felicia's new '50's Rip thread... she's probably on her way to NJ as I write.

Mike

mikeschmidt · March 15, 2009 7:36AM

Can't wait to hear more about this.

Bosox1976 · March 15, 2009 8:46AM

Wonder what happened to the 53's & 54's - maybe he sold them out? Probably wishes he spent the $24 to squirrel them away too!

jomer · March 15, 2009 9:09AM

Once Again .........

Source ???????????

billwaltonsbeard · March 15, 2009 9:16AM

Where was Alan Rosen on that day?? Too bad he wasn't the dealer involved.

I can see him..casually going through the boxes, throwing them around, saying "VG-EX, VG-EX, VG-EX"

stevek · March 15, 2009 9:58AM

<<< Orson Wellington >>>

Any relation to Orson Welles

Dboneesq · March 15, 2009 10:09AM

<< <<< Orson Wellington >>>

Any relation to Orson Welles >>

No, but a cousin to Beef Wellington and nephew of Wellington Mara.

heritage · March 15, 2009 10:16AM

MAN O MAN would that be cool!! We all dream of this.

WinPitcher · March 15, 2009 10:42AM

Stuff is out there, people who think we have graded most of the 50's vintage
are dead wrong. Much of the stuff may be lower quality but the stuff is out there.

We have not even scratched the surface yet.

Steve

fur72 · March 15, 2009 11:38AM

<< WOW WHOA Haven't we all had a dream about making such a find? Thanks goodness there was an honest dealer there. Imagine someone telling him it was worth $100,000.00? The guy probably would have been psyched and maybe sold it for that price!

Can't wait to see what happens with this. If those are HI # 52's imagine the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the son is going to inherit????????????????????????? (Still going to be millions no matter what!) >>

Dreams???? I need a time machine and a talk with some of the guys on the vintage coin thread that specialize in 1952 quarters.

Wait its too dangerous what if I run into Rube? Could change history forever. Might be a good thing though he might still be on this board.

ElToroLoco · March 15, 2009 11:59AM

Wow, this sounds like it could be one of the biggest finds the last 20 years. Unopened, "fresh" boxes????? There are probably auctioneers salivating from this. So far we have cases of 75 Topps Mini's coming down the pipe and possibly 50's unopened!! There needs to be an ESPN report on these or something! Props to his family for not taking the old man's stuff and pawning it!

IchiroDeported · March 15, 2009 12:52PM

source? newspaper? on tv?
how did you come of this info?

1960toppsguy · March 15, 2009 1:14PM

I can't imagine that would do much for the price of low pops for the set freaks as the market becomes more saturated.

lsutigers1973 · March 15, 2009 1:44PM

Judging by the person that started this thread, I have to call BS until I am given a source. I've been googling all night and haven't found anything about this.

RonBurgundy · March 15, 2009 1:51PM

What the good strong LSU Tiger said.

jzimmerman85 · March 15, 2009 1:51PM

you guys just got trolled so hard.

WinPitcher · March 15, 2009 2:30PM

I think it is prolly BS too, with that said stuff is out there.

Steve

RipublicaninMass · March 15, 2009 3:29PM

<< Stuff is out there, people who think we have graded most of the 50's vintage
are dead wrong. Much of the stuff may be lower quality but the stuff is out there.

We have not even scratched the surface yet.

Steve >>

Steve, every time you post this I have to disagree. Three of the largest collectors spotlighted have had their entire collections sold and it has barely made a bump in the hobby. Hull (for Boxing) and Nagy and Lionel carter we the authorities on old tobacco cards, their collections were probably a once in a lifetime achievement. Neither one "flooded" the hobby or crashed the market. Is there really 20 unopened cases of 55 topps in the world somewhere waiting to be discovered in some barn? I doubt we will even see the pops double in our lifetime. But hey we are entitled to our opinions.

How many people are hunting for this stuff now? These finds are maybe once a year at best, and forget antique shops, or grandpa's attic. I think Ron Burgundy has most of the ungraded hi-grade vintage! Even Fritch just has cases of 70's stuff locked away. I think less and less will be discovered as time creeps on.

edmundfitzgerald · March 15, 2009 7:58PM

I guess a few of you are too young to know the history of Orson Wellington and Cranbury NJ.
Stevek got it right.

mikeschmidt · March 15, 2009 9:31PM

I find this big would have undoubtedly been making the hobby circles, especially over the weekend of a big show. I would love for this to be true. But I'll stay on the sidelines until more information [if any] comes forward.

SoFLPhillyFan · March 15, 2009 10:29PM

<< Judging by the person that started this thread, I have to call BS until I am given a source. I've been googling all night and haven't found anything about this. >>

Exactly. It's a spoof.

This just in from the OP, which was not a spoof. Spelling is on the OP, sorry -

Red Sox get Texeira !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bman90278 · March 15, 2009 10:35PM

<< Judging by the person that started this thread, I have to call BS until I am given a source. I've been googling all night and haven't found anything about this. >>

WinPitcher · March 15, 2009 11:05PM

Ted

I never said anything about flooding the market, I simply said that 50's vintage cards are out there
and that we have not graded anything near all of it.

I did not say that it was out there in unopened form in warehouses, I implied it was mostly lower grade
and probably in collections.

I stand by my comments.

Steve

stevek · March 15, 2009 11:22PM

<< I guess a few of you are too young to know the history of Orson Wellington and Cranbury NJ.
Stevek got it right. >>

Actually the giveaway that it was a spoof was the "...walked with Orson to his car where his son..." - No woman would ever mate with someone named Orson.

Dboneesq · March 15, 2009 11:28PM

Quick Description: Martian Landing site in Orson Welles dramatization of H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds located off Cranbury Road in Grover's Mill, NJ.

billwaltonsbeard · March 15, 2009 11:33PM

So, the OP, what's this tool's deal? What satisfaction would a normal person get by making up stuff and posting it on a board?

Is he trying to come off as a lonely, attention starved moron? If so, he has succeeded.

lsutigers1973 · March 15, 2009 11:36PM

<< I did not say that it was out there in unopened form in warehouses, I implied it was mostly lower grade
and probably in collections. >>

I still hang on to the hope that there is one large barn or warehouse somewhere in the US in a small country town that contains cases of untouched vintage boxes in pristine condition. The second part of that fantasy includes me finding it and retiring.

aconte · March 15, 2009 11:39PM

<< So, the OP, what's this tool's deal? What satisfaction would a normal person get by making up stuff and posting it on a board? >>

<< Is he trying to come off as a lonely, attention starved moron? If so, he has succeeded >>

While I was fooled from the post, that is exactly what I thought after reading it was a spoof.

Keep forgetting that some guys here are just losers.

aconte

Dboneesq · March 15, 2009 11:40PM

<< I still hang on to the hope that there is one large barn or warehouse somewhere in the US in a small country town that contains cases of untouched vintage boxes in pristine condition. The second part of that fantasy includes me finding it and retiring. >>

At age 50 I still have not given up on that dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SidePocket · March 16, 2009 1:56AM

Cranbury is spelled Cranberry.

Dboneesq · March 16, 2009 1:58AM

<< Cranbury is spelled Cranberry. >>

Not when you are talking about the town in New Jersey!

Mickey71 · March 16, 2009 2:16AM

I know of a true story of a few cases of early 50's baseball wax. A former business associate (cards) bought a 1953 topps wax box that the packs were opened and put right back in the packs and they were of fabulous condition. They graded very well. Everyone will ask why doesn't the guy buy all the stuff? The answer is this- most people are not aggressive enough with their buying skills. I've watched numerous dealers let customers walk out of their store with good vintage stuff because the dealer offered them next to nothing for it; and we're talking Mantle, Clemente rookies, Koufax etc. in high grade. I would be calling the guy with the 50's cases every other day until he filed a harassment suit or he sold me the cards. Most card people are not confident enough in buying high end stuff. I've never considered the business associate a very good card guy. He's the type of dealer and there are a ton of them out there that has the same price on an VG-EX card and a NM-MT one. You have to cherry pick and find the good ones.

Stingray · March 16, 2009 2:18AM

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

rbdjr1 · March 16, 2009 2:21AM

The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

rd

PoppaJ · March 16, 2009 2:28AM

<< Wow - cool - everytime ya think there's no more out there? Stuff like his crops up.

I'm looking forward to pics.

It just makes me want to put these up even tho everyone's seen them.

Thanx for sharing.
mike >>

//////////////////////////

Hi Mike,

I know I'm getting old when I look at pics like those and can actually remember buying from similar stores when I was a kid.

A nickel back then was tough to come by though! I remember my mother opening her purse, pulling out a tiny change purse, reaching in and finding me a nickel and saying "here! just one!".

thanks for sharing

PoppaJ

stevek · March 16, 2009 2:36AM

No need to look at porn pics anymore on the internet - these pics are better.

stevek · March 16, 2009 2:39AM

What would I rather have...Maria Sharapova or the items in those pics?

Decisions, Decisions.....

rbdjr1 · March 16, 2009 2:53AM

Oh my! A bag of dried wax beans were worth a lot more than a puny 1953 wax pack!

Wow! ask mom for a penny more and you could get 8 baseball wax packs (40 cents) for the price of a bag of beans (39 cents)!

edit: in 1953!

rd

matthewbschultz83 · March 16, 2009 3:06AM

<< "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." >>

I thought the joke was what do a Tennessee divorce and a Texas tornado have in common??

Either way someone's going to lose a trailer.

nam812 · March 16, 2009 3:12AM

Here is a color version that one of the members here (Pomobileclk I think) did a while back.

Huge 50's wax find in Cranbury NJ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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