Poppage - Wasn't worth the wait - UPDATE! Joe called back

lsutigers1973 · March 6, 2009 10:16AM

First 5 cards belong to another forum user.

I tried to get in contact with Joe but I guess I called too late to get him on a Friday. I want to know if the grader that graded the 1981 Kelloggs cards knew what they were looking for. The cards subbed were from clean factory sealed sets and are pristine.

The 1981 Topps were the best of the best of a few stars and commons with low or zero pop PSA 10's and came from 2 clean cut card cases.

1 1 14864539 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1972 O-PEE-CHEE 314 LUIS APARICIO IN ACTION
2 1 14864540 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 322 NEIL ALLEN
3 1 14864541 MINT 9 1993 PINNACLE COOPERSTOWN 20 TONY GWYNN DUFEX
4 1 14864542 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 STUDIO 25 TONY GWYNN
5 1 14864543 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 2001 SP GAME BAT PIECE OF THE GAME TGw TONY GWYNN
6 1 14864544 NEAR MINT 7 1981 KELLOGG'S 3 REGGIE JACKSON
7 1 14864545 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 KELLOGG'S 40 FRED LYNN
8 1 14864546 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 45 RON GUIDRY
9 1 14864547 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 47 DAVE KINGMAN
10 1 14864548 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1981 KELLOGG'S 48 CARL YASTRZEMSKI
11 1 14864549 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 53 PAUL MOLITOR
12 1 14864550 NEAR MINT 7 1981 KELLOGG'S 56 BRUCE SUTTER
13 1 14864551 GEM MINT 10 1981 KELLOGG'S 57 ROBIN YOUNT Thanks for throwing me one bone, the rest are as clean as this 1
14 1 14864552 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 57 ROBIN YOUNT
15 1 14864553 NEAR MINT 7 1981 KELLOGG'S 58 STEVE STONE
16 1 14864554 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 62 BRUCE BOCHTE
17 1 14864555 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 63 PETE ROSE
18 1 14864556 MINT 9 1981 KELLOGG'S 63 PETE ROSE
19 1 14864557 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 KELLOGG'S 65 JOHNNY BENCH
20 1 14864558 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 32 KEN OBERKFELL Still no 10's
21 1 14864559 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1981 TOPPS 32 KEN OBERKFELL
22 1 14864560 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 32 KEN OBERKFELL
23 1 14864561 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 139 OSCAR GAMBLE
24 1 14864562 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 142 JACKSON TODD
25 1 14864563 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 308 RICK MANNING Still no 10's
26 1 14864564 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 374 TOM HUTTON
27 1 14864565 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 392 LANCE PARRISH
28 1 14864566 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 400 REGGIE JACKSON Knew these would be 8's
29 1 14864567 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 400 REGGIE JACKSON
30 1 14864568 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 417 DAN SCHATZEDER
31 1 14864569 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 430 JIM BIBBY
32 1 14864570 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 530 STEVE GARVEY How about one bone on any of these 3
33 1 14864571 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 530 STEVE GARVEY
34 1 14864572 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 530 STEVE GARVEY
35 1 14864573 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 541 STEVE SWISHER
36 1 14864574 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 561 DENNIS LITTEJOHN Still no 10's
37 1 14864575 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 568 DAVE REVERING
38 1 14864576 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 605 DON SUTTON Apperantly one of the tougher cards in the set
39 1 14864577 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 605 DON SUTTON
40 1 14864578 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 612 DUANE KUIPER
41 1 14864579 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 631 RON JACKSON
42 1 14864580 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 703 ALVIS WOODS
43 1 14864581 GEM MINT 10 1984 DONRUSS 14 BOB HORNER DIAMOND KINGS-STEEL
44 1 14864582 MINT 9 1984 DONRUSS 244 RON KITTLE
45 1 14864583 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 DONRUSS 334 WAYNE KRENCHICKI
46 1 14864584 GEM MINT 10 1984 DONRUSS 347 ANDRE ROBERTSON
47 1 14864585 GEM MINT 10 1984 DONRUSS 374 GREG PRYOR
48 1 14864586 MINT 9 1984 DONRUSS 597 LUIS SANCHEZ
49 1 14864587 MINT 9 1984 DONRUSS 606 GLENN HOFFMAN
50 1 14864588 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 TOPPS ALL-STAR GLOSSY SET OF 22 4 GEORGE BRETT
51 1 14864589 MINT 9 1986 O-PEE-CHEE 104 RICH GOSSAGE These 4 were the cleanest and best centered from 6 Dacardworld boxes
52 1 14864590 MINT 9 1986 O-PEE-CHEE 267 PAUL MOLITOR
53 1 14864591 MINT 9 1986 O-PEE-CHEE 290 CARLTON FISK
54 1 14864592 MINT 9 1986 O-PEE-CHEE 340 CAL RIPKEN JR.
55 1 14864593 GEM MINT 10 1987 DONRUSS 228 RICKEY HENDERSON
56 1 14864594 MINT 9 1987 DONRUSS 247 CARLTON FISK Subbed for Mike. Sorry Mike
57 1 14864595 MINT 9 1987 DONRUSS 458 ANDRE DAWSON
58 1 14864596 MINT 9 1987 DONRUSS 492 BARRY LARKIN
59 1 14864597 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP ROOKIE EDITION 80 ALEX RODRIGUEZ
60 1 14864598 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP ROOKIE EDITION 116 ALEX GORDON
61 1 14864599 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP ROOKIE EDITION 166 TIM LINCECUM 1995 SP ROOKIE DESIGN
62 1 14864600 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP ROOKIE EDITION 199 RYAN BRAUN 1993 SP ROOKIE DESIGN
63 1 14864601 GEM MINT 10 2008 UPPER DECK STARQUEST SQ-33 ALEX RODRIGUEZ COMMON
64 1 14864602 GEM MINT 10 2008 UPPER DECK STARQUEST SQ-32 ALBERT PUJOLS COMMON
65 1 14864603 MINT 9 2008 TOPPS HERITAGE T205 MINI HTCP5 ALEX RODRIGUEZ
66 1 14864604 GEM MINT 10 1983 TOPPS 163 CAL RIPKEN JR. $2 flea market purchase
67 1 14864605 MINT 9 1984 DONRUSS 60 NOLAN RYAN Another $2 flea market purchase
68 1 14864606 GEM MINT 10 1989 UPPER DECK 774 NOLAN RYAN From free pack from BobS
69 1 14864607 MINT 9 1994 BOWMAN'S BEST 31 PAUL O'NEILL RED REFRACTOR Subbed for MBMiller, POP 2 none higher

Clemaz · March 6, 2009 10:20AM

Nice flea market finds

VitoCo1972 · March 6, 2009 10:26AM

I think what this sub proves to me a s a player collector is this...And by the way, thanks for subbing that 87 Fisk Bill...

If you collect a player that started his career after 1970, your best best for getting a high grade set is this

1) Patience - be prepared to be patient

2) Find one raw card example that you think is a 10 - especially if it's low pop

3) sub that card

4) when it comes back a 9...add it to your set

5) wait two years until a bunch of 10's come around

6) dump your 9 for $3 and buy a 10 for $12-$15.

Yes, you're patient, but you're only ending up spending $20 in the ultimate 10 you get...plus you can add placeholder cards to your set until some other idiot subs 20 1987 Donruss Carlton Fisk's in hopes of getting through that glass ceiling.

daddymc · March 6, 2009 10:28AM

Ouch. At least it got better towards the bottom:

<< <i>
61 1 14864599 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP ROOKIE EDITION 166 TIM LINCECUM 1995 SP ROOKIE DESIGN
62 1 14864600 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP ROOKIE EDITION 199 RYAN BRAUN 1993 SP ROOKIE DESIGN
63 1 14864601 GEM MINT 10 2008 UPPER DECK STARQUEST SQ-33 ALEX RODRIGUEZ COMMON
64 1 14864602 GEM MINT 10 2008 UPPER DECK STARQUEST SQ-32 ALBERT PUJOLS COMMON
>>

The SP rookie edition foil cards are hard to find in decent condition and every UD Starquest I've pulled from a pack has been closer to a 7 or 8 than a 10.

mdkuom · March 6, 2009 10:30AM

The top five cards are mine. A few thoughts:
1) pulled from a pack from BBCE sometime last year. was hoping for a 9 but I'm not surprised
2) also pulled from a BBCE pack. I'm not sure how this didn't come back as at least a 9
3) bought raw on ebay. a nice upgrade for my 8. a very tough card
4) I needed this card for my Gwynn basic set. I knew it wouldn't grade that high but was hoping the grader might be blind.
5) another Gwynn for my set. pulled from a pack back on '01. now a pop 1 none higher

rube26105 · March 6, 2009 10:32AM

well, look at it this way bill, at least ya didnt get a 1990 griffey psa 3, i might put it on ebay for a 1,000, 3rd worst card ever graded

haaaaaaaaaaaa we need a kneee slappin icon, i tell ya what bill , if my next 150= come back ss bad as the 1st jan 175 sub, i aint even gonna tell nobody

MBMiller25 · March 6, 2009 10:33AM

Bill, Thanks for thinking of me on that Paul O'Neill Bowman's Best Refractor.

IchiroDeported · March 6, 2009 10:34AM

i KNEW you would get screwed on the 81's. esp. the Reggies. sigh.

lsutigers1973 · March 6, 2009 10:36AM

I'm actually pretty happy with everything below the 1981 Topps. The 83 Ripken is sweet especially for $2 plus grading fees. The 2007 SP Rookie Edition are very condition sensitive and subject to flaking and scratches. I think I will take 10's on all the ones I subbed.

Bosox1976 · March 6, 2009 10:45AM

I hope everybody is buying up PSA 10 1981 Topps on ebay, because if you follow the pops on this board you know how tough they really are.

How much for the PSA 7 Kelloggs Reggie

rube26105 · March 6, 2009 10:53AM

well, i just said, i wasnt gonna show ya my second sub if it sucked, it just popped , it sucked

that sucks

OAKESY25 · March 6, 2009 10:55AM

I still got nothing this week... I just chcked em.. and the system paused on my 3rd and last sub..
but to no avail

nam812 · March 6, 2009 10:56AM

Got two im still waiting on - 1/23 and 1/28.

RonBurgundy · March 6, 2009 10:57AM

Wish those would've turned out better for you.

Regarding 81's, Mike is right. I'm not much into post 80 stuff but I have a ton of 81's laying around here and just from looking at them I can tell that 10's are few and far between.

RB

lsutigers1973 · March 6, 2009 11:03AM

Joe called me back and said he would review the Kelloggs cards free of charge. I am thinking the grader that had them did not fully understand how to grade 3-D cards that are perforated.

Boopotts · March 6, 2009 12:24PM

Why are you complaining? It looks like you got the bone on all three of those Garveys.

lsutigers1973 · March 6, 2009 12:35PM

<< <i>Why are you complaining? It looks like you got the bone on all three of those Garveys. >>

Guy, I believe you and I discussed those 81 Kelloggs cards a while back. Those are the ones that really PO'd me. I can accept the 81 Topps since they are apperantly held to higher standards than other 1980's Topps cards.

Boopotts · March 6, 2009 12:39PM

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<< <i>Why are you complaining? It looks like you got the bone on all three of those Garveys. >>

Guy, I believe you and I discussed those 81 Kelloggs cards a while back. Those are the ones that really PO'd me. I can accept the 81 Topps since they are apperantly held to higher standards than other 1980's Topps cards. >>

I think this is a miscommunication. Up here in the Great White North the phrase 'got the bone' means something along the lines of.. well... hey, remember that sweet movie Deliverance?

rube26105 · March 6, 2009 1:05PM

<hey, remember that sweet movie Deliverance?>

squeal like a pig!!! that was the 1st movie al bundy was in, he was a deputy-i never noticed it till the other night,
hey its al in 1972!!!!!!!!!

CrimsonTider · March 6, 2009 1:23PM

You sure do have purtie lips

ldferg · March 6, 2009 1:37PM

you definitely had a nice run of garveys on your case. i don't think any of mine would have yielded above an 8. i've still not sent in many more of mine from the cut case. these look gem under a loupe. not really sure what they're looking for on these. getting one 10 out of 30+ other cards is absurd.

mmsportscards · March 6, 2009 5:26PM

lsu

the thing with the 81 kelloggs is darkness is from what ive been told in the past, they tend to have a shadow whatever that means lol....been there done it!!!!!!!

Poppage - Wasn't worth the wait - UPDATE! Joe called back

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