Tennessee, Sent PM, sorrry I couldn't be more help, but as I said this guy has been on my "Never Buy From Again" list so long I don't remember the details of what got him there. Just know he is there Forever as is anybody who makes that list!!!!!!!. Neil
Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
This is not directed at the OP but how can anyone even want to do business with this guy and his 98% ebay average and 60+ negs over the past 12 months?
I don't care what he has or how 'cheap' he has it for. Guys like that DO NOT get my money.
If buyers simply looked a little into a sellers reputation sales like this would be few and far between
<< <i>Kevin Burge has multiple selling accounts...most registered in and around Moorseville...he has a string of fake Topps/Bowman buyback autos going on right now...his new "thing." >>
he sells fakes too? i thoght he just had very bad customer service >>
Burge is a well known patch faker - there have been examples too numerous to count of cards that had plain swatches removed and then pull-of-a-lifetime patches inserted in their place. He's gotten good enough that the card itself isn't damaged, at least as far as an eBay scan can prove, but when the card says "game-used jersey swatch" and a six-color cut patch is there instead, it becomes a dead giveaway. Of course, there are far more uninformed/uneducated/naive buyers out there than there are ones who have a little knowledge or have been burned & learned.
This type of idiot is why I am buying and selling nothing on Ebay these days. 4 of my last 5 transactions had problems with condition, inaccurate descriptions or long delays in shipping.
Therefore, until Ebay cleans up(wishful thinking) I will attempt to buy from trusted, proven dealers and auction houses only, as well as our BST board, even if the cost is higher. While this strategy certainly isn't 100% safe, it beats using Ebay.
I hope it works out for Stephen, one of the great guys on this board.
just happened to me also.. bought card..paid him the 3.00 postage and there is postage due on this!! c'mon now.. gonna give him low rating and neutral i think
Ive come across his stuff that Im interested in many times. I cringe when I see the name. I know I'd just be a fool throwing away my money if I bid on his stuff. Pretty sad because if he was respectable, he would probably get 3x the business.
update:: after i emailed him telling him how crappy it was having postage due i figured i just wasted my time.. no biggie...just got an email from him telling me he will refund 3.00 postage when he gets home tomorrow, and to please not leave a negative... will keep you posted..
I just received an E-mail from him as well, hERE IT IS............................
I told my shipper to send a refund on it! I guess he did not. Send me your paypal address I will refund you for it as I can not find the card I think it got stolen from me at the national this year as I had it then before I went to the show posted on ebay and now that I have sold it I do not have it!!!!!!! Very sorry about this please please please do not leave negative feedback. I will get the money refunded to you in the next 2 days as my account is in a negative balance because this jackass did a charge back when he received the item for over $900! I am getting that fixed in the next couple days and I am also sorry about the postage due i will refund you for that as well! If there is something I have for sale let me know if you are interested in it as I will do my best to hook you up. Thanks for being understanding
I know this is probably a BS story, But he seems willing to refund me for the card, Shouldnt he know my Paypal address already ?? Should I take him up on getting another card from him or just wait and see if he comes through on the refund ?
Both of you should be nice until you get your refunds, and then bang him hard with negatives and 1's across the DSR board. Nothing this piece of garbage says should be taken as sincere....ever.
I am afraid he is going to try and string me along for the refund claiming that his Paypal balance is negative. But I am also afraid that if I try to trade another card for the one he owes me he may try to screw me another way.
I just sent him the direct link to the auction and said he should be able to refund from there. We will see what happens. How long should I give this chump to refund ?
I am afraid he is going to try and string me along for the refund claiming that his Paypal balance is negative. But I am also afraid that if I try to trade another card for the one he owes me he may try to screw me another way.
If you go that route, just make sure it's one of equal value so he doesn't have any reason to request more money. Absent that, he really can't screw you anymore. You've got plenty of time to file with paypal (45 days from dop I believe). He won't be able to stall his way out of that one. It sounds like he doesn't want any more negs, so he'll probably make good on it.
After viewing his site, I think he should let his gf run the show. Except for his parents, she was the only one on there who appeared to have any sense. At least he wouldn't be losing customers left and right for crappy customer service.
Everyone that has had the slightest of problems with this guy needs to neg him and leave him 1 star DSR's across the board. Scum like this needs to be dealt with harshly.
I think he has likely read this thread. He submits to PSA so he is likely a silent board member and it is also quite possible a friend or alley of his is a member. I like another board member have previously won something real cheap and he could not find it.
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Make sure to keep all communications through eBay directly. After multiple requests for either the card or a refund, I had to file a case with Paypal to get the $ back. All for a whopping $2 card.
<< <i>I just sent him the direct link to the auction and said he should be able to refund from there. We will see what happens. How long should I give this chump to refund ? >>
Unless the card in question (or any potential future card in question) is rare and he is the only seller that has it, why even bother with Shoeless Joe again? And even if that is the case, I will still be hesitate based upon what I have read in this thread. Sure he has 10,000+ positive feedback on ebay. But the number of neutral and negative feedbacks he has received is disturbing to say the least.
<< <i>Those pics are on his myspace page. You can see all of them if you click his pics section.
Personally, I don't know him, nor would I ever do business with him. And.... you are a tool for the comments you directed at me. >>
You know, I did it for that exact reason...cuz I know you cant take having your chops busted LOL I just enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself.
Why are you on his myspace page? Are you one of his friends there? >>
So... you openly admit you are just trying to troll, pick, and stir up a fight? I think you need to find something better to do with your time. You, sir, are the one who looks like a fool.
So... you openly admit you are just trying to troll, pick, and stir up a fight? I think you need to find something better to do with your time. You, sir, are the one who looks like a fool. >>
Im just having some fun STM, but unfortunately your panties have shrunk too tightly for you to see that! I have to admit that it is fun to see you get so worked up LOL
And wow, I was called "sir" and "fool" in the same sentence!
So... you openly admit you are just trying to troll, pick, and stir up a fight? I think you need to find something better to do with your time. You, sir, are the one who looks like a fool. >>
Im just having some fun STM, but unfortunately your panties have shrunk too tightly for you to see that! I have to admit that it is fun to see you get so worked up LOL
And wow, I was called "sir" and "fool" in the same sentence! >>
Is your life that empty, that you enjoy intentionally trying to tick someone off on a message board? If you tried this in person, I would probably flatten your nose, since I have been known to have a bad temper when provoked. But.. on a message board, all I can do is reply to your ignorant trolling.
I guess there always has to be people like you in all parts of life. Now, how about you cut out the ignorant trolling, and let's get back to what the thread was originally about?
Is your life that empty, that you enjoy intentionally trying to tick someone off on a message board? If you tried this in person, I would probably flatten your nose, since I have been known to have a bad temper when provoked. But.. on a message board, all I can do is reply to your ignorant trolling.
I guess there always has to be people like you in all parts of life. Now, how about you cut out the ignorant trolling, and let's get back to what the thread was originally about? >>
I must say your tough guy persona and threat of physical harm is quite funny! Im just at work right now with time to spare. As much as you would wish it, my life isnt empty at all. I actually have a great life and enjoy it. See, I know how to stay light and not get so worked up. Obviously, it must be your life so empty to continue responding and responding the way you do. Take your meds and lighten up!
Please other board members, note that STM is known to have a bad temper LOL
Ive discussed the topic as well as have a little fun with you. Cryin time is over! WAAAAAHHHHH
Is your life that empty, that you enjoy intentionally trying to tick someone off on a message board? If you tried this in person, I would probably flatten your nose, since I have been known to have a bad temper when provoked. But.. on a message board, all I can do is reply to your ignorant trolling.
I guess there always has to be people like you in all parts of life. Now, how about you cut out the ignorant trolling, and let's get back to what the thread was originally about? >>
I must say your tough guy persona and threat of physical harm is quite funny! Im just at work right now with time to spare. As much as you would wish it, my life isnt empty at all. I actually have a great life and enjoy it. See, I know how to stay light and not get so worked up. Obviously, it must be your life so empty to continue responding and responding the way you do. Take your meds and lighten up!
Please other board members, note that STM is known to have a bad temper LOL
Ive discussed the topic as well as have a little fun with you. Cryin time is over! WAAAAAHHHHH >>
Let's see, who started this? Oh, that's right, you did. Yep, I can have a bad temper, and have been known to act on it when provoked by people like yourself. I didn't threaten you, I said what I would probably do if you tried this garbage in person. I stand by that.
<< <i>Yeah, I dont buy the lost it excuse either. I read a lot of his feedback the last couple of days and it seems he lost or mis-placed a lot of stuff. >>
I think the guy's MO is to do this as much as possible and get away with whatever he can whenever he can. If you get 10 guys to give up on 50 bucks cuz it just isnt worth it, thats 500 dollars in his pocket for free. The guy is a scumbag any way you slice it.
I hope you are one of the rare ones who actually gets his refund...good luck!
yahnkee don't get overly worked up about Stan and his bad temper. You see his obsession with Albert Pujols has led him to using the same exact steroid cycle as Albert. Injecting all that juice and having no outlet for the roid rage has left him with a terrible temper. Every time you anger him on the boards he goes and beats his two cats "Albert" and "Pujols". He has mentioned before that he his at least as big and strong as Albert Pujols so be careful. I mean having your testicles ascend into your abdomen has got to leave you with a chip on your message board shoulder.
<< <i>yahnkee don't get overly worked up about Stan and his bad temper. You see his obsession with Albert Pujols has led him to using the same exact steroid cycle as Albert. Injecting all that juice and having no outlet for the roid rage has left him with a terrible temper. Every time you anger him on the boards he goes and beats his two cats "Albert" and "Pujols". He has mentioned before that he his at least as big and strong as Albert Pujols so be careful. I mean having your testicles ascend into your abdomen has got to leave you with a chip on your message board shoulder. >>
Ah.. people like you and some others I know on here have cluttered this board with nonsense to the point that there is nothing really card worthy on here anymore. If I want to see/read/enjoy good hobby knowledge, I am realizing more and more that this is certainly not the place for that anymore. I use to really enjoy coming here, but the interesting hobby content is becoming less and less. It's a shame, really. No wonder a lot of the decent folks are posting less and less(as they have told me via pm and in emails), and some are moving to other sites to learn/share/talk about the hobby, since this place is more like the Jerry Springer show these days, because some folks only come here for cheapshot gutter entertainment, at other's expense.
*Just to be clear, I am not speaking about everyone on here, because there are some good guys here. They know who they are.
Wow, I wish I had that ability to know everything about a person and what they stand for just by a message board. I wonder if that is an Albert Pujols trait too?
I just looked at my first page and every thread is Sports Cards & Memorabilia related. This particular thread had tons of great info, advice and myspace pictures. I think after a couple pages everything that could be answered was answered and we were all giving the same advice so I think this plane has landed and most passengers have left the airport so this is hardly a hijacking at all.
<< <i>Kevin Burge has multiple selling accounts...most registered in and around Moorseville...he has a string of fake Topps/Bowman buyback autos going on right now...his new "thing." >>
he sells fakes too? i thoght he just had very bad customer service >>
Scott, he's been slabbing some authentic, some questionable, signatures in one touches, and placing some cheesy holographic sticker seals on them and selling them as original Topps buy backs.
The question is, who will do anything about it? He probably knows that no one will because they arent being sold for thousands of dollars. It would have to be quite a large purchase for someone to take action. There are so many scammers that do fraudulent things and no one will ever do anything to shut them down because its not financially worth it and its not worth their time. A sad and unfortunate truth.
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Sent PM, sorrry I couldn't be more help, but as I said this guy has been on my "Never Buy From Again" list so long I don't remember the details of what got him there. Just know he is there Forever as is anybody who makes that list!!!!!!!.
Neil
<< <i>I didnt realize that Ed Norton was a scummy card dealer. >>
That's exactly what I thought when I looked at his pics!!
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<< <i>I didnt realize that Ed Norton was a scummy card dealer. >>
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It does look just about like his twin. >>
Has anyone seen the "Italian Job".
his 98% ebay average and 60+ negs over the past 12 months?
I don't care what he has or how 'cheap' he has it for. Guys like that DO NOT get my money.
If buyers simply looked a little into a sellers reputation sales like this would be few and far between
Steve
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<< <i>Kevin Burge has multiple selling accounts...most registered in and around Moorseville...he has a string of fake Topps/Bowman buyback autos going on right now...his new "thing." >>
he sells fakes too? i thoght he just had very bad customer service >>
Burge is a well known patch faker - there have been examples too numerous to count of cards that had plain swatches removed and then pull-of-a-lifetime patches inserted in their place. He's gotten good enough that the card itself isn't damaged, at least as far as an eBay scan can prove, but when the card says "game-used jersey swatch" and a six-color cut patch is there instead, it becomes a dead giveaway. Of course, there are far more uninformed/uneducated/naive buyers out there than there are ones who have a little knowledge or have been burned & learned.
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
Therefore, until Ebay cleans up(wishful thinking) I will attempt to buy from trusted, proven dealers and auction houses only, as well as our BST board, even if the cost is higher. While this strategy certainly isn't 100% safe, it beats using Ebay.
I hope it works out for Stephen, one of the great guys on this board.
Robert
Sadly guys like Burge ruin it for them.
Steve
<< <i>Those pics are on his myspace page. You can see all of them if you click his pics section.
Personally, I don't know him, nor would I ever do business with him. And.... you are a tool for the comments you directed at me. >>
You know, I did it for that exact reason...cuz I know you cant take having your chops busted LOL I just enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself.
Why are you on his myspace page? Are you one of his friends there?
of course save the packaging and all correspondence.
I told my shipper to send a refund on it! I guess he did not. Send me your paypal address I will refund you for it as I can not find the card I think it got stolen from me at the national this year as I had it then before I went to the show posted on ebay and now that I have sold it I do not have it!!!!!!! Very sorry about this please please please do not leave negative feedback. I will get the money refunded to you in the next 2 days as my account is in a negative balance because this jackass did a charge back when he received the item for over $900! I am getting that fixed in the next couple days and I am also sorry about the postage due i will refund you for that as well! If there is something I have for sale let me know if you are interested in it as I will do my best to hook you up. Thanks for being understanding
I know this is probably a BS story, But he seems willing to refund me for the card, Shouldnt he know my Paypal address already ??
Should I take him up on getting another card from him or just wait and see if he comes through on the refund ?
aconte
at least he replied.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
<< <i>give him a chance to REFUND.
at least he replied. >>
So the guy who thinks sellers charging $3 to ship are gouging buyers has a soft spot for this known piece of trash seller?
How long should I give this chump to refund ?
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<< <i>give him a chance to REFUND.
at least he replied. >>
So the guy who thinks sellers charging $3 to ship are gouging buyers has a soft spot for this known piece of trash seller? >>
all i'm saying is a lot of other sellers won't even bother responding.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
If you go that route, just make sure it's one of equal value so he doesn't have any reason to request more money. Absent that, he really can't screw you anymore. You've got plenty of time to file with paypal (45 days from dop I believe). He won't be able to stall his way out of that one. It sounds like he doesn't want any more negs, so he'll probably make good on it.
After viewing his site, I think he should let his gf run the show. Except for his parents, she was the only one on there who appeared to have any sense. At least he wouldn't be losing customers left and right for crappy customer service.
Barry, glad it sorta worked out for you. I think he may have had 2nd thoughts on the lowered sale.
Steve
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
"Molon Labe"
<< <i>I just sent him the direct link to the auction and said he should be able to refund from there. We will see what happens.
How long should I give this chump to refund ? >>
Unless the card in question (or any potential future card in question) is rare and he is the only seller that has it, why even bother with Shoeless Joe again? And even if that is the case, I will still be hesitate based upon what I have read in this thread. Sure he has 10,000+ positive feedback on ebay. But the number of neutral and negative feedbacks he has received is disturbing to say the least.
/s/ JackWESQ
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<< <i>Those pics are on his myspace page. You can see all of them if you click his pics section.
Personally, I don't know him, nor would I ever do business with him. And.... you are a tool for the comments you directed at me. >>
You know, I did it for that exact reason...cuz I know you cant take having your chops busted LOL I just enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself.
Why are you on his myspace page? Are you one of his friends there?
So... you openly admit you are just trying to troll, pick, and stir up a fight? I think you need to find something better to do with your time. You, sir, are the one who looks like a fool.
Eventually, he will rip somebody who will take the time to
close him down.
goofbay record
His history takes a LONG time to load.
NOT a pretty picture.
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Based on some of his FB left for sellers, ALL of his buying-IDs should
prolly be blocked, too.
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So... you openly admit you are just trying to troll, pick, and stir up a fight? I think you need to find something better to do with your time. You, sir, are the one who looks like a fool. >>
Im just having some fun STM, but unfortunately your panties have shrunk too tightly for you to see that! I have to admit that it is fun to see you get so worked up LOL
And wow, I was called "sir" and "fool" in the same sentence!
<< <i>Jim needs to swing that left elbow back and take a shot at that dorks twig and berries!
Ok, thats strange...a suit jacket with jeans, shirt, and a cap LOL
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So... you openly admit you are just trying to troll, pick, and stir up a fight? I think you need to find something better to do with your time. You, sir, are the one who looks like a fool. >>
Im just having some fun STM, but unfortunately your panties have shrunk too tightly for you to see that! I have to admit that it is fun to see you get so worked up LOL
And wow, I was called "sir" and "fool" in the same sentence!
Is your life that empty, that you enjoy intentionally trying to tick someone off on a message board? If you tried this in person, I would probably flatten your nose, since I have been known to have a bad temper when provoked. But.. on a message board, all I can do is reply to your ignorant trolling.
I guess there always has to be people like you in all parts of life. Now, how about you cut out the ignorant trolling, and let's get back to what the thread was originally about?
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Is your life that empty, that you enjoy intentionally trying to tick someone off on a message board? If you tried this in person, I would probably flatten your nose, since I have been known to have a bad temper when provoked. But.. on a message board, all I can do is reply to your ignorant trolling.
I guess there always has to be people like you in all parts of life. Now, how about you cut out the ignorant trolling, and let's get back to what the thread was originally about? >>
I must say your tough guy persona and threat of physical harm is quite funny! Im just at work right now with time to spare. As much as you would wish it, my life isnt empty at all. I actually have a great life and enjoy it. See, I know how to stay light and not get so worked up. Obviously, it must be your life so empty to continue responding and responding the way you do. Take your meds and lighten up!
Please other board members, note that STM is known to have a bad temper LOL
Ive discussed the topic as well as have a little fun with you. Cryin time is over! WAAAAAHHHHH
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<< <i>
Is your life that empty, that you enjoy intentionally trying to tick someone off on a message board? If you tried this in person, I would probably flatten your nose, since I have been known to have a bad temper when provoked. But.. on a message board, all I can do is reply to your ignorant trolling.
I guess there always has to be people like you in all parts of life. Now, how about you cut out the ignorant trolling, and let's get back to what the thread was originally about? >>
I must say your tough guy persona and threat of physical harm is quite funny! Im just at work right now with time to spare. As much as you would wish it, my life isnt empty at all. I actually have a great life and enjoy it. See, I know how to stay light and not get so worked up. Obviously, it must be your life so empty to continue responding and responding the way you do. Take your meds and lighten up!
Please other board members, note that STM is known to have a bad temper LOL
Ive discussed the topic as well as have a little fun with you. Cryin time is over! WAAAAAHHHHH
Let's see, who started this? Oh, that's right, you did. Yep, I can have a bad temper, and have been known to act on it when provoked by people like yourself. I didn't threaten you, I said what I would probably do if you tried this garbage in person. I stand by that.
<< <i>Yeah, I dont buy the lost it excuse either. I read a lot of his feedback the last couple of days and it seems he lost or mis-placed a lot of stuff. >>
I think the guy's MO is to do this as much as possible and get away with whatever he can whenever he can. If you get 10 guys to give up on 50 bucks cuz it just isnt worth it, thats 500 dollars in his pocket for free. The guy is a scumbag any way you slice it.
I hope you are one of the rare ones who actually gets his refund...good luck!
<< <i>yahnkee don't get overly worked up about Stan and his bad temper. You see his obsession with Albert Pujols has led him to using the same exact steroid cycle as Albert. Injecting all that juice and having no outlet for the roid rage has left him with a terrible temper. Every time you anger him on the boards he goes and beats his two cats "Albert" and "Pujols". He has mentioned before that he his at least as big and strong as Albert Pujols so be careful. I mean having your testicles ascend into your abdomen has got to leave you with a chip on your message board shoulder. >>
Ah.. people like you and some others I know on here have cluttered this board with nonsense to the point that there is nothing really card worthy on here anymore. If I want to see/read/enjoy good hobby knowledge, I am realizing more and more that this is certainly not the place for that anymore. I use to really enjoy coming here, but the interesting hobby content is becoming less and less. It's a shame, really. No wonder a lot of the decent folks are posting less and less(as they have told me via pm and in emails), and some are moving to other sites to learn/share/talk about the hobby, since this place is more like the Jerry Springer show these days, because some folks only come here for cheapshot gutter entertainment, at other's expense.
*Just to be clear, I am not speaking about everyone on here, because there are some good guys here. They know who they are.
<< <i>*Just to be clear, I am not speaking about everyone on here, because there are some good guys here. They know who they are. >>
Thanks.
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<< <i>Kevin Burge has multiple selling accounts...most registered in and around Moorseville...he has a string of fake Topps/Bowman buyback autos going on right now...his new "thing." >>
he sells fakes too? i thoght he just had very bad customer service >>
Scott, he's been slabbing some authentic, some questionable, signatures in one touches, and placing some cheesy holographic sticker seals on them and selling them as original Topps buy backs.