Is this anyway to ship a card?

matthewbschultz83 · February 19, 2009 2:38PM

I always ship my cards in a bubble mailer - doesn't matter if its one card or 10, a 1986 Topps Alan Knicely, or a 1/1

The left side of the envelope needed no help getting the card out. The card fell out when I grabbed the letter out of the mailbox. I realize that the post office probably did most of this....but why would anyone want to take that chance????

For God Sakes Chuck K travels better than this. A card attached to one of Chuck's errant second base throws travels better than this....

If I am out of line, feel free to call me out...

matthewbschultz83 · February 19, 2009 2:45PM

Especially when this was inside....

storm888 · February 19, 2009 2:55PM

If I was the buyer, that seller would NOT like the feedback I left.

Sellers need to charge enough for their items to fund SAFE delivery.

goose3 · February 19, 2009 2:59PM

<< If I was the buyer, that seller would NOT like the feedback I left.

Sellers need to charge enough for their items to fund SAFE delivery. >>

Problem is that it seems that more and more sellers DO charge enough to fund Safe delivery but refuse to actually use that money to do so.

I recently had some guy send me the wrong Bob Feller card.

I emailed him and told him. He tells me to send it back and that once he receives it he will send the other.

I paid 2.75 shipping for the wrong card which he spent 1.65 on or so with no Del. Con.

I tell him that I will do so and that he needs to reimburse my shipping.

I get the card about a week later with a smart arse note inside with the exact change taped to it. I politely blast him. I still haven't left feedback.

Why should I pay for HIS mistake?

matthewbschultz83 · February 19, 2009 3:01PM

It was a trade over on the Sports Card Forum (which I am a fairly new member). Just griping about it is not worth it. At the end of the day I got what I wanted, an 09 Topps Ruth SP in mint condition. I did make the seller aware. By the way I sent a Longoria Gold in a puffy bubble mailer.

A little forshadowing on my part...I asked mine to be sent in a bubble mailer, this was the response I got:
"sorry i only do bubble envelopes with bigger cards,i am putting it in a penny slip and a plastic case though"

storm888 · February 19, 2009 3:10PM

"Why should I pay for HIS mistake? "

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Obviously, buyers should NOT have to pay return-postage when the seller
makes a mistake.

storm888 · February 19, 2009 3:13PM

"A little forshadowing on my part...I asked mine to be sent in a bubble mailer, this was the response I got:
"sorry i only do bubble envelopes with bigger cards,i am putting it in a penny slip and a plastic case though""

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Bubble-mailers and cardboard are the STANDARD method
for safely mailing cards.

I don't care if it's one raw-card, a graded slab, of multiple cards.
The items need to be packed safely; bubble mailers and cardboard
are the accepted ways to do that.

nightcrawler · February 19, 2009 3:42PM

That stinks, I'd be annoyed for sure. But at least the card is undamaged.

I've recieved dozens of cards in regular envelopes over the years, they all came undamaged.

I'm not sure I'd leave a neg for that. But I only leave negs to scammers, period.

The idiots always get a break just for that alone..

killingdream · February 19, 2009 4:46PM

I would say that 3 out of 10 cards that I buy off of ebay sellers are sent in plain white envelopes. Somehow only one time did I get something damaged. This happened when some moron sent 5 55 Bowmans all together in the envelope. Of course I got it ripped and one of the cards had the corner torn off!! To me a envelope= 1 or 2 DSR stars at best no matter how nice the card is , unless the shipping price is less than $2. In that case I let it slide as long as the card arrives safely.

jlzinck · February 19, 2009 10:48PM

<< It was a trade over on the Sports Card Forum (which I am a fairly new member). Just griping about it is not worth it. At the end of the day I got what I wanted, an 09 Topps Ruth SP in mint condition. I did make the seller aware. By the way I sent a Longoria Gold in a puffy bubble mailer.

A little forshadowing on my part...I asked mine to be sent in a bubble mailer, this was the response I got:
"sorry i only do bubble envelopes with bigger cards,i am putting it in a penny slip and a plastic case though" >>

And there is the problem.

You probably dealt with a 13 year old who would rather have a "Sweet, MOJO" than a Babe Ruth and things a "PWE is good for 1 card"

PM me the name at SCF and I can tell you if I know anything about him/her.

WinPitcher · February 20, 2009 12:04AM

This was from a fellow forum member?

Wow.

Members here should know better.

Steve

nam812 · February 20, 2009 12:18AM

<< This was from a fellow forum member?

Wow.

Members here should know better.

Steve >>

Steve, if I am reading it correct it was a trade he made on a site called "Sports Card Forum" with another member of THAT forum.

Edited for spelling.

Prewarcaramelcollector · February 20, 2009 12:19AM

strange, there is no post office markings....how could it be delivered without the post office placing the location "stamp" thingy on the stamps? fishy

MeteoriteGuy · February 20, 2009 12:20AM

If the card is just worth a couple dollars...I would rather save a dollar or two and have it shipped in a PWE.

MeteoriteGuy · February 20, 2009 12:26AM

<< strange, there is no post office markings....how could it be delivered without the post office placing the location "stamp" thingy on the stamps? fishy >>

I guess you mean the postmark? Not that uncommon to get letters and packages without the stamps canceled.

Prewarcaramelcollector · February 20, 2009 12:54AM

<< 

<< strange, there is no post office markings....how could it be delivered without the post office placing the location "stamp" thingy on the stamps? fishy >>

I guess you mean the postmark? Not that uncommon to get letters and packages without the stamps canceled. >>

really? not that uncommon? i think it is RARE, especially in slow mail times like nowadays (recession)...

dont think they would allow people to reuse stamps in tough times....i know a PM (postmaster) and he says that is the biggest thing theuy watch--no reusable stamps!

lsutigers1973 · February 20, 2009 12:59AM

If a forum user is sending me one card that is just a hole filler for a set, I usually tell them to just stick it in a PWE. If I am sending one card for the same purpose, I always ask if a toploader and PWE is OK.

shouldabeena10 · February 20, 2009 1:04AM

I'm just surprised it made it to you with the adress all blacked out like that.

You must be a popular guy in Garland, TX.

stown · February 20, 2009 1:16AM

It is kinda odd the PWE was treated so harshly but they neglected to cancel the stamps...

matthewbschultz83 · February 20, 2009 1:23AM

<< If the card is just worth a couple dollars...I would rather save a dollar or two and have it shipped in a PWE. >>

I agree with that as well, but I wasn't sending the guy some 09 base common, it was a Longoria Gold. I checked completed ebay listings the Ruth was selling for anywhere between $17-$35. I think it should have been sent in a puffy.

I don't think the guy is a member over here. The trade was made on Sports Card Forum. And again it could be completely 100% a post office error. I just know that its a lot easier to have a PWE ripped in half (as this basically was) as opposed to a bubble mailer.

MeteoriteGuy · February 20, 2009 1:44AM

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<< If the card is just worth a couple dollars...I would rather save a dollar or two and have it shipped in a PWE. >>

I agree with that as well, but I wasn't sending the guy some 09 base common, it was a Longoria Gold. I checked completed ebay listings the Ruth was selling for anywhere between $17-$35. I think it should have been sent in a puffy. >>

Hard to argue that it should have been sent in a puffy....it should have. In fact, $20 is the line I usually draw to send in a box....they are decently cheap at the card shop, and are very cheap in bulk on ebay.

I just did my first trade over there....hope it goes better for me.

stown · February 20, 2009 2:13AM

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Quick question, it appears the PWE ripped in half and then taped back together.

If that's the case, I'm absolutely shocked that the enclosed card didn't have any damage AND the PO some how was able to repair it in that fashion. I mean, how did they tape it so the inside is visable on both sides yet still not completely transparent (ie see straight through where tears should be).

matthewbschultz83 · February 20, 2009 2:31AM

This is the response I got on SCF from the trader:

"WHOA!
i totally apologize about that,when i went to the post office and told the lady i wanted to just send it out she ended up putting some tracking something on the envelope and told me it would cost about $15 to send out so i corrected her and she said she couldnt take it off,and she gave me a the PWE to put it in,i am extremely sorry about that."

People are dumb sometimes....

MeteoriteGuy · February 20, 2009 2:39AM

So I guess it was a recycled envelope? That's strange.

stown · February 20, 2009 2:44AM

<< This is the response I got on SCF from the trader:

"WHOA!
i totally apologize about that,when i went to the post office and told the lady i wanted to just send it out she ended up putting some tracking something on the envelope and told me it would cost about $15 to send out so i corrected her and she said she couldnt take it off,and she gave me a the PWE to put it in,i am extremely sorry about that."

People are dumb sometimes.... >>

Huh?

What in the world was he getting for $15?!? Overnight delivery? And the PO put a tracking sticker on his envelope that couldn't come off?

This whole thing smells funny...

storm888 · February 20, 2009 2:49AM

"...This whole thing smells funny... "

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It's known as, "Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire!"

jswieton · February 20, 2009 3:18AM

I recieved a kobe bryant rc once in a white envelope that wasn't even put into a case. The corners were all mashed up when I recieved it.

Prewarcaramelcollector · February 20, 2009 4:59AM

something smells fishy

jlzinck · February 20, 2009 5:03AM

<< something smells fishy >>

The fishy thing is he is dealing with a 13 or 14 y/o "collector.

WinPitcher · February 20, 2009 5:57AM

Sorry, I thought you meant here, also and fwiw I too have gotten mail
that was not canceled many times.

Bill I'm not referring to how freebies are sent if a person pays for shipping
proper safeguards should be used.

Steve

celesterussell · February 20, 2009 7:51AM

CHEAPO IN ACTION.....

rube26105 · February 20, 2009 7:54AM

thats almost as good as my 89 donruss griffey rookie in a neon green 1 1/2 x 12 inch mailer,that was it

Allen · February 20, 2009 8:17AM

The populous of the youth of America consists of 40% ADHD, 50% dumb@$$es and the other 10% is killed in school shootings committed by the other 90%.

I traded on a few other sites and I really cannot stand the children. If I was that dumb as a child I am sure my mom would have had me discarded like the Spartans at the beginning of 300.

jimq112 · February 20, 2009 8:24AM

<< strange, there is no post office markings....how could it be delivered without the post office placing the location "stamp" thingy on the stamps? fishy >>

They only get the postmark if you ask the clerk at the sending office to mark it, otherwise they're "usually" sprayed by the cancelling machine. Carriers also have cancelling stamps mounted on the sorting case, most of them are usually caught and stamped, some are not.

The damage is from the mail sorting machine, it caught the toploader that made the envelope not uniform thickness. It should have made it's way into a body bag and should have been stamped damaged.

The bar code sprayed on the bottom front of the envelope is sprayed by an optic reader and tells all USPS machines where the mail goes.

If you send a PWE and surround the toploader with a couple sheets of paper that fill the envelope it will probably get there ok, but that would defeat the sender's intentions of profiting on shipping.

otwcards · February 20, 2009 10:43AM

Interesting that this came up. I just received a PSA/DNA slabbed card that was shipped in a PWE and had postage due! The azzclown put a $.42 stamp on the letter with no return address.

Now, this wouldn't be such a big deal, but he charged $5.99 for S/H!!! I emailed him about it and told him I didn't appreciate having to go to the PO to pick up the item because I had to pay the PO another friggin' $.75 after he charged me $5.99 to ship it. His response: "You got a great deal and even with the mailing costs I lost money and I left you good feedback and expect you to leave me good feedback to (sic)." Well, the feedback I left wasn't bad, but he got a "1" for S/H and won't get another penny of my business!!! BTW, I did get a good deal on the card, but that isn't really important, is it?

storm888 · February 20, 2009 11:10AM

"...BTW, I did get a good deal on the card, but that isn't really important, is it? .."

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It is of NO importance/relevance at all.

I am VERY pro-seller, but they must be good sellers.
Using PWEs to ship fragile items is NOT being a good
seller.

I would NEG a seller for using a PWE when to do so
put my item at risk.

The value/price of the item means nothing. If I bought
it, I want it and I want it delivered safely to me.

IJustLoveCards · February 20, 2009 11:25AM

<< Interesting that this came up. I just received a PSA/DNA slabbed card that was shipped in a PWE and had postage due! The azzclown put a $.42 stamp on the letter with no return address.

Now, this wouldn't be such a big deal, but he charged $5.99 for S/H!!! I emailed him about it and told him I didn't appreciate having to go to the PO to pick up the item because I had to pay the PO another friggin' $.75 after he charged me $5.99 to ship it. His response: "You got a great deal and even with the mailing costs I lost money and I left you good feedback and expect you to leave me good feedback to (sic)." Well, the feedback I left wasn't bad, but he got a "1" for S/H and won't get another penny of my business!!! BTW, I did get a good deal on the card, but that isn't really important, is it? >>

ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING ME!! PM me his ebay name please so I NEVER buy from him. I am DEAD SERIOUS!!!

Thank you in advance.

grote15 · February 21, 2009 4:35PM

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<< strange, there is no post office markings....how could it be delivered without the post office placing the location "stamp" thingy on the stamps? fishy >>

I guess you mean the postmark? Not that uncommon to get letters and packages without the stamps canceled. >>

really? not that uncommon? i think it is RARE, especially in slow mail times like nowadays (recession)...

dont think they would allow people to reuse stamps in tough times....i know a PM (postmaster) and he says that is the biggest thing theuy watch--no reusable stamps!

I receive many larger envelopes (non-card related) in the mail on a regular basis, and I can say with certainty that many packages arrive with uncanceled stamps...I'd say at least 15% or more...

WinPitcher · February 21, 2009 10:37PM

Just want to throw out there that just because the stamps are not canceled you
are NOT allowed to use them again.

Steve

Is this anyway to ship a card?

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