It's official....PCGS First Strike® Cut-off date for UHR is March 11th

Goldbully · February 18, 2009 6:44AM

Come on Mint quit sitting on these babies!!!!!!!!!!!!

YaHa · February 18, 2009 6:56AM

Well, I know this is a Pcgs board.

But NGC has a cutoff date of March 9 2009, and so far they have graded a handful..

SportsModerator · February 18, 2009 7:05AM

<< Oh *Yaha*, you've done it again.. >>

Actually, it's the same coin broken out and resubmitted in hopes of getting a MS71

BECOKA · February 18, 2009 7:09AM

I got over the FS when they took away our ability to submit for it. Bringing it back added salt to the wound.

Hence, no rush for me.

19Lyds · February 18, 2009 7:12AM

<< I got over the FS when they took away our ability to submit for it. Bringing it back added salt to the wound.

Hence, no rush for me.

>>

Huh?

That policy was redacted almost immediately. Actually, before the UHR was even announced.

YaHa · February 18, 2009 7:12AM

<< 

<< Oh *Yaha*, you've done it again.. >>

Actually, it's the same coin broken out and resubmitted in hopes of getting a MS71

>>

BECOKA · February 18, 2009 7:14AM

<< 

<< I got over the FS when they took away our ability to submit for it. Bringing it back added salt to the wound.

Hence, no rush for me.

>>

Huh?

That policy was redacted almost immediately. Actually, before the UHR was even announced. >>

That's what I said in not so many words. Guess I just hold a grudge longer than most. I was upset when they took FS and Bulk away. I realize FS came back quickly but it was too late, I already made my decisions not to go out of my way to get it.

greghansen · February 18, 2009 7:21AM

I'm no 'first strike' fan generally. If you get your coin in time, however, IMO you are making a big mistake if you DO NOT submit it for 'first strike' labeling. The one per household order limits will make it harder for the bulk dealers to get as many of these as they want in a first strike slab. IMO the 'first strike' premium for these will be greater than the 'first strike' premium for most issues. Not saying that's the way it should be...just sayin'.

Goldbully · February 18, 2009 8:44AM

If you get your coin in time, however, IMO you are making a big mistake if you DO NOT submit it for 'first strike' labeling.

Silverstate · February 18, 2009 9:47AM

"Hannah Van Buren" ??

Who has that one?

Van Buren Liberty Spouse coins are out but no Hannah Van Buren!

jdimmick · February 18, 2009 10:03AM

Am I correct in stating that as long as you have a your UHR un-opened in its shipping box and its post marked Prior to mar 11, then its eligible for FSTRK as long as you submit the enitre box ??

jim

ambro51 · February 18, 2009 10:06AM

Order Process Date: 2/16/09

Merchandise : 1289.00
Freight . . . : 4.95
Add'l Frt . . : 12.95
Total . . : 1306.90

1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1)
Qty 1 @ $1289.00 - Backordered 03/06/09.

2. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN BOOK (UH3)
Qty 1 @ $.00 - Backordered 02/25/09.

think that will make it??????

Res · February 18, 2009 10:20AM

<< Am I correct in stating that as long as you have a your UHR un-opened in its shipping box and its post marked Prior to mar 11, then its eligible for FSTRK as long as you submit the enitre box ??

jim >>

They don't need the box if you mail it prior to the 11th.

lkeigwin · February 18, 2009 10:26AM

<< 

<< Am I correct in stating that as long as you have a your UHR un-opened in its shipping box and its post marked Prior to mar 11, then its eligible for FSTRK as long as you submit the enitre box ??

jim >>

They don't need the box if you mail it prior to the 11th. >>

I don't think that's what Jim is asking. Suppose you submit the entire, unopened, post-marked-prior-to-March-11 box in April? Let's say you were away on business and couldn't deal with it before then...
Lance.

veryfine · February 18, 2009 10:32AM

There's obviously a market for first strike coins, and the UHR might have the highest demand for one with this designation.
But would someone kindly explain to me WHY there is a strong demand for a first strike UHR?
Does first mean higher quality, or different in any way, shape or form?

holeinone1972 · February 18, 2009 10:33AM

<< 

<< 

<< Am I correct in stating that as long as you have a your UHR un-opened in its shipping box and its post marked Prior to mar 11, then its eligible for FSTRK as long as you submit the enitre box ??

jim >>

They don't need the box if you mail it prior to the 11th. >>

I don't think that's what Jim is asking. Suppose you submit the entire, unopened, post-marked-prior-to-March-11 box in April? Let's say you were away on business and couldn't deal with it before then...
Lance. >>

Correct, you could submit it in 2012, that is if the world has not ended.

zeebob · February 18, 2009 10:36AM

Well, the last estimate I saw at the Mint's site for shipment of my UHR was Mar 6th, but that was a week ago and "Track Order" hasn't worked on the US Mint's site since then...

Bob

timber100 · February 18, 2009 10:43AM

<< There's obviously a market for first strike coins, and the UHR might have the highest demand for one with this designation.
But would someone kindly explain to me WHY there is a strong demand for a first strike UHR?
Does first mean higher quality, or different in any way, shape or form? >>

IMHO, I could never understand how the coins demand a premium. The whole designation is a marketing dream and it enables the TPG to charge more for grading and dealers to charge more for the coin, which I am still trying to understand why sensible coin collectors pay the premium. It is something the home shopping network or other TV coin dealers would have been proud of inventing, had they come up with it. I know I am not alone when I say I will never pay a premium to slab or buy the first strike designation. However, had I been able to get the first first strike on the UHR like Charlie did, I may have changed my tune

jdimmick · February 18, 2009 10:55AM

Yes, I agree , I dont see what difference a first stike designation means in coin quality, but since others do, mine is going in if eligible, to maximize return $.

I get bullion coins in often in slabs that have first strike on them, I pay no different for them over the counter. I always suggest they sell on e-bay if they want to try and get the most, but most sell anyway and dont want to bother with E.

SportsModerator · February 18, 2009 11:03AM

They're being shipped UPS. No date or "postmark" on the boxes.

Better get them in to PCGS before 3/11

notwilight · February 18, 2009 11:08AM

<< 

<< Oh *Yaha*, you've done it again.. >>

Actually, it's the same coin broken out and resubmitted in hopes of getting a MS71

>>

Actually over there they may have to invent that grade the way they sometimes pass out 70's like candy. --Jerry

Goldbully · February 18, 2009 11:27AM

<< Am I correct in stating that as long as you have a your UHR un-opened in its shipping box and its post marked Prior to mar 11, then its eligible for FSTRK as long as you submit the enitre box ??

jim >>

From PCGS Website....

"First Strike® designation is available on qualifying coins for an additional $14 per coin. This fee covers the cost of the special First Strike insert and return of mint packaging if applicable. To qualify for First Strike, coins must be sent to PCGS or sent in a mint-sealed package postmarked within 30 days of the original release date. Cut off dates to qualify are below. For coins sent to PCGS prior to the cut off, customers are encouraged to submit coins in their acrylic capsules only. Coins submitted for First Strike should be submitted on separate submission forms from non-First Strike coins with separate return shipping."

I would call for a clarification on the un-opened box since there will be no postmark, just UPS labeling data.

northcoin · February 18, 2009 11:37AM

<< There's obviously a market for first strike coins, and the UHR might have the highest demand for one with this designation.
But would someone kindly explain to me WHY there is a strong demand for a first strike UHR?
Does first mean higher quality, or different in any way, shape or form? >>

The first strike of any coin has a greater chance of being proof like before the dies wear. The prospect that your "First Strike" coin really was a first strike adds some measure of value.

Burnie · February 18, 2009 11:39AM

When PCGS opens your package they will find a dated invoice.

northcoin · February 18, 2009 11:42AM

Does this sending the unopened package mean that we have to send the book along with the coin?

CaptHenway · February 18, 2009 1:12PM

<< Does this sending the unopened package mean that we have to send the book along with the coin? >>

Maybe they can postmark a "FIRST DAY OF ISSUE" Lincoln stamp in it for you!!!!!

derryb · February 18, 2009 2:31PM

<< 

<< There's obviously a market for first strike coins, and the UHR might have the highest demand for one with this designation.
But would someone kindly explain to me WHY there is a strong demand for a first strike UHR?
Does first mean higher quality, or different in any way, shape or form? >>

The first strike of any coin has a greater chance of being proof like before the dies wear. The prospect that your "First Strike" coin really was a first strike adds some measure of value. >>

The "30 days" has nothing to do with a first strike. Many a fresh set of dies is used after the 30 day first strike cutoff. Mint probably when through a dozen set of dies before the first coin shipped. NGC's "early releases" makes more since than "First Strike." Besides, there is only one coin per set of dies that is truely a "first strike." First Strike is a marketing gimmick that works. That's all it is.

RYK · February 18, 2009 2:36PM

<< 

<< There's obviously a market for first strike coins, and the UHR might have the highest demand for one with this designation.
But would someone kindly explain to me WHY there is a strong demand for a first strike UHR?
Does first mean higher quality, or different in any way, shape or form? >>

The first strike of any coin has a greater chance of being proof like before the dies wear. The prospect that your "First Strike" coin really was a first strike adds some measure of value. >>

I had to read this statement twice, as it is somewhat misleading. The First Strike coins are really first shipped and may or may not be coins that are early emissions from a given die. So far as I can tell, it is only a marketing or branding label, which while warrants a premium today, may or may not continue to do so in the future.

northcoin · February 18, 2009 3:41PM

<< 

<< 

<< There's obviously a market for first strike coins, and the UHR might have the highest demand for one with this designation.
But would someone kindly explain to me WHY there is a strong demand for a first strike UHR?
Does first mean higher quality, or different in any way, shape or form? >>

The first strike of any coin has a greater chance of being proof like before the dies wear. The prospect that your "First Strike" coin really was a first strike adds some measure of value. >>

I had to read this statement twice, as it is somewhat misleading. The First Strike coins are really first shipped and may or may not be coins that are early emissions from a given die. So far as I can tell, it is only a marketing or branding label, which while warrants a premium today, may or may not continue to do so in the future. >>

Good read. No question that "some measure of value" may be minute, but some few recipients of coins from the first batch will have the first stricken of all the UHRs, whereas anyone after that first release does not even have that prospect. It is sort of like being at the game where Harvard beat Yale 29-29 even though you didn't actually play in it.

Goldbully · February 19, 2009 5:50AM

I agree with RYK....First Strike=First Shipped!!!

Robb · February 19, 2009 5:58AM

<< The "30 days" has nothing to do with a first strike. Many a fresh set of dies is used after the 30 day first strike cutoff. Mint probably when through a dozen set of dies before the first coin shipped. NGC's "early releases" makes more since than "First Strike." Besides, there is only one coin per set of dies that is truely a "first strike." First Strike is a marketing gimmick that works. That's all it is. >>

AMEN!

puritan9 · February 19, 2009 6:02AM

The Mint just took the hold off my credit card. Wish I could use the cancel button to cancel it.

It's official....PCGS First Strike® Cut-off date for UHR is March 11th

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