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Something I noticed on NGC slabs... I never saw before

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 12, 2009 9:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Yesterday while inspecting 4 different era NGC slabs in direct sunlight (Post Office Parking Lot) with a 10x loupe (NOT a Hubble Telescope) I noticed that the NGC clear acrylic has dimples.

It's completely micro granular, as some of these spots where cast on the coin from the sunlight under rotation.

Anyone else ever seen these under close inspection... or am I coming down with a bad case of Rabbititus

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Aberlight Posts: 384 ✭✭

February 12, 2009 9:59PM

I have notice it. It really affects early proofs in my opinion, but I usually crack out the coins from slabs so it isn't an issue.

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 12, 2009 10:18PM

<< <i>I have notice it. It really affects early proofs in my opinion, but I usually crack out the coins from slabs so it isn't an issue. >>

Great... always good to know I'm not alone!

Wonder if NGC does this for a reason (?) as paying a bit more attention this type of acrylic, it softens the overall look of the entombed coin IMHO.

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AnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭

February 12, 2009 10:54PM

I think you need a visit to Dr. Killpatient

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leothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 12:42AM

I thought you found some small print where it said, "Graded In China".
But there have been other threads on this here and no, I won't search them for you.

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Kdog08 Posts: 771

February 13, 2009 12:47AM

I usually just check to make sure that they don't say "RNOWLEDGE,INTEGRIGY and NUNISMATISTS"

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LanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 12:49AM

that's one reason that I don't particularly like NGC tombs. Those dimples really affect my eye when looking closely at the coin through them.

Even the early no line fatty slabs don't look completely clear to me, always seemed like something was interfering with my view. Could be that I'm 200 years older than moses, but I prefer to blame it on NGC.

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messydesk Posts: 20,751 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 12:50AM

I've noticed this. This makes them a pain in the arse to photograph unless you polish the grunt out of the slabs first.

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relicsncoins Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 1:04AM

It's an anti-milkspotting measure for SAE's.

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Johnp Posts: 336

February 13, 2009 1:07AM

Wow my eyes are not good but will have a look on some of my slabs, 10x should do it ha.?

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nicetoning42107 Posts: 1,162

February 13, 2009 1:10AM

I have noticed the DMPLs before, but it doesn't affect my viewing of the coin.

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 1:13AM

<< <i>Wow my eyes are not good but will have a look on some of my slabs, 10x should do it ha.? >>

10x looking at the clear acrylic in the coin cutout area and all along rest covering the white acrylic center... you'll see em EVERYWHERE!

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TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 1:17AM

I just want to see what's behind this polymer/plasticized,acrylicized/injection molded stuff with a label sandwiched in between for good measure.

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 3:02AM

<< <i>I just want to see what's behind this polymer/plasticized,acrylicized/injection molded stuff with a label sandwiched in between for good measure. >>

So TwoSides2aCoin... How Many Licks did it take

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RunnersDad Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 3:08AM

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<< <i>I just want to see what's behind this polymer/plasticized,acrylicized/injection molded stuff with a label sandwiched in between for good measure. >>

So TwoSides2aCoin... How Many Licks did it take

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A One! A Two! A Three! Three.....

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MikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 3:09AM

<< <i>Anyone else ever seen these under close inspection... >>

Yes.

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 3:10AM

<< <i>

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<< <i>I just want to see what's behind this polymer/plasticized,acrylicized/injection molded stuff with a label sandwiched in between for good measure. >>

So TwoSides2aCoin... How Many Licks did it take

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A One! A Two! A Three! Three..... >>

Is that just licks... or did you chew and crack it

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RunnersDad Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 3:18AM

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<< <i>I just want to see what's behind this polymer/plasticized,acrylicized/injection molded stuff with a label sandwiched in between for good measure. >>

So TwoSides2aCoin... How Many Licks did it take

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A One! A Two! A Three! Three..... >>

Is that just licks... or did you chew and crack it >>

You might chip a tooth, but you could try

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 6:40AM

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<< <i>I just want to see what's behind this polymer/plasticized,acrylicized/injection molded stuff with a label sandwiched in between for good measure. >>

So TwoSides2aCoin... How Many Licks did it take

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A One! A Two! A Three! Three..... >>

Is that just licks... or did you chew and crack it >>

You might chip a tooth, but you could try >>

Then you could be next months feature in NCS's newletter!

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airplanenut Posts: 22,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 6:52AM

I've seen it, but never moreso than today. I was editing images and found that I had lit a coin just the way needed to make a whole patch of those dimples glow. Now I have to reshoot

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PawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭

February 13, 2009 7:38AM

Put some slabs in the trunk of your car on a real hot summer day -leave them there until temp. reaches 150 -160 degrees.........

then study the plastic !

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BECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭

February 13, 2009 12:00PM

I'm just glad that one smack on the side of the holder with a hammer and it falls right apart.

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October 2, 2015 2:05AM

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oreville Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

October 2, 2015 2:10AM

I thought this was old news?

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October 2, 2015 2:13AM

I don't care for NGC as a whole and now I can add this to the reason why. I think I have two NGC slabs {(1961) 1C CSA-Bashlow Restrike Copper and a 1967 25C SMS MS68} I may have a moment or two to "look into these dimples" thing. I hope I don't have a eye spasm looking at them.

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LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

October 2, 2015 2:29AM

<< <i>Yesterday while inspecting 4 different era NGC slabs in direct sunlight (Post Office Parking Lot) with a 10x loupe (NOT a Hubble Telescope) I noticed that the NGC clear acrylic has dimples. >>

if you are talking about the area over the coins, i havent noticed it with ngc slabs but have with pcgs various gen, slabs. it is an even faint pattern. maybe once every 10k images.
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TomB Posts: 22,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

October 2, 2015 2:35AM

I've noticed this for years and it can make photography through them much more difficult.

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Broadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

October 2, 2015 2:41AM

<< <i>I thought this was old news? >>

Apparently only to those of us who are older

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leothelyon Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

October 2, 2015 3:35AM

<< <i>I don't care for NGC as a whole and now I can add this to the reason why. I think I have two NGC slabs {(1961) 1C CSA-Bashlow Restrike Copper and a 1967 25C SMS MS68} I may have a moment or two to "look into these dimples" thing. I hope I don't have a eye spasm looking at them. >>

For some strange oddball reason, out of some 450 slabs I have, only 6 of them are NGC. They're like that kid you stick out in left field and pray he doesn't get any fly balls. Hmmm, there's an analogy in there somewhere.

Leo

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