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any news on that massive treasure they recovered last year

dimplesdimples Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭
They recovered it somewhere around England. 6 hundred 5 gallon. tubs of early american silver crowns were recovered from the wreck. Last I heard it was immediately shipped to the US, I assume for conservation and encapsulation by NGC or PCGS. Spain has a lawsuit involved.

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    That company, Odyssey Marine, has a treasure show on every Thursday night now I believe, on either Discovery Channel or National Geographic channel, something like that. I am sure the treasure you are talking about is still in the courts, I think it was called "The Black Swan" treasure.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WoW that will be cool to see.


    Hoard the keys.
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    dimplesdimples Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭
    That's it The black swan hoard They had a picture showing hundreds of tubs stacked up with one open. Cool picture if anyone can put it up here on this thread.
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    << <i>They recovered it somewhere around England. 6 hundred 5 gallon. tubs of early american silver crowns were recovered from the wreck. Last I heard it was immediately shipped to the US, I assume for conservation and encapsulation by NGC or PCGS. Spain has a lawsuit involved. >>



    They settled the claim Spain had against them for a small % of the total value.
    Yes, it was the Black Swan.
    They are a publicly traded company, symbol OMEX.
    JT
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    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
    is this the one from the raid on the treasury in like 1812-14?
    whereas all those american coins are dated like 1814 and earlier?
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    BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Incredible to see - the bottoms of seas all over the globe

    are literally filled with untold, countless ships lost, laden with such treasures.

    It really makes you think when you see stuff like this!

    Amazing!
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    Was in the Mel Fisher experdition for a year where we got to go dive the trail of the Atocha treasure ship and got lots of coins and great experinces from that year. Have a few of the coins up for auction on Ebay right now.


    1715 Gold 2 escudos Ebay Link

    Atocha Silver 8 Ebay Link

    That is some real treasure coins for you
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I wonder if they have any Bulk Deals on those coins image

    If those White bins are all full of coins, then that's absolutely AMAZING
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    DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    they are being fairly tight-lipped, but some details are out:

    - the coins are in a undisclosed location in Florida. NGC/NCS has their offices there, but Odyssey may also. some coins are possibly being conserved.

    - the coins are largely uncirculated, and are worth possibly 500M

    - reports say that the silver coins are most likely Mexican Reales


    looking forward to seeing them when they come on the market!

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    YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    I heard someone said they saw Elvis scuba driving near the wreck.

    Elvis was humming Fast cars, love my honey, oh no not don't take me money...

    Thank, thank you very much.image
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    BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    These 2 pictures absolutely blow me away. image
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    YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>Incredible to see - the bottoms of seas all over the globe

    are literally filled with untold, countless ships lost, laden with such treasures.

    It really makes you think when you see stuff like this!

    Amazing! >>



    Boomer I would be in AWE, just to view the finds in person. I bettca I would have a woody. I know.. too much info. But God I love stories like that. image
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    any word if the disgraced former Presidential candidate, John Edwards, is still a minority partner in that Odyssey treasure hunter endeavor?

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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wow- a hoard that size will KILL the surviving population count and really hurt the value
    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275


    << <i>wow- a hoard that size will KILL the surviving population count and really hurt the value >>


    Yep, but that then means I can buy more of 'em imageimage
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    coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    never mind
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>wow- a hoard that size will KILL the surviving population count and really hurt the value >>




    All the silver will be slabbed sea salvage.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>They recovered it somewhere around England. 6 hundred 5 gallon. tubs of early american silver crowns were recovered from the wreck. Last I heard it was immediately shipped to the US, I assume for conservation and encapsulation by NGC or PCGS. Spain has a lawsuit involved. >>



    They settled the claim Spain had against them for a small % of the total value.
    Yes, it was the Black Swan.
    They are a publicly traded company, symbol OMEX.
    JT >>



    Really? I don't see anything beyond motions being filed; this link comes from OME's site INFO.
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    wow
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    Here is a link to the original story

    and here's the release about the show:

    SILVER SPRING, Md., Dec. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- TREASURE QUEST takes the meaning of "cold case" to a new level - it's not always what you find, but what you find out. Discovery Channel and Odyssey Marine Exploration, the world's only publicly-traded company dedicated to deep ocean shipwreck exploration, plunges viewers to the ocean floor as they track the unsolved mysteries of the deep sea in this 11-part world premiere series. The nonstop race against time, secret locations and international intrigue will make the viewer's pulse race and remind them of their childhood fantasies. For the Odyssey crew and the Discovery Channel production team, it is a dream job -- but not one without its major challenges. TREASURE QUEST premieres Thursdays at 10PM ET/PT, beginning January 15, 2009.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
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    tander123tander123 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭
    I have seen the show and have really enjoyed. I tivo it every week.
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would be kool to see some pics of these actual silver & gold coins...
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    Try this new one on for size!

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    Wreck of renowned British warship found in Channel

    TAMPA, Fla. – Florida deep-sea explorers who found $500 million in sunken treasure two years ago say they have discovered another prized shipwreck: A legendary British man-of-war that sank in the English Channel 264 years ago.

    Odyssey Marine Exploration hasn't found any gold this time, but it's looking for an even bigger jackpot. The company's research indicates the HMS Victory was carrying 4 tons of gold coins that could be worth considerably more than the treasure that Odyssey raised from a sunken Spanish galleon in 2007, co-founder Greg Stemm said ahead of a news conference set for Monday in London.

    So far, Odyssey has recovered two brass cannons from the wreck of the Victory and continues to examine and map the debris field, which lies about 330 feet beneath the surface, Stemm said. The company said it is negotiating with the British government over collaborating on the project.

    "This is a big one, just because of the history," Stemm said. "Very rarely do you solve an age-old mystery like this."

    Odyssey said the 31 brass cannons and other evidence on the wreck allowed definitive identification of the HMS Victory, 175-foot sailing ship that was separated from its fleet during a storm and sank in the English Channel on Oct. 4, 1744, with at least 900 men aboard. The ship was the largest and, with 110 brass cannons, the most heavily armed vessel of its day. It was the inspiration for the HMS Victory famously commanded by Adm. Horatio Nelson decades later.

    Odyssey was searching for other valuable shipwrecks in the English Channel when it came across the Victory. Stemm wouldn't say exactly where the ship was found for fear of attracting plunderers, though he said it wasn't close to where it was expected to be.

    "We found this more than 50 miles from where anybody would have thought it went down," Stemm said. Federal court records filed by Odyssey in Tampa seeking the exclusive salvage rights said the site is 25 to 40 miles from the English coast, outside of its territorial waters.

    A Ministry of Defense spokesman said Sunday the government was aware of Odyssey's claim to have found the Victory.

    "Assuming the wreck is indeed that of a British warship, her remains are sovereign immune," he said on condition of anonymity in keeping with government policy. "This means that no intrusive action may be taken without the express consent of the United Kingdom."

    He would not say whether the government had begun talks with Odyssey over the future of the find.

    Newspapers of the day and other historical records analyzed by the company indicated that the Victory sank off the Channel Island of Alderney near Cherbourg, France. A 1991 British postage stamp depicts the Victory crashing on the rocks there. Pieces of the ship had washed up in various places, but its final resting place had remained a mystery.

    The belief that the Victory had crashed onto the rocks had marred an otherwise exemplary service record of the ship's commander, Sir John Balchin, and a lighthouse keeper on Alderney was prosecuted for failing to keep the light on. Odyssey believes the discovery exonerates both men.

    "As far as the family is concerned, it is an astonishing revelation," said Robert Balchin, a 66-year-old British university administrator and direct descendant of the commander. "It's as if he's sort of come alive again.

    "When I went to see this extraordinary find of the cannon with the coat of arms of the king on the side, it was really a wonderful feeling to know that Sir John Balchin saw that every day, and it brought a very special communion with the past."

    The HMS Victory was returning from Lisbon, Portugal, and was probably transporting 100,000 gold Portuguese coins for merchants, according to Odyssey's research. The ship had sailed there to help rescue a Mediterranean convoy blockaded by the French in the River Tagus at Lisbon.

    The wreck site is roughly 70 feet by 200 feet and littered with other debris, Odyssey said. Its research ship, Odyssey Explorer, is equipped with a remote underwater robot capable of carefully removing the smallest of items from the bottom and shooting high-resolution photos and video.

    Odyssey, a publicly traded corporation, announced in May 2007 that it had raised 17 tons of silver coins from an Atlantic Ocean shipwreck. The company later said it believed the wreck to be the Spanish galleon Nuestra Senora de las Mercedes y las Animas, which sank off Portugal in 1804.

    Shortly afterward, the Spanish government sued Odyssey in federal court in Tampa to claim the treasure, arguing that the shipwreck was never abandoned by Spain. The case is pending.

    Some in the Spanish government have called the company 21st-century pirates, and twice in the months after the 2007 announcement, ships from Spain's Civil Guard seized Odyssey ships off the Spanish coast. Both ships and their crews were released within a week.

    The company's relationship with the British government has been more cordial. Odyssey had already negotiated an agreement with British officials regarding the search for the HMS Sussex, which sank in the western Mediterranean in 1694 with gold coins aboard.

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    Associated Press writer Jill Lawless in London contributed to this report.
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