Torre the idiot I always thought he was.

Joewoowoo · January 26, 2009 4:30AM

He had a great legacy here in NY , and he just threw it all out the window with his new book, bad mouthing the Yankee org and a calling out some individuals. He will never be invited back. I personally never liked the guy. Its my opinion that he was in the right place at the right time , he couldnt and didnt win anywhere else. He was fortunate to get Manny or he would have been a looser in LA as well.

julen23 · January 26, 2009 4:32AM

do you not agree w/ a-rod being insanely jealous of jeter?

j

StanTheManMusial · January 26, 2009 4:34AM

The stats don't lie. He helped the Yankees. Like him or not, he did help them win championships, and get them back to the winning ways that had been lost. He has made the playoffs something like 13 straight years now, eh? Must be doing something right.

cwazzy · January 26, 2009 4:35AM

When does the book come out? Isn't it possible that this has all been taken out of context?

Chris

perkdog · January 26, 2009 4:41AM

<< The stats don't lie. He helped the Yankees. Like him or not, he did help them win championships, and get them back to the winning ways that had been lost. He has made the playoffs something like 13 straight years now, eh? Must be doing something right. >>

In all honesty it would have been dificult not to be somewhat succesful with the teams he had to work with.

yankeeno7 · January 26, 2009 4:42AM

Torre was snubbed and disrepected by Yankees management. First was the insult of a contract they offered him before he left. Then he was snubbed during the Yankee Stadium farewell. The man is a legend. He made championship teams out of hard nose players back in the late 90s. I say good for him.

lawnmowerman · January 26, 2009 4:42AM

I serioulsy doubt he is an idiot. In fact he is far from one.

However, he does have a second butt as a nose.

Joewoowoo · January 26, 2009 4:42AM

<< do you not agree w/ a-rod being insanely jealous of jeter?

j >>

yes I agree with you there. Arod wants to be the man but he is not. what I am saying about Torre is he has always been a low key guy. He doesnt need the money and didnt need to say the crap he allegedly wrote in there. its making headlines ,so it must be nasty.

julen23 · January 26, 2009 4:46AM

his relationship w/ yankee brass is the dirty everyone's talking about & what you're prolly alluding 2.

i can't figure out why he did it either personally?

j

BunchOBull · January 26, 2009 4:47AM

The "A-Fraud" bit is interesting.

Infighting is a common thread among institutions built upon money alone. With that plague seemingly hitting the majority of teams with big name stars, it's nice to see so many young players taking less money these days in order to stick around and build a franchise.

swartz1 · January 26, 2009 4:47AM

Torre was the epitome of class with the Yankees...

Now that he is gone...it was/is time to let everyone know what truly happened in New York...

I respect him and am glad he is letting everyone know...

NYYanks23 · January 26, 2009 5:10AM

I think he was unfairly treated by the Yankees on his way out, and don't have a problem with him speaking his mind.

BobS · January 26, 2009 5:21AM

Sounds like the same old sing-song. Anyone remember Billy Martin? Just how many times did he "come back" to the organization?

PoppaJ · January 26, 2009 5:22AM

"He's always the same. That's the reason he's been so successful. He relays that to us in good times, bad times, and he's got the perfect mentality, I think, for a manager." .... Derek Jeter on Joe Torre

Joewoowoo · January 26, 2009 5:47AM

<< I think he was unfairly treated by the Yankees on his way out, and don't have a problem with him speaking his mind. >>

Unfairly treated , I disagree. He was paid for what he accomplished in his contract years. He was up for a new contract and at that point he had not won the WS since 2000, lost to AZ 2001 & FL IN 2003. Most importantly gave up a 3-0 lead over Boston in 2004 letting them go to the WS and win , ugg im still sick over that. When he was up for a new a new contract remember you have already been paid for what you have done in the past . I will say that the Yankees were put in ths type of situation twice in recent memory with both Bernie and Torre, the Yankees didnt really want either anymore and made lowball offers to in which the chances were they would not accept and the Yanks would be off the hook, so I ask this , How long does any team need to stay loyal ? if a player is past his prime years and now trying to stay around for the cash. are you saying they should pay up forever, cmon , baseball is a business . Most players are less loyal than teams are.

rube26105 · January 26, 2009 5:50AM

woo

Joewoowoo · January 26, 2009 5:56AM

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woo

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hey Rube how are you ? man you have alot of posts ! hahahaha

GOODLIEU · January 26, 2009 6:00AM

<< 

<< I think he was unfairly treated by the Yankees on his way out, and don't have a problem with him speaking his mind. >>

Unfairly treated , I disagree. He was paid for what he accomplished in his contract years. He was up for a new contract and at that point he had not won the WS since 2000, lost to AZ 2001 & FL IN 2003. Most importantly gave up a 3-0 lead over Boston in 2004 letting them go to the WS and win , ugg im still sick over that. When he was up for a new a new contract remember you have already been paid for what you have done in the past . I will say that the Yankees were put in ths type of situation twice in recent memory with both Bernie and Torre, the Yankees didnt really want either anymore and made lowball offers to in which the chances were they would not accept and the Yanks would be off the hook, so I ask this , How long does any team need to stay loyal ? if a player is past his prime years and now trying to stay around for the cash. are you saying they should pay up forever, cmon , baseball is a business . Most players are less loyal than teams are. >>

?????? He gave up a three game lead ????. No his team did that because they choked it up when the pressure was on if Joe Torre the player was out there I guarantee you he would have come through when the pressure was on. What was Joe Torre's major blunder? He actually thought that if you treat these players like men and talk to them in a respectful professional manner they will respond, wow your right the game has past him by LOL. Whats truly sad is that Class and Dignity are now looked as character flaws to the modern day athletes.

mickeymantle24 · January 26, 2009 6:19AM

I personaly enjoyed torre in new York. With all that money they would you think they could off got someone better than Joe Girradi?

TheThrill22 · January 26, 2009 6:20AM

Joe Torre is a class guy, the Yanks management treated him like garbage. Good for him being in LA where he can relax and soak up the sun.

mmsportscards · January 26, 2009 6:22AM

Woo-

Dont get me started!!! IF your going to badmouth joe then you might as well not be a yankee fan! Oh yeah your from new york correct!

If you want to start whining about bad yankism start with upper mangagement. They put you in hardtimes! Not joe he is a non nonsense man what peaves him is the nonsense if he was givin the ability to hire and fire and sign players your, OUR ball club would still be dynasty instead of a dud. Arods a puss and always will. Jeter actually grew up 30 minutes from me and I get a little insider on occasion through jeters sister. The gig is the yanks would be a better team without arod imo why is arod jealous dunno maybe because nobody picks on him like yank fans but hey Jeter doesnt or never has put himself like arod does with all his drama.

Yanks will never figure it out. Might as well strip the team and start over because year after year the young bucks are beating are old men. Why because there finally yankees and lifes over. Thats why Joes sour not that they let him go that they bleeped up a good thing he became the scape goat. Oh you cant handle your team LOL who could all of them are grown men with alternate egos. The gamers like jeter, bernie, posada, oniel bet you'll never hear a bad word now would ya.

UGGhhh frustrated thanks for ruining my day!!!!!! Another pass the buck thread or cry me a river yankee thread.

Oh and ps Im a yank fan can you tell. I just dont live in NY so maybe I can see the light a little better.

Gator

WinPitcher · January 26, 2009 6:41AM

I think he is crazy for writing that book.

Steve

bigred1 · January 26, 2009 7:08AM

Should have waited until he was done managing, going to get a lot of play in spring training.

lawnmowerman · January 26, 2009 7:10AM

<< , going to get a lot of play in spring training. >>

Exactly! He is not a dummy. More people will buy his book because of the publicity

GOODLIEU · January 26, 2009 7:24AM

I said this to my buds after Joe Torre was basically shown the door by Yankee management and than outright booted in the ass when they had the stadium's closing ceremony with out even as much as acknowlegement of Joe during the evening and that is the "Sons of the Boss" whats their names? Oh yeah Sonny and Fredo will be doing what the Don ended up doing with Yogi and apolgizing for their lack of class they showed in dealing with a manager when they wanted to go in a different direction with their team. They will be begging his forgiveness so he will show up at future Yankee Old Timers Day events.

grote15 · January 26, 2009 8:16AM

Torre an idiot? That's ridiculous...he did a tremendous job while managing the yankees and he always acted with class and dignity..it's no surprise thye Yankees postseason streak ended the year he left...the yankees management treated him and his coaching staff (Mel, Zim) with disrespect so a book like this should ne no surprise..everyone writes a book now, it's old hat anyway,,,the yankees should stop worrying about Joe Torre and move on..

IchiroDeported · January 26, 2009 8:20AM

"Most importantly gave up a 3-0 lead over Boston in 2004 letting them go to the WS and win , ugg im still sick over that. "

I didnt realize the Torre gave up all those game winning homeruns.

itzagoner · January 26, 2009 9:41AM

he's gonna make a wheelbarrow fulla $$$ on that book.

some idiot.

Joewoowoo · January 26, 2009 11:21AM

<< "Most importantly gave up a 3-0 lead over Boston in 2004 letting them go to the WS and win , ugg im still sick over that. "

I didnt realize the Torre gave up all those game winning homeruns. >>

its always the coach/managers fault . players dont take the heat for losses . coaches / managers get fired players do not.

Bottom9th · January 26, 2009 11:33AM

<< Joe Torre is a class guy, the Yanks management treated him like garbage. Good for him being in LA where he can relax and soak up the sun. >>

My son and I met Torre when he was the manager of the Yankees. He was a very nice genuine guy and I will always respect him for it. I find it amusing that the Yankee Faithful are turning on him now because he's got the book out. This could get ugly!

Torre the idiot I always thought he was.

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