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So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
I need to crack and soak a copper token in mineral oil before I send it to NGC.

What do I use to degrease it... acetone, then rinse with distilled water image

Sorry I just have never futzed with a coin before...

also if someone knows a quick way to crack a ANACS white chase holder that would be handy too!

(I normally just crossover and haven't cracked a slab in over 15+ years.)

Thanks in advance!!! image
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After a mineral oil soak... A quick dip in acetone, then distilled water. Air dry the coin too...

    As far as cracking the old ANACS white slab... A small vise grip works well, or vise grip pliers to the slabs edges.

    Hope this helps...
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A bolt cutter works great on most slabs. One snip toward the middle of the coin, maybe 1/2" inch from its edge.
    Lance.
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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    And how did the mineral oil work? I would think WD-40 with an acetone rinse might work, though I've never tried it. I like the force of the WD-40 to do some of the work.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>And how did the mineral oil work? >>



    I'm no longer constipated... Oops TMI image

    Seriously... I haven't soaked the token yet.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>After a mineral oil soak... A quick dip in acetone, then distilled water. Air dry the coin too...

    As far as cracking the old ANACS white slab... A small vise grip works well, or vise grip pliers to the slabs edges.

    Hope this helps... >>



    Thanks this helps... good to double check image
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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>And how did the mineral oil work? >>

    I'm no longer constipated... Oops TMI image Seriously... I haven't soaked the token yet. >>



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    I am just thinking that mineral oil isn't going to make the grease move. Mineral oil isn't a solvent. If it is crusty grease, it might loosen it up a little.

    Can you post some pictures so we know what you are working with?
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>And how did the mineral oil work? >>

    I'm no longer constipated... Oops TMI image Seriously... I haven't soaked the token yet. >>



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    I am just thinking that mineral oil isn't going to make the grease move. Mineral oil isn't a solvent. If it is crusty grease, it might loosen it up a little.

    Can you post some pictures so we know what you are working with? >>



    tmot99, maybe you misunderstood (?) as I was asking what to degrease the coin with after it soaked in mineral oil to remove crud.

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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.)
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    Cuts the steps and send it right off to me after you scratch it up while trying to crack it out of the case.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.) >>



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    Lucky I only posted this question on the U.S. Coin Forum... NOT the Proctoalgist Forum! image

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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>And how did the mineral oil work? >>

    I'm no longer constipated... Oops TMI image Seriously... I haven't soaked the token yet. >>

    image I am just thinking that mineral oil isn't going to make the grease move. Mineral oil isn't a solvent. If it is crusty grease, it might loosen it up a little. Can you post some pictures so we know what you are working with? >>

    tmot99, maybe you misunderstood (?) as I was asking what to degrease the coin with after it soaked in mineral oil to remove crud. >>



    Yep, misunderstood. Why soak it in mineral oil? What's the crud on it that needs to be removed? I'd try just acetone. I have also used Blue Ribbon on copper and it works quite well. A quick rinse in acetone will remove any remaining BR.
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    HalfStrikeHalfStrike Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭
    Don't let that acetone dry on your coin or you will be sorry.
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    I soaked some ultra crusty copper in olive oil. After a few months I was able to remove some loosened up crud with a q-tip though a rose thorn was suggested. I just patted the coin dry in a paper towel and everything was fine. I did not put the coin in a slab and it still is in good shape.

    From reading here I guess I'd use mineral oil the next time I try. I'm sure soap and water would get the oil off followed by a rinse to get the soap off but there was no need to get any oil off my coin. In fact soap and water might remove some crud right off the bat even before soaking in oil. If it works it would work a lot faster too so might be worth thinking about. I haven't tried acetone on copper. I think one would worry a lot more about high grade coins than about the low grade ones I've played with.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Prune juice >>



    I just got that as it didn't make sense the first time... blonde moment right over my head! image

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,092 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.) >>



    Broadstruck, if it weren't for Roger's wit, I never would have entertained the thought of prune juice.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.) >>



    Broadstruck, if it weren't for Roger's wit, I never would have entertained the thought of prune juice. >>



    Yes RWB's wit is over the top at times! image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.) >>



    RWB, Here's a visual... Just for You!

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    StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭✭

    Aw, man - why did I have to see that?!?

    Pardon me, while I go gouge out my eyes! image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Aw, man - why did I have to see that?!?

    Pardon me, while I go gouge out my eyes! image >>



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    << <i>
    also if someone knows a quick way to crack a ANACS white chase holder that would be handy too!

    >>



    Place slab on thin side on a towl on a hard surface (e.g., concrete floor). With a hammer use small short blows to the sides (rotate slab). You want to hear some cracking, but no real shattering of the plastic (if plastic splinters off and flies across the room you're hitting it too hard). Eventually the holder will pop apart or come apart enough to pry it apart (mind any sharp plastic pieces). Usually the coins stays stuck in the insert; the towl is there to cushion the coin in case it pops out. This works with PCGS, NGC and old ANACS slabs. I STRONGLY SUGGEST you wear some form of EYE PROTECTION. Be careful. I have done >100 slabs that way and never had a problem except for some flying plastic splinters.
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    Theres a video roaming around here somewhere on how to crack out slabs. Is it still on Utube? Can some one with a faster net connection help me out in finding it.
    "One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making new discoveries" -A.A. Milne
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    a039a039 Posts: 1,546
    Tile nippers, never takes more than one "nip" on either side of coin. Hammer is a joke.

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    MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Why not just use isoparaffin, otherwise known as volatile mineral oil. It is a very light grade of mineral oil that evaporates at room temperature. You could just soak it like regular mineral oil in a closed jar and then remove it from the jar and gently pat it dry with a cloth to remove the excess and then the residue would just evaporate. I think regular mineral oil also evaporates, only it takes really long at room temp, like months. I believe they sell volatile mineral oil in craft stores for use as odorless paint thinner or something like that. I am familiar with it because a company I used to work for that made softgel capsules used to use it as an encapsulatable alternative to alcohol for use as a carrier for perfumes for twist off cosmetic capsules.
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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    PLEEZE, some one please tell me that

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    jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.) >>



    RWB, Here's a visual... Just for You!

    imageimageimage >>




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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> So after I soak in mineral oil... what's step 2 to degrease???

    I really don’t want to know the answer or visualize it happening….(Hope you keep your shorts on.) >>



    RWB, Here's a visual... Just for You!

    imageimageimage >>



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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Aaaaakkk!! What has poor Joe the Plumber come to?

    (A great ad for contraceptives, too.)
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Aaaaakkk!! What has poor Joe the Plumber come to?

    (A great ad for contraceptives, too.) >>



    Joe the plumber, RWB?? How 'bout Joe the figgit?' image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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