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Two pitchers. Virtually identical stats. One player's cards are worth something, the other nothing

Guess 'em.



Yrs. G GS CG SH IP Hits ER W K's W L SV ERA No Hitters

14 518 465 167 49 3432.0 3084 1124 855 2486 209 166 6 2.95 0
17 520 465 129 43 3186.0 3046 1203 858 1728 209 164 4 3.40 1
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  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    drysdale on top?
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    Pappas on bottom?
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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Yep, and yep. Pretty interesting.


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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    If those are the players, that is interesting, but not overly surprising.
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  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    Probably a good case of how post-season stats add a few points to popularity.
  • also Drysdale played for a popular team and held an all time record;
    PapSmear won 17 games a couple of times. image

    Im not sure if Don d. is a HOF'er, but HE did appear on the Brady Bunch.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Drysdale at his best was better than Pappas at his best.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭
    A 2.95 ERA and a 3.40 ERA are VERY different.
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  • sagardsagard Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭
    The 14yr guy had an ERA roughly a half run per game lower and pitched 250 more innings.

    Unless you can reconcile that half run per game with some severe home park advantages, I'm saying the 14yr is significantly better.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Drysdale was also the best hitting pitcher of his generation. In fact he was used often as a pinch hitter.

    Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby.


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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Drysdale was also the best hitting pitcher of his generation. In fact he was used often as a pinch hitter.

    Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby.


    Steve[/q

    He pitched a no-hitter too; Pappas I believe was a pretty decent hitting pitcher too
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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Drysdale was also the best hitting pitcher of his generation. In fact he was used often as a pinch hitter.

    Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby.


    Steve[/q

    He pitched a no-hitter too; Pappas I believe was a pretty decent hitting pitcher too >>



    nope, he was a crappy hitter (my bad); I just looked him up on Baseball-Reference
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  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭
    the 58 inning scoreless streak and 3 world series titles didn't hurt

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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby >>



    And with the no hitter he pitched he was one strike away from a perfect game after retiring the first 26 guys. With a 2-2 count the ump
    called the next two picthes as balls. They talked about this once on the sports talk radio I was listening too. I heard the pitches were close
    and to this day he still believes the ump (Bruce Froemming) hosed him. I'll agree with Pappas without ever looking at the play. That ump has
    made some of the worst mistakes ever. He screwed the Phillies in the 1977 NLCS when Bowa threw out Lopes and he called him safe.
    I don't know if he was dreaming about a foot long hoagie or cheesesteak or what....but he really crushed a certain 11/12 year old back
    then. Pappas and I will never forgive him for some of his blown calls! And to me if it was close he should of hooked Pappas up. Jerk!

    aconte

    edited for spelling
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Let it be clarified that there are several reasons the great Don Drysdale is in the HOF and Milt Pappas is not. But the similarities of their numbers is interesting nonetheless.




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  • SidePocketSidePocket Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭
    Let's face it, Don Drysdale is a very cool name, much more than Milt Pappas.

    And he was 6'6" tall and liked to throw at you. Heard he even threw at the on deck hitter once.

    Who would you rather hit against?

    "Molon Labe"

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Drysdale struckout almost 800 more batters then Pappas in less seasons

    Pappas by the way was a pretty good hitting pitcher too. I never realized that he hit 20 hr's.


    Drysdale had 29.


    Steve
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps the voters were "afraid" of not voting Drysdale in - Him and Gibson were two of the nastiest pitchers on the mound I've ever seen - when they hit a batter it wouldn't surprise me if they actually enjoyed it.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And let's face it...it's not like people are beating down the doors to get Don Drysdale cards - unless it's a high grade card for the registry, most of his cards don't hardly sell for chit, compared to many other Hall of Famers.
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