Two pitchers. Virtually identical stats. One player's cards are worth something, the other nothing

RonBurgundy

Guess 'em.



Yrs. G GS CG SH IP Hits ER W K's W L SV ERA No Hitters

14 518 465 167 49 3432.0 3084 1124 855 2486 209 166 6 2.95 0
17 520 465 129 43 3186.0 3046 1203 858 1728 209 164 4 3.40 1

packCollector

drysdale on top?

BunchOBull

Pappas on bottom?

RonBurgundy

Yep, and yep. Pretty interesting.

BunchOBull

If those are the players, that is interesting, but not overly surprising.

KbKards

Probably a good case of how post-season stats add a few points to popularity.

IchiroDeported

also Drysdale played for a popular team and held an all time record;
PapSmear won 17 games a couple of times.

Im not sure if Don d. is a HOF'er, but HE did appear on the Brady Bunch.

digicat

Drysdale at his best was better than Pappas at his best.

shagrotn77

A 2.95 ERA and a 3.40 ERA are VERY different.

sagard

The 14yr guy had an ERA roughly a half run per game lower and pitched 250 more innings.

Unless you can reconcile that half run per game with some severe home park advantages, I'm saying the 14yr is significantly better.

WinPitcher

Drysdale was also the best hitting pitcher of his generation. In fact he was used often as a pinch hitter.

Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby.


Steve

Ironmanfan

<< <i>Drysdale was also the best hitting pitcher of his generation. In fact he was used often as a pinch hitter.

Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby.


Steve[/q

He pitched a no-hitter too; Pappas I believe was a pretty decent hitting pitcher too

Ironmanfan

<< <i>

<< <i>Drysdale was also the best hitting pitcher of his generation. In fact he was used often as a pinch hitter.

Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby.


Steve[/q

He pitched a no-hitter too; Pappas I believe was a pretty decent hitting pitcher too >>



nope, he was a crappy hitter (my bad); I just looked him up on Baseball-Reference

jmoran19

the 58 inning scoreless streak and 3 world series titles didn't hurt

aconte

<< <i>Pappas sole claim to fame is that he was traded for a supposedly washed up Frank Robby >>



And with the no hitter he pitched he was one strike away from a perfect game after retiring the first 26 guys. With a 2-2 count the ump
called the next two picthes as balls. They talked about this once on the sports talk radio I was listening too. I heard the pitches were close
and to this day he still believes the ump (Bruce Froemming) hosed him. I'll agree with Pappas without ever looking at the play. That ump has
made some of the worst mistakes ever. He screwed the Phillies in the 1977 NLCS when Bowa threw out Lopes and he called him safe.
I don't know if he was dreaming about a foot long hoagie or cheesesteak or what....but he really crushed a certain 11/12 year old back
then. Pappas and I will never forgive him for some of his blown calls! And to me if it was close he should of hooked Pappas up. Jerk!

aconte

edited for spelling

RonBurgundy

Let it be clarified that there are several reasons the great Don Drysdale is in the HOF and Milt Pappas is not. But the similarities of their numbers is interesting nonetheless.




RB

SidePocket

Let's face it, Don Drysdale is a very cool name, much more than Milt Pappas.

And he was 6'6" tall and liked to throw at you. Heard he even threw at the on deck hitter once.

Who would you rather hit against?

WinPitcher

Drysdale struckout almost 800 more batters then Pappas in less seasons

Pappas by the way was a pretty good hitting pitcher too. I never realized that he hit 20 hr's.


Drysdale had 29.


Steve

stevek

Perhaps the voters were "afraid" of not voting Drysdale in - Him and Gibson were two of the nastiest pitchers on the mound I've ever seen - when they hit a batter it wouldn't surprise me if they actually enjoyed it.

stevek

And let's face it...it's not like people are beating down the doors to get Don Drysdale cards - unless it's a high grade card for the registry, most of his cards don't hardly sell for chit, compared to many other Hall of Famers.