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Question on 1995 DDO cents- FS-040 / FS-101?

I've noticed a few auctions for 1995 doubled die obverse cents, that coins with FS-101 or FS-040 designation sell for substantially more than those without that designation.

I've included links to both below -- the "regular" DDO in MS67RD shows a price history of around $75, while the FS-101 (FS-040) shows a price history of about $368 in MS67RD. But I have no idea what distinguishes the two. Can anyone help explain?

FS-101 (FS-040) Example


Non FS-101
Dan

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    RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Just bidiots or seller scam artists (more likely) creating a false impression.

    No difference except which registry sets they can be entered into.
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    nycounselnycounsel Posts: 1,229 ✭✭
    If there's no difference, I don't understand why the pop of MS67 is so small or goes for such a big premium. Why wouldn't people just have a few normal MS68s reslabbed?
    Dan
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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    You can submit many CPG varieties without paying for error service (as long as you use the right number) or submit as errors and pay extra.

    Because of that for most of them there are 2 pop listings but to get the real total population you need to add them together.

    The prices being different is mostly illusion. If 90% were submitted one way then most coins sold are in that population. The price guide is updated by sales records. In a market of falling prices those prices update faster with the new lower price or higher price in a rising market.

    Bottom line is the price is based on the bigger population unless a fool buys it blindly based on the price guide.

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    PCGS could fix it by grouping them together in the pop reports and price guides.

    The problem it creates is auction houses like TT often rave about a rare coin with low pop but it's something like a 64RED 95 DDO submitted as an error and they hype it based on the un-combined pop report. image
    Ed
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    GrumpyEd is 100% correct. They are the simply graded under different service levels. I submitted a '55 DDO under 'error service', and it came back 'DDO FS-101 (FS-021.8). My '55 DDO is the 'biggie', but due to the label, well, I freaked. Thanks to help here, from forum members, as well as a visit to Coneca and Coppercoins website's, it all boiled down to my label just having all the info on the error, instead of simply stating 'Doubled Die Obverse'. The people paying bigger money for the label with FS # on it, are bidding without knowledge of it...they simply think it's a rarer variety than a plain DDO.

    Uninformed buyers...but, there's that 'tuition' money often discussed here. Though, when it comes to buying DDO errors, or Tybe B's, etc.....you have to know what you are buying, or you are going to spend WAY too much for a coin. Look at all those people spending big $$ on '72 DDO, that arent the 'biggie'. You HAVE to know what you are bidding on, what you are spending your money on. As has been said thousands of times here, and it's as true as true can be.....knowledge is power. You HAVE to KNOW what you are looking for, unless you are just a 'registry collector' and buy to fill the spot, or upgrade a set...at that point, it's buying the plastic. I don't even feel bad to see someone paying $300 more for that coin. Again, if the buyer had KNOWN (had knowledge), he would have bought/bid the one for $60 instead of $360.
    I'll come up with something, eventually.

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