<< <i> If you have coins or anything of value in your home, a security system is worth every cent. They're not that expensive, I think our monthly outlay is less than an average cable tv bill. >>
Not that expensive - my local cable bill is over $100.00 per month - that is pretty expensive for me!
<< <i>Although I wish harm on no one, especially members of this forum. I have found that the people most excited and "empowered" are the ones in the most need of it. It is not the mental state that is the problem it is the swing. The fear of the unknown/ low esteem often translates into panic at the most inopportune times and results in a flush of adrenalin that makes even the biggest guys almost completely combat ineffective. I do believe in the right to defend one's self but I draw the line differently then you and others. I would give everything I own not to have to shoot someone in front of my family as the mental scars of having someone die in front of them or in their house is not worth even an 1804 dollar or the like and much harder to recover from than a robbery. All it would take is for your loved ones to spend 15min waiting for the police while the guy you shoot stinks up your house after his bowels release and he cries for his life( unless you hit that brilliant head shot that I don't think you will get close enough to take) and you sit there shaking from the rush thinking I will have to spend the next year in court and might not ever sleep right again. For all I know you might be the meanest SOB that has ever walked but by the way you are talking I doubt it very much. The handful of guys who were really did want and look forward to putting holes in people put themselves in a position to do so. Every other person I have heard talk about it in a boastful manner was the same sort of man cares very much what people think but needs to be very careful on who he say it around. If I have you pegged wrong I am truly sorry. >>
Crypto79-
Sorry if my reply to your note was a bit harsh. I had only read the post to which I responded, and not the others at the time of my response. I thought that you were just another thoughtless antigun activist and responded in kind.
Clearly you mean well and are thoughtful in your statements in the above post. Most armed professionals and well trained armed civilians are not looking for fight and, like an advanced martial arts practitioner, would MUCH rather avoid a fight than be in one. That said, if the fight comes to you, a loved one or an innocent a well trained practioner of defensive firearms use will have the mindset to not survive, but to win the confrontation decisively, definitively and quickly. Much of the training involved in defensive firearms use centers around the combat mind-set. In fact, many of the top tactical instructors correctly teach that the most important factors in winning a gunfight, in order, are: mind-set, tactics and lastly weapon selection.
I submit to you that one's family will be much more traumatized by watching their mother/sister raped and beaten than by watching their dad end the fight and save his family. I assure you that this is the case. Better to see the criminal bleed out on the floor than one's mom. Just ask the Physician who watched helplessly a year or two ago while his family was murdered in front of him, with only a child surviving in his home. Imagine the horror of what that child saw. Would the child be better off if his/her dad had shot the killers?
Lt. Col. David Grossman, Ret. is one of THE BEST instructors regarding the combat mind-set that I've ever had the good fortune to study under. He speaks of the sheep (the average civilian's mentality) the wolf (the average violent criminal's mentality) and the sheep dog (the LEO or well trained, armed civilian). Google Lt. Col. Grossman, look at who he instructs. This is a most instructive analogy. With all due respect sir, you are a sheep. Be thankful for the sheepdogs who wear the badge and are willing to go in harms way to keep you safe. Be thankful as well that there are well trained armed citizens out there who may someday do the same for you.
I can assure you that my mother and I are much better off today because of my father's decision to carry a gun and to be very well trained in it's use. My mom watched the robber bleed out on the floor in front of her. She is fine. Both she and my dad are alive as well. This would most likely not be the case if either was a sheep.
Regards, Ron >>
No matter which side of the fence one falls it is wise to never to make a decision based off of the polar extremes. Yes I would agree that no one wants to watch their loved one harmed/raped, but I would say that speaks to a mind set of fear. The facts show that 99% of home robberies happen when no one is home(human nature is to avoid one on one conflicts) and you are just as likely to invoke a flee mentality by yelling and alerting the crook of your presence.. just the facts. Yes something worse could happen but that will always be true. I'm sad to say that more guns are involved in accidental shootings every year than self protection and although I know it is not fair since many people who merely flash their piece never report the incident as a self protection act it speaks that Guns are too easy to get and not enough people get the proper education on the responsibility of owning one. It is even worse in the cities where people live on top of each other and the options of ranges is limited, coupled by the fact that ranges are available often as expensive private clubs out of reach for the avg guy. This leaves us with a population of Janitors-CPA's who haven't been in a fight since grade school able to own a gun too powerful for an urban environment that has been fired only a few times watching Rambo movies thinking it is all so simple to shoot and walk away. I have know of people keeping 45's under their pillow in an apartment building that have never even shot a gun. Talking "I wish someone would break in", That is just as stupid as the jerk who said "I would love to see how they rip flesh" or what dump sh1t that came out of his mouth earlier in this thread. Yes some who uses gun locks around kids and teaches proper usage to their family is great but why are you working and practicing so hard for a 1 in a thousand event that will end up badly no matter how it shakes out. Get out there and live people and trust yourself to handle stuff as it comes up. The left and the right need to put it all on the table. Guns are made for killing. The newer the model=the more efficiently it kills. I truly believe that elephant in the room with the gun issue harkens back to the civil war. There is a portion of the population that does not want and will not be disarmed by the federal Gov as they are raised with a deep seeded mistrust of it. There is always going to be a few survivor hunters and a larger group of sport hunters but that is not the majority of gun owners(based on national hunting permits VS gun sales, not even close to 10% of them).
LOL A dare? To who? For what? I posted it up along with my new buffalo nickel because I know a lot of the guys on here like guns too. What am I daring them to do? Steal from me? Fight me? Shoot me? What? I don't get it.
I have coins. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I post them here cause people here like coins and talk about them frequently.
I have guns. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I posted a picture of one here cause I know a lot of my coin buddies like guns too. I don't think posting a picture of a firearm is anymore challenging than posting a picture of my type set.
My apologies to anyone that felt "challenged" to a "dare" by the picture of my gun in my Christmas present thread.
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It wasn't so much the picture of the gun, as the statement that you got it if anyone tried to steal your coin. >>
Wow. I will be sure to send you a PM in the future alerting you of my plans to use any bit of tongue in cheek, good natured humor so as not to frighten you or make you feel challenged. I would assume (incorrectly apparently) that since you feel familiar enough to address me by name, that you would be at least somewhat familiar with my posting style and or sense of humor.
Besides, don't be an idiot, I wouldn't use a .38 if someone tried to steal a coin. That's why I own .45's! Oh crap, I forgot to warn you a joke was coming.
I've often worried that IF the time came how would our system work to protect us. Glad to see from the OP it WILL work. The big problem with this type of system is when my family is in the house and the system is not on, which is often. Can't open a door or window when it's on, and you have to remember to turn it on/off every time the dog needs to go out or you answer the door etc. We only use the system to guard us and the home contents when we're away or at night. Daytime break-ins are a bit threat. I live in a crime ridden city and I worry about my family when they are home and unalarmed (they are always armed).
<< <i>Although I wish harm on no one, especially members of this forum. I have found that the people most excited and "empowered" are the ones in the most need of it. It is not the mental state that is the problem it is the swing. The fear of the unknown/ low esteem often translates into panic at the most inopportune times and results in a flush of adrenalin that makes even the biggest guys almost completely combat ineffective. I do believe in the right to defend one's self but I draw the line differently then you and others. I would give everything I own not to have to shoot someone in front of my family as the mental scars of having someone die in front of them or in their house is not worth even an 1804 dollar or the like and much harder to recover from than a robbery. All it would take is for your loved ones to spend 15min waiting for the police while the guy you shoot stinks up your house after his bowels release and he cries for his life( unless you hit that brilliant head shot that I don't think you will get close enough to take) and you sit there shaking from the rush thinking I will have to spend the next year in court and might not ever sleep right again. For all I know you might be the meanest SOB that has ever walked but by the way you are talking I doubt it very much. The handful of guys who were really did want and look forward to putting holes in people put themselves in a position to do so. Every other person I have heard talk about it in a boastful manner was the same sort of man cares very much what people think but needs to be very careful on who he say it around. If I have you pegged wrong I am truly sorry. >>
Crypto79-
Sorry if my reply to your note was a bit harsh. I had only read the post to which I responded, and not the others at the time of my response. I thought that you were just another thoughtless antigun activist and responded in kind.
Clearly you mean well and are thoughtful in your statements in the above post. Most armed professionals and well trained armed civilians are not looking for fight and, like an advanced martial arts practitioner, would MUCH rather avoid a fight than be in one. That said, if the fight comes to you, a loved one or an innocent a well trained practioner of defensive firearms use will have the mindset to not survive, but to win the confrontation decisively, definitively and quickly. Much of the training involved in defensive firearms use centers around the combat mind-set. In fact, many of the top tactical instructors correctly teach that the most important factors in winning a gunfight, in order, are: mind-set, tactics and lastly weapon selection.
I submit to you that one's family will be much more traumatized by watching their mother/sister raped and beaten than by watching their dad end the fight and save his family. I assure you that this is the case. Better to see the criminal bleed out on the floor than one's mom. Just ask the Physician who watched helplessly a year or two ago while his family was murdered in front of him, with only a child surviving in his home. Imagine the horror of what that child saw. Would the child be better off if his/her dad had shot the killers?
Lt. Col. David Grossman, Ret. is one of THE BEST instructors regarding the combat mind-set that I've ever had the good fortune to study under. He speaks of the sheep (the average civilian's mentality) the wolf (the average violent criminal's mentality) and the sheep dog (the LEO or well trained, armed civilian). Google Lt. Col. Grossman, look at who he instructs. This is a most instructive analogy. With all due respect sir, you are a sheep. Be thankful for the sheepdogs who wear the badge and are willing to go in harms way to keep you safe. Be thankful as well that there are well trained armed citizens out there who may someday do the same for you.
I can assure you that my mother and I are much better off today because of my father's decision to carry a gun and to be very well trained in it's use. My mom watched the robber bleed out on the floor in front of her. She is fine. Both she and my dad are alive as well. This would most likely not be the case if either was a sheep.
Regards, Ron >>
No matter which side of the fence one falls it is wise to never to make a decision based off of the polar extremes. Yes I would agree that no one wants to watch their loved one harmed/raped, but I would say that speaks to a mind set of fear. The facts show that 99% of home robberies happen when no one is home(human nature is to avoid one on one conflicts) and you are just as likely to invoke a flee mentality by yelling and alerting the crook of your presence.. just the facts. Yes something worse could happen but that will always be true. I'm sad to say that more guns are involved in accidental shootings every year than self protection and although I know it is not fair since many people who merely flash their piece never report the incident as a self protection act it speaks that Guns are too easy to get and not enough people get the proper education on the responsibility of owning one. It is even worse in the cities where people live on top of each other and the options of ranges is limited, coupled by the fact that ranges are available often as expensive private clubs out of reach for the avg guy. This leaves us with a population of Janitors-CPA's who haven't been in a fight since grade school able to own a gun too powerful for an urban environment that has been fired only a few times watching Rambo movies thinking it is all so simple to shoot and walk away. I have know of people keeping 45's under their pillow in an apartment building that have never even shot a gun. Talking "I wish someone would break in", That is just as stupid as the jerk who said "I would love to see how they rip flesh" or what dump sh1t that came out of his mouth earlier in this thread. Yes some who uses gun locks around kids and teaches proper usage to their family is great but why are you working and practicing so hard for a 1 in a thousand event that will end up badly no matter how it shakes out. Get out there and live people and trust yourself to handle stuff as it comes up. The left and the right need to put it all on the table. Guns are made for killing. The newer the model=the more efficiently it kills. I truly believe that elephant in the room with the gun issue harkens back to the civil war. There is a portion of the population that does not want and will not be disarmed by the federal Gov as they are raised with a deep seeded mistrust of it. There is always going to be a few survivor hunters and a larger group of sport hunters but that is not the majority of gun owners(based on national hunting permits VS gun sales, not even close to 10% of them). >>
Crypto-
Too short on time to reply in detail (wow, this thread has veered off the original course).
Your above paragraph with a few exceptions (i.e., the usual anti-gun stats ignore the instances where the presence of a gun stops/deters the crime) sounds like it was written by the Brady Bunch media office. Your utter lack of technical knowledge for someone so outspoken about guns is astounding (newer model = more efficiently it kills - please explain this...). How do you know so much about what motivates gun owners to own guns when you hate guns and most likely don't associate with gun owners? The VAST majority of firearm owners do so for self defense, NOT hunting. In fact neigher I, nor most of my usual shooting buddies, fellow LE oficers, or co-competitors hunt.
We do many things in life to prepare for very low probablity threats. Total value home insurance (how often is a home totaled), fire drills (how often is there a substanital fire in a public building), term life insurance for young adults (there is a reason that a 40 year old can get $1M of coverage dirt cheap), etc. Home invasions are indeed rare. Why be helpless?
Interestingly, morbidity, mortality and the cost to society attributable to smoking and drinking ETOH is many, many orders of magnitude greater than that attributable to firearms. Neither smoking nor etoh can save your life, put food on the table, protect your family, be participated in via many sporting discliplines, etc. yet folks like yourself focus so much energy on banning guns yet not on banning smoking or drinking.
Finally, it is precisely the cities and urban areas where one MOST needs a gun! As you know, areas with the highest per capita gun ownership tend to have the lowest gun crime and vice versa. The criminals will always get the guns. The Brady Bunch, et. al. work to disarm the law abiding citizen. This will have no effect on disarming crinimals, just making their job safer.
As to fear, trusing yourself to act in a situation, etc. It's a dangerous world, just read the crime section. As to trust yourself in a situation? Absent training, the average person faced with the threat of violence will simply cower, paralyzed with fear, at the total mercy of the thug. No thanks. We all should take some INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY for being able defend ourselves and our families.
No matter which side of the fence one falls it is wise to never to make a decision based off of the polar extremes. Yes I would agree that no one wants to watch their loved one harmed/raped. Talking "I wish someone would break in".
That is just as stupid as the jerk who said "I would love to see how they rip flesh" or what dump sh1t that came out of his mouth earlier in this thread.
Yes some who uses gun locks around kids and teaches proper usage to their family is great but why are you working and practicing so hard for a 1 in a thousand event that will end up badly no matter how it shakes out.
Crypto 79. Please understand this for the final time. As your responses to your theory is Ok with me and others on here about guns. But you can't keep saying If I pegged you wrong I'm sorry. It's ok to practice safe gun ways with your family. Then you go on and still call me a "JERK" a "INBRED". Read below further.
You need a friend my non friend. Please reach down inside and stand tall in life for what you believe in, but don't call people names that are not even close to the truth about them.
You are preaching to the choir! Don't sit in the middle of that fence and say this or that and then say you are sorry.
Lastly one's man home is his paradise, his place of comfort is to keep his family out of the cold and the wrongs that go on every minute of the day/night in this world is not my problem my duty is to protect mine.
Crypto 79 we live in the U.S. and I want you to remember this my non friend. We have rights to bear arms within our plantation/home.
So again as I do carry a concealment permit for working in law enforcement during my spree as a undercover secruity agent for a large retail chain in Maryland, arresting Aholes that are too lazy to get a job or lack of their well being want to hussle other people in life is not valid in my world. Yes I chose this but hell some people like me, my family loves me and although I can't spell or express my thoughts on here the right way is oh well I'll live with it.
I will tell you one more time, just one more ok Cypto, it doesn't matter how you look at me or anyone else that believe in protection of ones self or family, but they do have the "RIGHT TO PROTECT ONES DOMAIN AND EVERYTHING WITHIN ONES DOMAIN"
Your preaching will not be heard unless you really understand the laws of our land. Do you know what kind of person you have to be to go through the Feds and the state of Maryland Polices background checks to receive a gun permit Cypto? Your harsh name calling about me is just plain childish and not real from someone that has any brains.
I really hope you don't go to Texas or Arizona were people can carry a gun with them where ever they go and with your thought process is boy or boy that's just not right, how can anyone be so stupid to carry a gun like that out in public. The reason is there is so much scum in this world and our country that we live in I, for one will not stand by and let these wolves bite/hurt me or my family. You don't know what I have gone through to protect employees the prices of the food you eat in stores and also myself in the past. Every law enforcement person has reminded me of my rights, many Judges have stated to this scum suckers how lucky they were that they were not shot or killed during their robbery/stealing of items for which they are in front of the Judge that day when he is trying to reason sense into these people.
So please understand this. As to me wanted to see flesh, what do you think is going to happen? I hunt deer, rabbits, bear and elk. What do you think will happen to the flesh of a human?
It's just a figure of speech that I meant. Good Luck with your travels in life Cypto but don't come on here or anyone else and demeanor someone's self worth when you don't even know me.
Now lets talk about coins Cypto but please not those silly Redskins.LOL
LOL A dare? To who? For what? I posted it up along with my new buffalo nickel because I know a lot of the guys on here like guns too. What am I daring them to do? Steal from me? Fight me? Shoot me? What? I don't get it.
I have coins. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I post them here cause people here like coins and talk about them frequently.
I have guns. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I posted a picture of one here cause I know a lot of my coin buddies like guns too. I don't think posting a picture of a firearm is anymore challenging than posting a picture of my type set.
My apologies to anyone that felt "challenged" to a "dare" by the picture of my gun in my Christmas present thread.
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It wasn't so much the picture of the gun, as the statement that you got it if anyone tried to steal your coin. >>
Wow. I will be sure to send you a PM in the future alerting you of my plans to use any bit of tongue in cheek, good natured humor so as not to frighten you or make you feel challenged. I would assume (incorrectly apparently) that since you feel familiar enough to address me by name, that you would be at least somewhat familiar with my posting style and or sense of humor.
Besides, don't be an idiot, I wouldn't use a .38 if someone tried to steal a coin. That's why I own .45's! Oh crap, I forgot to warn you a joke was coming. >>
I dunno how familiar enough I am to you or vice versa, but it does say in your profile that your name is Eric ...
Does it involve large bear traps and high voltage electricity?
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<< <i>It's good to hear that things turned out mostly okay and it sounded like the Alameda Police responded quickly and investigated the incident thoroughly.
I guess it's also good to hear that the Alameda Police actually did something relevant. I'm still not a fan of the department ever since about three years ago they issued me a citation (not a ticket or moving violation) while driving on Park Street that required a court appearance and a fine of $145. Apparently making U-turns in a car is unlawful and an expensive misdemeanor in Alameda. >>
I'm sorry you had such a hassle. I'm surprised it wasn't just a moving violation.
There's a joke in Alameda: "Don't drive 26 miles per hour, it's just not worth the ticket."
I use my cruise control on long streets like Santa Clara. They also bust for "California Stops" -- rolling through a stop sign.
The rapport between the citizens and cops in Alameda is pretty good, and the police tend not to go "RESPECT MAH AUHTORAHTAH". I hope it stays that way.
Crypto, why don't you shove it up your arse, first check my sig line, second I never really broadcasted it here but I was home, as was my fiance at the time along with a friend, we were actually making a coin trade when a perp kicked in the front door, armed with a glock, I immediately dispatched the perp with 3 rounds from my glock 19, turn out this poor guy who was left dying and stinking on my floor was responsible for several home invasions including a murder the week prior at an aparment complex. So f$#k off, I would be dead had I not had my gun in my holster. A holes like you want to make it easy for the gov't to come in and regulate what I do in my own house under the second amendment. If you want to be a victim, that is your choice, but how dare you criticize anyone using their second amendment rights. As for being a rambo, nope, but I have been there and done that, I have had 7 bullets removed from my body to protect your rights to post your liberal garbage here!
<< <i>Crypto, why don't you shove it up your arse, first check my sig line, second I never really broadcasted it here but I was home, as was my fiance at the time along with a friend, we were actually making a coin trade when a perp kicked in the front door, armed with a glock, I immediately dispatched the perp with 3 rounds from my glock 19, turn out this poor guy who was left dying and stinking on my floor was responsible for several home invasions including a murder the week prior at an aparment complex. So f$#k off, I would be dead had I not had my gun in my holster. A holes like you want to make it easy for the gov't to come in and regulate what I do in my own house under the second amendment. If you want to be a victim, that is your choice, but how dare you criticize anyone using their second amendment rights. As for being a rambo, nope, but I have been there and done that, I have had 7 bullets removed from my body to protect your rights to post your liberal garbage here! >>
No High Speed, I will shove it up your arse. I had 6 plus years in 5th group SFG(A) pulling dozens of little punks like you out of harm's way, if you were even a gunner for BlackWater( might be a cook,your style smells like a cook). You chose to take the BlackWater route where I chose the "suit and tie" approach after service. I did state the hicks who get off on putting holes in people find a way to do so(Armed services, Black ops contractors ect.). But I would simply state that your puppy love for fire arms hasn't made you safer( Hence the cute little 7 stitch zipper added to your frame) and I do not think the perps over in hostile fire zones making 200 grand are all that heroic or smart. They do it for the money not their country because they can't figure any other way to make more than MIN wage back home. 7 7.62 rounds to your body????? Haven't seen to many people walk away from that! me think you are full of it. Maybe it was 5.56 from one of your buddies. With your attitude, that sounds about right to me. What happens outside the green zone stays there! Calm down Rambo, go get a job as a border patrol maybe you can take out a full family. Also if you didn't live in a trailer park maybe people wouldn't kick down your door with a Glock( nice gun for a common robber?). To keep this coin related, that's my two cents, Hero...
<< <i>You sir; are sick. I find it hard to believe that there are inbred gun nuts like you in the fine state of Maryland. I hope one day you are faced with the dilemma of having to use your sidearm. Then and only then will we find out if your bravado has even a little merit. With people like you it rarely does. >>
Typical response from a liberal gun grabber who would rather be a victim than defend himself or his family. Why don't you break into his house and find out. >>
+1,000,000, always the victim those libs.
I also recommend NOT getting brinks. They are proprietary. Almost all other systems use Ademco alarms which any company can monitor. We have Guardian which also uses Ademco. With Brinks, you are stuck with Brinks forever.
<< <i>You sir; are sick. I find it hard to believe that there are inbred gun nuts like you in the fine state of Maryland. I hope one day you are faced with the dilemma of having to use your sidearm. Then and only then will we find out if your bravado has even a little merit. With people like you it rarely does. >>
Typical response from a liberal gun grabber who would rather be a victim than defend himself or his family. Why don't you break into his house and find out. >>
+1,000,000, always the victim those libs.
I also recommend NOT getting brinks. They are proprietary. Almost all other systems use Ademco alarms which any company can monitor. We have Guardian which also uses Ademco. With Brinks, you are stuck with Brinks forever. >>
I don't understand you theory. Why pay huge $$$ to have you home wired from a company like Guardian or ADT. Brinks was free. I have had two false alarms in 6 years and the police both times were here in 4/5 minutes.
Our local company that uses Ademco are very slow, my sister and another neighbor down the road has them. I was first call for my sister's contact and took at least 5 minutes to call me then I told them to call the police. Last time we checked the time they called and police arrived at my sisters house was 13 minutes. That's way too long.
Also false alarms here in Charles County are $150 a pop after 2 freebies.
Cryto you are really showing how small you are. Every person that had something to say against your wisdom shouldn't be put down. Maybe if you state your purpose without the childish name calling things would be a lot better for ya.
As for you serving over in Iraq, don't put down or mock another hero, Mr Zero, real soldiers don't respond to other soldiers like you just did. We know who is really hiding behind the supply truck crying for momma. You are really a live one my nonfriend.
<< <i> I don't understand you theory. Why pay huge $$$ to have you home wired from a company like Guardian or ADT. Brinks was free. I have had two false alarms in 6 years and the police both times were here in 4/5 minutes.
Our local company that uses Ademco are very slow, my sister and another neighbor down the road has them. I was first call for my sister's contact and took at least 5 minutes to call me then I told them to call the police. Last time we checked the time they called and police arrived at my sisters house was 13 minutes. That's way too long.
Also false alarms here in Charles County are $150 a pop after 2 freebies.
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We had multiple quotes, including Brinks, whose main selling point btw, was that they were "Brinks". They were all about the same. Free for the basic package, more from there. We ended up paying around $700 for everything. Almost all sensors are wireless.
I'm sure Brinks service is great, and realistically, word of mouth is the most important thing and chances are you will not change servicers, I just like to have options . We've had about 4 false alarms and Montgomery County I think is the same as Charles (My parents live in Waldorf).
Guardian calls immediately and the one time when the Emergency button on the remote was pressed by mistake, the cops were there within 5 minutes. (when seconds count, the police are only minutes away)
<< <i> I don't understand you theory. Why pay huge $$$ to have you home wired from a company like Guardian or ADT. Brinks was free. I have had two false alarms in 6 years and the police both times were here in 4/5 minutes.
Our local company that uses Ademco are very slow, my sister and another neighbor down the road has them. I was first call for my sister's contact and took at least 5 minutes to call me then I told them to call the police. Last time we checked the time they called and police arrived at my sisters house was 13 minutes. That's way too long.
Also false alarms here in Charles County are $150 a pop after 2 freebies.
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We had multiple quotes, including Brinks, whose main selling point btw, was that they were "Brinks". They were all about the same. Free for the basic package, more from there. We ended up paying around $700 for everything. Almost all sensors are wireless.
I'm sure Brinks service is great, and realistically, word of mouth is the most important thing and chances are you will not change servicers, I just like to have options . We've had about 4 false alarms and Montgomery County I think is the same as Charles (My parents live in Waldorf).
Guardian calls immediately and the one time when the Emergency button on the remote was pressed by mistake, the cops were there within 5 minutes. (when seconds count, the police are only minutes away) >>
I never said I wouldn't change. I just know Brinks did me good, I don't know how much it is nowadays, Brinks even had refer a friend. Lastly you wouldn't believe what I pay a month for service. $23.99 when they hooked up it was $19.99. Also since I have stupid Comcast my phone line cannot be cut, so all sensors will work. Last thing I told brinks if they wanted my business that all wiring must be free so my house is pretty safe. Oh I even have a back up line in my MAGIC JACK, just in case of power failure my batteries are good for 2 hrs.
So again I think your system and mothers system here in Charles County is fine, I had brinks for years now, and a good product is hard to find.
The "Gun" and "Anti-Gun" thing is getting as bad as the "PCGS" vs "NGC" thing! Personally, I think criminals using guns ought to be strung up on their first offense. That would solve the whole issue, make the scum think twice, or rid ourselves of them. I certainly have nothing against law abiding citizens owning guns.
<< <i>Crypto, why don't you shove it up your arse, first check my sig line, second I never really broadcasted it here but I was home, as was my fiance at the time along with a friend, we were actually making a coin trade when a perp kicked in the front door, armed with a glock, I immediately dispatched the perp with 3 rounds from my glock 19, turn out this poor guy who was left dying and stinking on my floor was responsible for several home invasions including a murder the week prior at an aparment complex. So f$#k off, I would be dead had I not had my gun in my holster. A holes like you want to make it easy for the gov't to come in and regulate what I do in my own house under the second amendment. If you want to be a victim, that is your choice, but how dare you criticize anyone using their second amendment rights. As for being a rambo, nope, but I have been there and done that, I have had 7 bullets removed from my body to protect your rights to post your liberal garbage here! >>
No High Speed, I will shove it up your arse. I had 6 plus years in 5th group SFG(A) pulling dozens of little punks like you out of harm's way, if you were even a gunner for BlackWater( might be a cook,your style smells like a cook). You chose to take the BlackWater route where I chose the "suit and tie" approach after service. I did state the hicks who get off on putting holes in people find a way to do so(Armed services, Black ops contractors ect.). But I would simply state that your puppy love for fire arms hasn't made you safer( Hence the cute little 7 stitch zipper added to your frame) and I do not think the perps over in hostile fire zones making 200 grand are all that heroic or smart. They do it for the money not their country because they can't figure any other way to make more than MIN wage back home. 7 7.62 rounds to your body????? Haven't seen to many people walk away from that! me think you are full of it. Maybe it was 5.56 from one of your buddies. With your attitude, that sounds about right to me. What happens outside the green zone stays there! Calm down Rambo, go get a job as a border patrol maybe you can take out a full family. Also if you didn't live in a trailer park maybe people wouldn't kick down your door with a Glock( nice gun for a common robber?). To keep this coin related, that's my two cents, Hero... >>
A few months ago , I received my permit to carry . Since then , a weapon has been on me wherever I went . Home , stores , banks , post office ,place of employment , coin shows etc . As I got comfortable with this , I realized the ABC'c of being able to do this . I do not carry all the time , but often .
A Its good to have , and I'm glad I do .
B I do not wish to ever have to use it .
C Have no idea if confronted , that I would be passive , or just empty a 9 round clip , eject , and snap another clip in and keep going .
<< <i>A few months ago , I received my permit to carry . Since then , a weapon has been on me wherever I went . Home , stores , banks , post office ,place of employment , coin shows etc . As I got comfortable with this , I realized the ABC'c of being able to do this . I do not carry all the time , but often .
A Its good to have , and I'm glad I do .
B I do not wish to ever have to use it .
C Have no idea if confronted , that I would be passive , or just empty a 9 round clip , eject , and snap another clip in and keep going .
Interesting , HuH ? >>
Lets see I thought we were talking about HOME INVASIONS?
I think you should rethink the reason you have the gun. I do carry mine out in the world, but I would never take the law in my own hands.
That gun on your person should be like a part of your well being. We will never know what circumstance might become of us but common sense would tell you when to use it.
I have pointed my gun at maybe 5 people in my years while working at my job and believe me there are no heros. Each and everytime you could here a pin drop. Most people that are confronted when there is a gun in your line of sight obey.
I have been held up twice earlier in my career in Washington Dc and had given them what they wanted, was I scared "YES" but I was learning the fear he robber had in them. No one wants to be involved of a standoff, but I'm older, wiser, and know my rights more today then 20 years ago.
Please guys/gals this is a serious issue, we can go round and round. It's not a game. Prepare yourself with knowledge, take some gun safety training courses, go to self defense courses and learn your laws within your states.
Things are the worst they have been in years. Do you know that over 70% of shootings and murders are never reported in the papers or news? There is a high percentage of home invasions daily in the area you live in and unless you press the information for the law enforcement agencys you'll never know.
I pray to GOD each and everyday for his love and protection of the closet people that are close to me. But I know he will make me stronger when someone comes on my 5 acre property with No Tresspassing signs and decides to enter my domain. I am doing not only me a favor but you and your family a favor. 'SEE NO EVIL, FEAR NO EVIL'
<< <i>You sir; are sick. I find it hard to believe that there are inbred gun nuts like you in the fine state of Maryland. I hope one day you are faced with the dilemma of having to use your sidearm. Then and only then will we find out if your bravado has even a little merit. With people like you it rarely does. >>
The "dilemma of having to use your sidearm" I guess you'd rather be dead than facing that dilemma?
I tried to end this but there are some wackjobs that won’t let this die. My whole point was if you go looking for trouble you will likely find it and most gun owners are not prepared to use there weapon or deal with the consequences. Never said people shouldn't defend them self’s, never said guns should be outlawed (except maybe to stupid people). If you glorify a weapon, when a trying time presents it's self it is human nature to maybe think it is the best option when it should probably be a much later choice depending on whats going down. I will never know why this doesn’t get poofed.. CAC CAC CAC CAC is GREAT CAC is better the PCGS
How is keeping a firearm in your house "looking for trouble"? I don't know if you are referring to me as a wack job or not but I've been gone and didn't see this thread until now.
I think it's pretty wacky to not to want to protect yourself though.
<< <i>Thinking a gun is the best/only way to defend your house does. >>
What other alternatives are there if there is a home invasion?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
To be fair, I think dogs do a pretty good job at reducing the odds of a home invasion. I choose german & belgian shepherds. They're very sweet at appropriate times and very loud at appropriate times.
We have a 100 lb lab too, but she just tries to get in their car and go for a ride. The UPS guy has to keep the truck door shut or she'll be in his seat when he goes to leave!
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If you have coins or anything of value in your home, a security system is worth every cent. They're not that expensive, I think our monthly outlay is less than an average cable tv bill.
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Not that expensive - my local cable bill is over $100.00 per month - that is pretty expensive for me!
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<< <i>Although I wish harm on no one, especially members of this forum. I have found that the people most excited and "empowered" are the ones in the most need of it. It is not the mental state that is the problem it is the swing. The fear of the unknown/ low esteem often translates into panic at the most inopportune times and results in a flush of adrenalin that makes even the biggest guys almost completely combat ineffective. I do believe in the right to defend one's self but I draw the line differently then you and others. I would give everything I own not to have to shoot someone in front of my family as the mental scars of having someone die in front of them or in their house is not worth even an 1804 dollar or the like and much harder to recover from than a robbery. All it would take is for your loved ones to spend 15min waiting for the police while the guy you shoot stinks up your house after his bowels release and he cries for his life( unless you hit that brilliant head shot that I don't think you will get close enough to take) and you sit there shaking from the rush thinking I will have to spend the next year in court and might not ever sleep right again. For all I know you might be the meanest SOB that has ever walked but by the way you are talking I doubt it very much. The handful of guys who were really did want and look forward to putting holes in people put themselves in a position to do so. Every other person I have heard talk about it in a boastful manner was the same sort of man cares very much what people think but needs to be very careful on who he say it around. If I have you pegged wrong I am truly sorry. >>
Crypto79-
Sorry if my reply to your note was a bit harsh. I had only read the post to which I responded, and not the others at the time of my response. I thought that you were just another thoughtless antigun activist and responded in kind.
Clearly you mean well and are thoughtful in your statements in the above post. Most armed professionals and well trained armed civilians are not looking for fight and, like an advanced martial arts practitioner, would MUCH rather avoid a fight than be in one. That said, if the fight comes to you, a loved one or an innocent a well trained practioner of defensive firearms use will have the mindset to not survive, but to win the confrontation decisively, definitively and quickly. Much of the training involved in defensive firearms use centers around the combat mind-set. In fact, many of the top tactical instructors correctly teach that the most important factors in winning a gunfight, in order, are: mind-set, tactics and lastly weapon selection.
I submit to you that one's family will be much more traumatized by watching their mother/sister raped and beaten than by watching their dad end the fight and save his family. I assure you that this is the case. Better to see the criminal bleed out on the floor than one's mom. Just ask the Physician who watched helplessly a year or two ago while his family was murdered in front of him, with only a child surviving in his home. Imagine the horror of what that child saw. Would the child be better off if his/her dad had shot the killers?
Lt. Col. David Grossman, Ret. is one of THE BEST instructors regarding the combat mind-set that I've ever had the good fortune to study under. He speaks of the sheep (the average civilian's mentality) the wolf (the average violent criminal's mentality) and the sheep dog (the LEO or well trained, armed civilian). Google Lt. Col. Grossman, look at who he instructs. This is a most instructive analogy. With all due respect sir, you are a sheep. Be thankful for the sheepdogs who wear the badge and are willing to go in harms way to keep you safe. Be thankful as well that there are well trained armed citizens out there who may someday do the same for you.
I can assure you that my mother and I are much better off today because of my father's decision to carry a gun and to be very well trained in it's use. My mom watched the robber bleed out on the floor in front of her. She is fine. Both she and my dad are alive as well. This would most likely not be the case if either was a sheep.
Regards, Ron >>
No matter which side of the fence one falls it is wise to never to make a decision based off of the polar extremes. Yes I would agree that no one wants to watch their loved one harmed/raped, but I would say that speaks to a mind set of fear. The facts show that 99% of home robberies happen when no one is home(human nature is to avoid one on one conflicts) and you are just as likely to invoke a flee mentality by yelling and alerting the crook of your presence.. just the facts. Yes something worse could happen but that will always be true. I'm sad to say that more guns are involved in accidental shootings every year than self protection and although I know it is not fair since many people who merely flash their piece never report the incident as a self protection act it speaks that Guns are too easy to get and not enough people get the proper education on the responsibility of owning one. It is even worse in the cities where people live on top of each other and the options of ranges is limited, coupled by the fact that ranges are available often as expensive private clubs out of reach for the avg guy. This leaves us with a population of Janitors-CPA's who haven't been in a fight since grade school able to own a gun too powerful for an urban environment that has been fired only a few times watching Rambo movies thinking it is all so simple to shoot and walk away. I have know of people keeping 45's under their pillow in an apartment building that have never even shot a gun. Talking "I wish someone would break in", That is just as stupid as the jerk who said "I would love to see how they rip flesh" or what dump sh1t that came out of his mouth earlier in this thread. Yes some who uses gun locks around kids and teaches proper usage to their family is great but why are you working and practicing so hard for a 1 in a thousand event that will end up badly no matter how it shakes out. Get out there and live people and trust yourself to handle stuff as it comes up. The left and the right need to put it all on the table. Guns are made for killing. The newer the model=the more efficiently it kills. I truly believe that elephant in the room with the gun issue harkens back to the civil war. There is a portion of the population that does not want and will not be disarmed by the federal Gov as they are raised with a deep seeded mistrust of it. There is always going to be a few survivor hunters and a larger group of sport hunters but that is not the majority of gun owners(based on national hunting permits VS gun sales, not even close to 10% of them).
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LOL A dare? To who? For what? I posted it up along with my new buffalo nickel because I know a lot of the guys on here like guns too. What am I daring them to do? Steal from me? Fight me? Shoot me? What? I don't get it.
I have coins. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I post them here cause people here like coins and talk about them frequently.
I have guns. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I posted a picture of one here cause I know a lot of my coin buddies like guns too. I don't think posting a picture of a firearm is anymore challenging than posting a picture of my type set.
My apologies to anyone that felt "challenged" to a "dare" by the picture of my gun in my Christmas present thread.
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It wasn't so much the picture of the gun, as the statement that you got it if anyone tried to steal your coin. >>
Wow. I will be sure to send you a PM in the future alerting you of my plans to use any bit of tongue in cheek, good natured humor so as not to frighten you or make you feel challenged. I would assume (incorrectly apparently) that since you feel familiar enough to address me by name, that you would be at least somewhat familiar with my posting style and or sense of humor.
Besides, don't be an idiot, I wouldn't use a .38 if someone tried to steal a coin. That's why I own .45's! Oh crap, I forgot to warn you a joke was coming.
Coin to remind myself this is a coin board.
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<< <i>Although I wish harm on no one, especially members of this forum. I have found that the people most excited and "empowered" are the ones in the most need of it. It is not the mental state that is the problem it is the swing. The fear of the unknown/ low esteem often translates into panic at the most inopportune times and results in a flush of adrenalin that makes even the biggest guys almost completely combat ineffective. I do believe in the right to defend one's self but I draw the line differently then you and others. I would give everything I own not to have to shoot someone in front of my family as the mental scars of having someone die in front of them or in their house is not worth even an 1804 dollar or the like and much harder to recover from than a robbery. All it would take is for your loved ones to spend 15min waiting for the police while the guy you shoot stinks up your house after his bowels release and he cries for his life( unless you hit that brilliant head shot that I don't think you will get close enough to take) and you sit there shaking from the rush thinking I will have to spend the next year in court and might not ever sleep right again. For all I know you might be the meanest SOB that has ever walked but by the way you are talking I doubt it very much. The handful of guys who were really did want and look forward to putting holes in people put themselves in a position to do so. Every other person I have heard talk about it in a boastful manner was the same sort of man cares very much what people think but needs to be very careful on who he say it around. If I have you pegged wrong I am truly sorry. >>
Crypto79-
Sorry if my reply to your note was a bit harsh. I had only read the post to which I responded, and not the others at the time of my response. I thought that you were just another thoughtless antigun activist and responded in kind.
Clearly you mean well and are thoughtful in your statements in the above post. Most armed professionals and well trained armed civilians are not looking for fight and, like an advanced martial arts practitioner, would MUCH rather avoid a fight than be in one. That said, if the fight comes to you, a loved one or an innocent a well trained practioner of defensive firearms use will have the mindset to not survive, but to win the confrontation decisively, definitively and quickly. Much of the training involved in defensive firearms use centers around the combat mind-set. In fact, many of the top tactical instructors correctly teach that the most important factors in winning a gunfight, in order, are: mind-set, tactics and lastly weapon selection.
I submit to you that one's family will be much more traumatized by watching their mother/sister raped and beaten than by watching their dad end the fight and save his family. I assure you that this is the case. Better to see the criminal bleed out on the floor than one's mom. Just ask the Physician who watched helplessly a year or two ago while his family was murdered in front of him, with only a child surviving in his home. Imagine the horror of what that child saw. Would the child be better off if his/her dad had shot the killers?
Lt. Col. David Grossman, Ret. is one of THE BEST instructors regarding the combat mind-set that I've ever had the good fortune to study under. He speaks of the sheep (the average civilian's mentality) the wolf (the average violent criminal's mentality) and the sheep dog (the LEO or well trained, armed civilian). Google Lt. Col. Grossman, look at who he instructs. This is a most instructive analogy. With all due respect sir, you are a sheep. Be thankful for the sheepdogs who wear the badge and are willing to go in harms way to keep you safe. Be thankful as well that there are well trained armed citizens out there who may someday do the same for you.
I can assure you that my mother and I are much better off today because of my father's decision to carry a gun and to be very well trained in it's use. My mom watched the robber bleed out on the floor in front of her. She is fine. Both she and my dad are alive as well. This would most likely not be the case if either was a sheep.
Regards, Ron >>
No matter which side of the fence one falls it is wise to never to make a decision based off of the polar extremes. Yes I would agree that no one wants to watch their loved one harmed/raped, but I would say that speaks to a mind set of fear. The facts show that 99% of home robberies happen when no one is home(human nature is to avoid one on one conflicts) and you are just as likely to invoke a flee mentality by yelling and alerting the crook of your presence.. just the facts. Yes something worse could happen but that will always be true. I'm sad to say that more guns are involved in accidental shootings every year than self protection and although I know it is not fair since many people who merely flash their piece never report the incident as a self protection act it speaks that Guns are too easy to get and not enough people get the proper education on the responsibility of owning one. It is even worse in the cities where people live on top of each other and the options of ranges is limited, coupled by the fact that ranges are available often as expensive private clubs out of reach for the avg guy. This leaves us with a population of Janitors-CPA's who haven't been in a fight since grade school able to own a gun too powerful for an urban environment that has been fired only a few times watching Rambo movies thinking it is all so simple to shoot and walk away. I have know of people keeping 45's under their pillow in an apartment building that have never even shot a gun. Talking "I wish someone would break in", That is just as stupid as the jerk who said "I would love to see how they rip flesh" or what dump sh1t that came out of his mouth earlier in this thread. Yes some who uses gun locks around kids and teaches proper usage to their family is great but why are you working and practicing so hard for a 1 in a thousand event that will end up badly no matter how it shakes out. Get out there and live people and trust yourself to handle stuff as it comes up. The left and the right need to put it all on the table. Guns are made for killing. The newer the model=the more efficiently it kills. I truly believe that elephant in the room with the gun issue harkens back to the civil war. There is a portion of the population that does not want and will not be disarmed by the federal Gov as they are raised with a deep seeded mistrust of it. There is always going to be a few survivor hunters and a larger group of sport hunters but that is not the majority of gun owners(based on national hunting permits VS gun sales, not even close to 10% of them). >>
Crypto-
Too short on time to reply in detail (wow, this thread has veered off the original course).
Your above paragraph with a few exceptions (i.e., the usual anti-gun stats ignore the instances where the presence of a gun stops/deters the crime) sounds like it was written by the Brady Bunch media office. Your utter lack of technical knowledge for someone so outspoken about guns is astounding (newer model = more efficiently it kills - please explain this...). How do you know so much about what motivates gun owners to own guns when you hate guns and most likely don't associate with gun owners? The VAST majority of firearm owners do so for self defense, NOT hunting. In fact neigher I, nor most of my usual shooting buddies, fellow LE oficers, or co-competitors hunt.
We do many things in life to prepare for very low probablity threats. Total value home insurance (how often is a home totaled), fire drills (how often is there a substanital fire in a public building), term life insurance for young adults (there is a reason that a 40 year old can get $1M of coverage dirt cheap), etc. Home invasions are indeed rare. Why be helpless?
Interestingly, morbidity, mortality and the cost to society attributable to smoking and drinking ETOH is many, many orders of magnitude greater than that attributable to firearms. Neither smoking nor etoh can save your life, put food on the table, protect your family, be participated in via many sporting discliplines, etc. yet folks like yourself focus so much energy on banning guns yet not on banning smoking or drinking.
Finally, it is precisely the cities and urban areas where one MOST needs a gun! As you know, areas with the highest per capita gun ownership tend to have the lowest gun crime and vice versa. The criminals will always get the guns. The Brady Bunch, et. al. work to disarm the law abiding citizen. This will have no effect on disarming crinimals, just making their job safer.
As to fear, trusing yourself to act in a situation, etc. It's a dangerous world, just read the crime section. As to trust yourself in a situation? Absent training, the average person faced with the threat of violence will simply cower, paralyzed with fear, at the total mercy of the thug. No thanks. We all should take some INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY for being able defend ourselves and our families.
Crypto79-
No matter which side of the fence one falls it is wise to never to make a decision based off of the polar extremes. Yes I would agree that no one wants to watch their loved one harmed/raped. Talking "I wish someone would break in".
That is just as stupid as the jerk who said "I would love to see how they rip flesh" or what dump sh1t that came out of his mouth earlier in this thread.
Yes some who uses gun locks around kids and teaches proper usage to their family is great but why are you working and practicing so hard for a 1 in a thousand event that will end up badly no matter how it shakes out.
Crypto 79. Please understand this for the final time. As your responses to your theory is Ok with me and others on here about guns. But you can't keep saying If I pegged you wrong I'm sorry. It's ok to practice safe gun ways with your family. Then you go on and still call me a "JERK" a "INBRED". Read below further.
You need a friend my non friend. Please reach down inside and stand tall in life for what you believe in, but don't call people names that are not even close to the truth about them.
You are preaching to the choir! Don't sit in the middle of that fence and say this or that and then say you are sorry.
Lastly one's man home is his paradise, his place of comfort is to keep his family out of the cold and the wrongs that go on every minute of the day/night in this world is not my problem my duty is to protect mine.
Crypto 79 we live in the U.S. and I want you to remember this my non friend. We have rights to bear arms within our plantation/home.
So again as I do carry a concealment permit for working in law enforcement during my spree as a undercover secruity agent for a large retail chain in Maryland, arresting Aholes that are too lazy to get a job or lack of their well being want to hussle other people in life is not valid in my world. Yes I chose this but hell some people like me, my family loves me and although I can't spell or express my thoughts on here the right way is oh well I'll live with it.
I will tell you one more time, just one more ok Cypto, it doesn't matter how you look at me or anyone else that believe in protection of ones self or family, but they do have the "RIGHT TO PROTECT ONES DOMAIN AND EVERYTHING WITHIN ONES DOMAIN"
Your preaching will not be heard unless you really understand the laws of our land. Do you know what kind of person you have to be to go through the Feds and the state of Maryland Polices background checks to receive a gun permit Cypto? Your harsh name calling about me is just plain childish and not real from someone that has any brains.
I really hope you don't go to Texas or Arizona were people can carry a gun with them where ever they go and with your thought process is boy or boy that's just not right, how can anyone be so stupid to carry a gun like that out in public. The reason is there is so much scum in this world and our country that we live in I, for one will not stand by and let these wolves bite/hurt me or my family. You don't know what I have gone through to protect employees the prices of the food you eat in stores and also myself in the past. Every law enforcement person has reminded me of my rights, many Judges have stated to this scum suckers how lucky they were that they were not shot or killed during their robbery/stealing of items for which they are in front of the Judge that day when he is trying to reason sense into these people.
So please understand this. As to me wanted to see flesh, what do you think is going to happen? I hunt deer, rabbits, bear and elk. What do you think will happen to the flesh of a human?
It's just a figure of speech that I meant. Good Luck with your travels in life Cypto but don't come on here or anyone else and demeanor someone's self worth when you don't even know me.
Now lets talk about coins Cypto but please not those silly Redskins.LOL
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LOL A dare? To who? For what? I posted it up along with my new buffalo nickel because I know a lot of the guys on here like guns too. What am I daring them to do? Steal from me? Fight me? Shoot me? What? I don't get it.
I have coins. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I post them here cause people here like coins and talk about them frequently.
I have guns. I am not ashamed of that fact, nor competitive about it. I posted a picture of one here cause I know a lot of my coin buddies like guns too. I don't think posting a picture of a firearm is anymore challenging than posting a picture of my type set.
My apologies to anyone that felt "challenged" to a "dare" by the picture of my gun in my Christmas present thread.
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It wasn't so much the picture of the gun, as the statement that you got it if anyone tried to steal your coin. >>
Wow. I will be sure to send you a PM in the future alerting you of my plans to use any bit of tongue in cheek, good natured humor so as not to frighten you or make you feel challenged. I would assume (incorrectly apparently) that since you feel familiar enough to address me by name, that you would be at least somewhat familiar with my posting style and or sense of humor.
Besides, don't be an idiot, I wouldn't use a .38 if someone tried to steal a coin. That's why I own .45's! Oh crap, I forgot to warn you a joke was coming. >>
I dunno how familiar enough I am to you or vice versa, but it does say in your profile that your name is Eric ...
I have my system as well.
Can't say but it will kill!
I hate thieves.
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I have my system as well.
Can't say but it will kill!
I hate thieves. >>
Does it involve large bear traps and high voltage electricity?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>It's good to hear that things turned out mostly okay and it sounded like the Alameda Police responded quickly and investigated the incident thoroughly.
I guess it's also good to hear that the Alameda Police actually did something relevant. I'm still not a fan of the department ever since about three years ago they issued me a citation (not a ticket or moving violation) while driving on Park Street that required a court appearance and a fine of $145. Apparently making U-turns in a car is unlawful and an expensive misdemeanor in Alameda. >>
I'm sorry you had such a hassle. I'm surprised it wasn't just a moving violation.
There's a joke in Alameda: "Don't drive 26 miles per hour, it's just not worth the ticket."
I use my cruise control on long streets like Santa Clara. They also bust for "California Stops" -- rolling through a stop sign.
The rapport between the citizens and cops in Alameda is pretty good, and the police tend not to go "RESPECT MAH AUHTORAHTAH". I hope it stays that way.
<< <i>Crypto, why don't you shove it up your arse, first check my sig line, second I never really broadcasted it here but I was home, as was my fiance at the time along with a friend, we were actually making a coin trade when a perp kicked in the front door, armed with a glock, I immediately dispatched the perp with 3 rounds from my glock 19, turn out this poor guy who was left dying and stinking on my floor was responsible for several home invasions including a murder the week prior at an aparment complex. So f$#k off, I would be dead had I not had my gun in my holster. A holes like you want to make it easy for the gov't to come in and regulate what I do in my own house under the second amendment. If you want to be a victim, that is your choice, but how dare you criticize anyone using their second amendment rights. As for being a rambo, nope, but I have been there and done that, I have had 7 bullets removed from my body to protect your rights to post your liberal garbage here! >>
No High Speed, I will shove it up your arse. I had 6 plus years in 5th group SFG(A) pulling dozens of little punks like you out of harm's way, if you were even a gunner for BlackWater( might be a cook,your style smells like a cook). You chose to take the BlackWater route where I chose the "suit and tie" approach after service. I did state the hicks who get off on putting holes in people find a way to do so(Armed services, Black ops contractors ect.). But I would simply state that your puppy love for fire arms hasn't made you safer( Hence the cute little 7 stitch zipper added to your frame) and I do not think the perps over in hostile fire zones making 200 grand are all that heroic or smart. They do it for the money not their country because they can't figure any other way to make more than MIN wage back home.
7 7.62 rounds to your body????? Haven't seen to many people walk away from that! me think you are full of it. Maybe it was 5.56 from one of your buddies. With your attitude, that sounds about right to me. What happens outside the green zone stays there! Calm down Rambo, go get a job as a border patrol maybe you can take out a full family. Also if you didn't live in a trailer park maybe people wouldn't kick down your door with a Glock( nice gun for a common robber?). To keep this coin related, that's my two cents, Hero...
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<< <i>You sir; are sick. I find it hard to believe that there are inbred gun nuts like you in the fine state of Maryland. I hope one day you are faced with the dilemma of having to use your sidearm. Then and only then will we find out if your bravado has even a little merit. With people like you it rarely does. >>
Typical response from a liberal gun grabber who would rather be a victim than defend himself or his family. Why don't you break into his house and find out.
+1,000,000, always the victim those libs.
I also recommend NOT getting brinks. They are proprietary. Almost all other systems use Ademco alarms which any company can monitor. We have Guardian which also uses Ademco. With Brinks, you are stuck with Brinks forever.
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<< <i>You sir; are sick. I find it hard to believe that there are inbred gun nuts like you in the fine state of Maryland. I hope one day you are faced with the dilemma of having to use your sidearm. Then and only then will we find out if your bravado has even a little merit. With people like you it rarely does. >>
Typical response from a liberal gun grabber who would rather be a victim than defend himself or his family. Why don't you break into his house and find out.
+1,000,000, always the victim those libs.
I also recommend NOT getting brinks. They are proprietary. Almost all other systems use Ademco alarms which any company can monitor. We have Guardian which also uses Ademco. With Brinks, you are stuck with Brinks forever. >>
I don't understand you theory. Why pay huge $$$ to have you home wired from a company like Guardian or ADT. Brinks was free. I have had two false alarms in 6 years and the police both times were here in 4/5 minutes.
Our local company that uses Ademco are very slow, my sister and another neighbor down the road has them. I was first call for my sister's contact and took at least 5 minutes to call me then I told them to call the police. Last time we checked the time they called and police arrived at my sisters house was 13 minutes. That's way too long.
Also false alarms here in Charles County are $150 a pop after 2 freebies.
Cryto you are really showing how small you are. Every person that had something to say against your wisdom shouldn't be put down. Maybe if you state your purpose without the childish name calling things would be a lot better for ya.
As for you serving over in Iraq, don't put down or mock another hero, Mr Zero, real soldiers don't respond to other soldiers like you just did. We know who is really hiding behind the supply truck crying for momma. You are really a live one my nonfriend.
It doesn't bother me if some criminal gets dispatched. It's OK for it to bother you.
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I don't understand you theory. Why pay huge $$$ to have you home wired from a company like Guardian or ADT. Brinks was free. I have had two false alarms in 6 years and the police both times were here in 4/5 minutes.
Our local company that uses Ademco are very slow, my sister and another neighbor down the road has them. I was first call for my sister's contact and took at least 5 minutes to call me then I told them to call the police. Last time we checked the time they called and police arrived at my sisters house was 13 minutes. That's way too long.
Also false alarms here in Charles County are $150 a pop after 2 freebies.
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We had multiple quotes, including Brinks, whose main selling point btw, was that they were "Brinks". They were all about the same. Free for the basic package, more from there. We ended up paying around $700 for everything. Almost all sensors are wireless.
I'm sure Brinks service is great, and realistically, word of mouth is the most important thing and chances are you will not change servicers, I just like to have options
Guardian calls immediately and the one time when the Emergency button on the remote was pressed by mistake, the cops were there within 5 minutes. (when seconds count, the police are only minutes away)
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<< <i>Crypto, why don't you shove it up your arse. >>
No High Speed, I will shove it up your arse. >>
Ooohhh, CU turned into a gay porn site so gradually that I never even noticed!
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
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I don't understand you theory. Why pay huge $$$ to have you home wired from a company like Guardian or ADT. Brinks was free. I have had two false alarms in 6 years and the police both times were here in 4/5 minutes.
Our local company that uses Ademco are very slow, my sister and another neighbor down the road has them. I was first call for my sister's contact and took at least 5 minutes to call me then I told them to call the police. Last time we checked the time they called and police arrived at my sisters house was 13 minutes. That's way too long.
Also false alarms here in Charles County are $150 a pop after 2 freebies.
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We had multiple quotes, including Brinks, whose main selling point btw, was that they were "Brinks". They were all about the same. Free for the basic package, more from there. We ended up paying around $700 for everything. Almost all sensors are wireless.
I'm sure Brinks service is great, and realistically, word of mouth is the most important thing and chances are you will not change servicers, I just like to have options
Guardian calls immediately and the one time when the Emergency button on the remote was pressed by mistake, the cops were there within 5 minutes. (when seconds count, the police are only minutes away) >>
I never said I wouldn't change.
So again I think your system and mothers system here in Charles County is fine, I had brinks for years now, and a good product is hard to find.
Personally, I think criminals using guns ought to be strung up on their first offense. That would solve the whole issue, make the scum think twice, or rid ourselves of them. I certainly have nothing against law abiding citizens owning guns.
I still don't like the CAC though :-)
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<< <i>Crypto, why don't you shove it up your arse, first check my sig line, second I never really broadcasted it here but I was home, as was my fiance at the time along with a friend, we were actually making a coin trade when a perp kicked in the front door, armed with a glock, I immediately dispatched the perp with 3 rounds from my glock 19, turn out this poor guy who was left dying and stinking on my floor was responsible for several home invasions including a murder the week prior at an aparment complex. So f$#k off, I would be dead had I not had my gun in my holster. A holes like you want to make it easy for the gov't to come in and regulate what I do in my own house under the second amendment. If you want to be a victim, that is your choice, but how dare you criticize anyone using their second amendment rights. As for being a rambo, nope, but I have been there and done that, I have had 7 bullets removed from my body to protect your rights to post your liberal garbage here! >>
No High Speed, I will shove it up your arse. I had 6 plus years in 5th group SFG(A) pulling dozens of little punks like you out of harm's way, if you were even a gunner for BlackWater( might be a cook,your style smells like a cook). You chose to take the BlackWater route where I chose the "suit and tie" approach after service. I did state the hicks who get off on putting holes in people find a way to do so(Armed services, Black ops contractors ect.). But I would simply state that your puppy love for fire arms hasn't made you safer( Hence the cute little 7 stitch zipper added to your frame) and I do not think the perps over in hostile fire zones making 200 grand are all that heroic or smart. They do it for the money not their country because they can't figure any other way to make more than MIN wage back home. 7 7.62 rounds to your body????? Haven't seen to many people walk away from that! me think you are full of it. Maybe it was 5.56 from one of your buddies. With your attitude, that sounds about right to me. What happens outside the green zone stays there! Calm down Rambo, go get a job as a border patrol maybe you can take out a full family. Also if you didn't live in a trailer park maybe people wouldn't kick down your door with a Glock( nice gun for a common robber?). To keep this coin related, that's my two cents, Hero... >>
What hapened to our peace loving pacifist???
<< <i>I predict 100+. >>
Good call.
Home , stores , banks , post office ,place of employment , coin shows etc . As I got comfortable with this ,
I realized the ABC'c of being able to do this . I do not carry all the time , but often .
A Its good to have , and I'm glad I do .
B I do not wish to ever have to use it .
C Have no idea if confronted , that I would be passive ,
or just empty a 9 round clip , eject , and snap another
clip in and keep going .
Interesting , HuH ?
<< <i>A few months ago , I received my permit to carry . Since then , a weapon has been on me wherever I went .
Home , stores , banks , post office ,place of employment , coin shows etc . As I got comfortable with this ,
I realized the ABC'c of being able to do this . I do not carry all the time , but often .
A Its good to have , and I'm glad I do .
B I do not wish to ever have to use it .
C Have no idea if confronted , that I would be passive ,
or just empty a 9 round clip , eject , and snap another
clip in and keep going .
Interesting , HuH ? >>
Lets see I thought we were talking about HOME INVASIONS?
I think you should rethink the reason you have the gun. I do carry mine out in the world, but I would never take the law in my own hands.
That gun on your person should be like a part of your well being. We will never know what circumstance might become of us but common sense would tell you when to use it.
I have pointed my gun at maybe 5 people in my years while working at my job and believe me there are no heros. Each and everytime you could here a pin drop. Most people that are confronted when there is a gun in your line of sight obey.
I have been held up twice earlier in my career in Washington Dc and had given them what they wanted, was I scared "YES" but I was learning the fear he robber had in them. No one wants to be involved of a standoff, but I'm older, wiser, and know my rights more today then 20 years ago.
Please guys/gals this is a serious issue, we can go round and round. It's not a game. Prepare yourself with knowledge, take some gun safety training courses, go to self defense courses and learn your laws within your states.
Things are the worst they have been in years. Do you know that over 70% of shootings and murders are never reported in the papers or news? There is a high percentage of home invasions daily in the area you live in and unless you press the information for the law enforcement agencys you'll never know.
I pray to GOD each and everyday for his love and protection of the closet people that are close to me. But I know he will make me stronger when someone comes on my 5 acre property with No Tresspassing signs and decides to enter my domain. I am doing not only me a favor but you and your family a favor. 'SEE NO EVIL, FEAR NO EVIL'
<< <i>You sir; are sick. I find it hard to believe that there are inbred gun nuts like you in the fine state of Maryland. I hope one day you are faced with the dilemma of having to use your sidearm. Then and only then will we find out if your bravado has even a little merit. With people like you it rarely does. >>
The "dilemma of having to use your sidearm" I guess you'd rather be dead than facing that dilemma?
CAC
CAC
CAC
CAC is GREAT
CAC is better the PCGS
I think it's pretty wacky to not to want to protect yourself though.
<< <i>Thinking a gun is the best/only way to defend your house does. >>
What other alternatives are there if there is a home invasion?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
We have a 100 lb lab too, but she just tries to get in their car and go for a ride. The UPS guy has to keep the truck door shut or she'll be in his seat when he goes to leave!
Your results may vary.
And I think they like it that way.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!