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FilthyBroke
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<< <i>Damn nice set you have.
Thanks.
<< <i>Very nice! Can you label them as to which monarch is depicted, (or at least from their reign) and the year of production please? >>
Ok, I'll give it a shot, this is some very basic info info provided me on each-
First is Ethelred II (843/4-849/50), copper styca, reads EDILRED REX around small cross-
Second is Henry II (1154-1189), silver penny-
Next is Richard I (1172-1185), silver denier-
Next is Henry III (1216-1247), silver 'voided cross' penny-
Next, Edward III (1272-1307?), silver penny, no info came with this one-
There are the first five, I'll get the others in a minute....
Here's a link with some interesting information on these guys.
Henry VIII (1544-1547), silver half groat-
Elizabeth I (1558-1603), sixpence-
James I (1603-1625), shilling-
Charles I (1625-1649), shilling-
Also a Charles I, this one is a silver 'counter' or medal designed by Nicholas Briot, commemorating Charles I 'Dominion of the sea'-
Well, there ya go.
Oh, and if I'm off on any of this info so far, please step in! I'm relying a lot on info provided by sellers.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
<< <i>Harold II is tough and expensive... >>
Yes, I believe you're right.....there seem to be many early ones that'll be tough (or nearly impossible). I'm concentrating on House of Plantagenet and on through to the introduction of milled coinage. That way I should be able to stick to it for a while, anyway.
Earlier this week I read a book that covered the Tudor and Stuart ruling familys, kind of interesting timing you posted these now. Yes, the book had coins included too!
<< <i>Thanks FB, I appreciate it! Those are very cool...
Earlier this week I read a book that covered the Tudor and Stuart ruling familys, kind of interesting timing you posted these now. Yes, the book had coins included too! >>
Your response made me think back to my fifth grade history class. As I recall, we spent a good part of the year studying the feudal system, the British monarchy, the Magna Carta, Black Death, and all the knowledge so vital to a fifth graders survival.
On a side note, the same teacher the next year spent many months teaching us Russian history. Still no interest there, though. Sorry, Mr. Ward
<< <i>Nice collection.
Thanks, what have been the tougher finds for your collection? I'd love to add a gold piece to mine at some point.... I've seen a few nice ones here.
I'm still looking at more common pieces. Before I've assessed a series and started with a good tough coin and worked my way down, this time I'm doing it backwards so I can get my hands on as many as possible. My Henry VIII isn't the best but I stumbled across it and figured that at under $30 I had to jump.
Thanks
Here's a list that was done a number of years ago (either here or another chat room). It doesn't go back to the likes of Aethelred but it's a start.
Cnut 1016 - 1035
Harold I 1035 - 1040
Henry II 1154 - 1189
Richard I 1189 - 1199
John, Lackland 1199 - 1216
Henry III 1216 - 1272
Edward I 1272 - 1307
Edward II 1307 - 1327
Edward III 1327 - 1377
Richard II 1377 - 1399
Henry IV 1399 - 1413
Henry V 1413 - 1422
Henry VI 1422 - 1461, 1470 - 1471
Edward IV 1461 - 1470, 1471 - 1483
Edward V 1483
Richard III 1483 - 1485
Henry VII 1485 - 1509
Henry VIII 1509 - 1547
Edward VI 1547 - 1553
Lady Jane 1553
Mary I 1553 - 1558
Elizabeth I 1558 - 1603
James I 1603 - 1625
Charles I 1625 - 1649
Commonwealth 1649 - 1660
Charles II 1660 - 1685
James II 1685 - 1688
William III and Mary II 1689 - 1702
Anne 1702 - 1714
George I 1714 - 1727
George II 1727 - 1760
George III 1760 - 1820
George IV 1820 - 1830
William IV 1830 - 1837
Victoria 1837 - 1901
Edward VII 1901 - 1910
George V 1910 - 1936
Edward VIII 1936
George VI 1936 - 1952
Elizabeth II 1952
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Farthing, thanks for the list. I was using a Wiki list that included a few variations, some that I haven't seen coinage for.
English hammered packs a lot of bang for the £ though, lots of history and not really very high prices on common stuff.
<< <i>The Nicholas Briot Charles I medal is quit a nice find. I have one for his Scottish coronation, I collect primarily Scottish coins. I have several English monarchs also, but find the Scottish fiendishly more challenging.
English hammered packs a lot of bang for the £ though, lots of history and not really very high prices on common stuff. >>
The Briot medal was kind of a bonus find, I was looking for the Henry II and come across it. Once I saw it, I knew I had to have it, if you know what I mean.
Oh, and the "bang for the buck" is nice, too! I was surprised when I first started as to how easily accessible they were. (At least the low to mid-grade)
I only have one question though.
What year did they stop making coins through the process of Hammering and went to Milled?
So what would be the last monarch who would have a hammered coin?
Also any good books out there on this subject?
I have seen examples of milled coins back to Elizabeth I.
I like to use Coincraft's Standard Catalogue of English & UK Coins 1066 to Date for most things English. They stopped producing this fine book in 1998 or 1999 but for historical coins that should matter little. You should see this book occasionally on eBay.
Otherwise, unless you really get into English coins I would recommend the Spinks yearly book Coins of England and the United Kingdom. One a few years old would be quite sufficient.
Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
The LIst
Just because there is almost no way to build a complete set does not mean your shouldn't enjoy building what you can.
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1987-C Hendersonville Road
Asheville, NC 28803
wnccoins.com
I remember commenting on that Charles I medal. That is a neat piece.
Seeing that collection brings back nostalgic memories for my old English monarch set.
I might try it again one day. When I did it before, I was so poor I could barely afford Wheat pennies, let alone English hammered stuff (though it WAS cheaper then). I still managed to pick up a Stephen penny and some decent groats. I believe our friend Aethelred might still have one or two of my old coins.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>Here is a list from my website of all the rulers of England from the first Saxons until now. It should (a) help you see who issued coins & who didn't and (b) show you how daunting your task is.
The LIst
Just because there is almost no way to build a complete set does not mean your shouldn't enjoy building what you can. >>
Wowsers! That's an intimidating list
Oh, and I'm having a blast with it so far! I'll keep this thread updated as I add to it, hope no one minds!
I think I managed to have an unbroken line from Charles II on up to QE2 (using a non-portrait coin of Edward VIII, obviously), and several of the earlier ones. My highlights were the Stephen penny, an off-center 1829 shilling, and a 1714 Anne guinea. Considering my budget at the time (this was the early 1990s and I basically went bankrupt in 1994), it's a wonder I got as far as I did.
I really enjoyed them, and I will enjoy watching you build your set.
BTW, I planned to start my set from 1066, the Norman conquest being a major milestone and all, but I never did get William the Conqueror or anybody earlier than Stephen.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>I'll look forward to watching your progress.
I think I managed to have an unbroken line from Charles II on up to QE2 (using a non-portrait coin of Edward VIII, obviously), and several of the earlier ones. My highlights were the Stephen penny, an off-center 1829 shilling, and a 1714 Anne guinea. Considering my budget at the time (this was the early 1990s and I basically went bankrupt in 1994), it's a wonder I got as far as I did.
I really enjoyed them, and I will enjoy watching you build your set.
BTW, I planned to start my set from 1066, the Norman conquest being a major milestone and all, but I never did get William the Conqueror or anybody earlier than Stephen. >>
Wish I'd have been around then to see it.
I'm getting close to adding John Lackland to the set, stay tuned, guys.
I see he still has at least three of my old babies.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>Feast your eyes on Aethelred's collection.
I see he still has at least three of my old babies.
That's a cool collection. Thanks for the link. I see a good part of it is slabbed, even a couple by PCGS. Heck, I didn't even know they did hammered stuff, I think Aethelred's is the first I've seen. Interesting stuff here.
Oh,and that Aethelred II penny is my favorite, I gotta get one of those!
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<< <i>Nice collection.
Thanks, what have been the tougher finds for your collection? I'd love to add a gold piece to mine at some point.... I've seen a few nice ones here.
I'm still looking at more common pieces. Before I've assessed a series and started with a good tough coin and worked my way down, this time I'm doing it backwards so I can get my hands on as many as possible. My Henry VIII isn't the best but I stumbled across it and figured that at under $30 I had to jump.
My collection is from William I - Victoria. The more difficult hammered coins are William II, Henry IV &
Richard III. If you would like to see mine let me know and I'll post for you this weekend.
Phoenix
<< <i> If you would like to see mine let me know and I'll post for you this weekend.
Absolutely! I'd love to see 'em. Post some pics when you get a chance. I'm glad to see there are others here with similar interests, makes it that much more fun!
<< <i>WOW! That is one impressive collection and website, Aethelred!! >>
Thank you, I have had a lot of fun building it and learning a bit of the history behind it. The website is in very bad need of an update, but I don't know when that will happen.
WNC Coins, LLC
1987-C Hendersonville Road
Asheville, NC 28803
wnccoins.com
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<< <i> If you would like to see mine let me know and I'll post for you this weekend.
Absolutely! I'd love to see 'em. Post some pics when you get a chance. I'm glad to see there are others here with similar interests, makes it that much more fun!
Just wait until you see his, he has some serious coins!
WNC Coins, LLC
1987-C Hendersonville Road
Asheville, NC 28803
wnccoins.com
<< <i>I see he still has at least three of my old babies. >>
and six of mine.
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Collecting:
Conder tokens
19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
Henry VII (1489-1509) halfgroat-
Edward the Confessor (1044-1066) cut halfpenny-
Sorry for the quick pics, I'll get them out later and try for better lighting. On a side note, maybe someone can answer this for me. When I look up the cut halfpenny (labeled as such), I find that it's a penny, cut. Is this how it is deemed a halfpenny, or am I missing something?
World Collection
British Collection
German States Collection
<< <i>A very nice set. I am doing something similar but just shillings, so I start with Edw. VI. Still a few tough ones though, James and Charles II for example. >>
Mine seems currently to be a haphazard romp through the ages, no real theme exept by a list of names. You are well disciplined to do such a set with specifically shillings. I thought of a tighter theme, but on the shoestring budget I'm working with presently I need to be flexible.
How long have you been working on your set, if I may ask? I usually don't collect sets as I tend to get in a rush to finish it and the quality or selectivity suffers. I'll see how this one goes, I've been slowly working on this seriously (if you can call it that) for about a year.
Here's a new addition to my set, which has come to a near halt as of late. I finally got a chance and picked this one up last week-
Edward I, 1272-1307 long cross penny
<< <i>Very nice collection you have there!! I have to ask though, where are you getting your reference for these pieces? Is there a guide or are you using other sources? Thanks. >>
Mostly I go by the info provided by the sellers, and I try to buy from a few better-known dealers who seem to know their stuff. There are reference sites, such as THIS ONE where general info can be found.
I'm not really one for specifics as to detailed information, so I can and will probably be off the mark on some of the info I have.
As I've said before, I wholeheartedly approve of your pursuit here, and I vicariously enjoy it. Brings back fond memories of my old attempt at an English/British monarch set.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.