A prominent So-Called Dollar collection was just auctioned
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For the quality, I thought that the prices
were reasonable and realistic., at least for
the slug facsimalies.
Camelot
<< <i>Yup, I won 10018, 19973, 10112, 10404.
For the quality, I thought that the prices
were reasonable and realistic. >>
I assume that 19973 is actually 10073.
Those are some pretty slugs!
I wanted to add to my collection of 1894 MidWinter Exposition dollars. I bid what I felt was very strong money, but I was blown out of the water!
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including the" Bear Collection",auctioned by the Goldbergs
on Feb-2009. It should be on line after jan/1/09.
It will probably total 300- 400 pieces.
Camelot
<< <i>Yes,there will be three large collections of So Called Dollars,
including the" Bear Collection",auctioned by the Goldbergs
on Feb-2009. It should be on line after jan/1/09.
It will probably total 300- 400 pieces. >>
Any relation?
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
<< <i>HK 485
These are VERY hard to find.
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
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<< <i>HK 485
These are VERY hard to find.
He had THREE of them! This particular one was in his collection since 1959. Hopefully, it will be in its new home for a long time.
specializing in the SLUGS now.
Camelot
<< <i>Yes It is my SCD Collection. I am
specializing in the SLUGS now. >>
It's ironic. Last week I did not have a single slug. Now, after a weak moment, I seem to have a small collections of them.
<< <i>He had THREE of them! This particular one was in his collection since 1959. Hopefully, it will be in its new home for a long time. >>
Time to break out the Charmin!
- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
<< <i>No. I missed it entirely. Everything I would have bid on went way above my means anyway, i.e. the Heenan-Sayers issues (of which there were recent eBay sales of at much lower levels), the Brian Boru dollars and a few select others.
I once owned a steel hub for the Brian Boru dollar. Gawd, what a paperweight that was for my desk!!!!!
TD
Camelot
<< <i>Who won the 10481 ? >>
Someone who really really really wanted it, apparently!
It looks like I won several pieces, but nothing noteworthy. There's a comment on the site that invoices will go out on Monday.
I guess I agree with Bear that the prices were reasonable for the quality, but remember that this auction included some *incredibly* rare pieces in spectacular grades. I have a database of 18,000 auction appearances of So-Called Dollars, and this auction had multiples of several pieces where I previously recorded zero appearances. I was hoping that maybe one or two of the less obviously rare pieces might slip through where I could pick them off at reasonable prices. Nope!
Because several of these pieces were in the one-known category, I can trace prices fairly easily. The HK-876a (Denver Mint Opening in Silver) sold this week for $5000, previously sold in 1996 for $1000. Lot 10260 (HK-245 "AKERUE" die trial) sold this week for $2000, previously sold in 1988 for for $56. Not a bad investment, either of those.
Of course, it's a little painful to think of a few things that have appeared on eBay in the last year or two where I didn't bid because I thought $100 was too much, only to see similar pieces sell now for $500 or $1000. Oh, well!
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<< <i>I guess I agree with Bear that the prices were reasonable for the quality, but remember that this auction included some *incredibly* rare pieces in spectacular grades. I have a database of 18,000 auction appearances of So-Called Dollars, and this auction had multiples of several pieces where I previously recorded zero appearances. I was hoping that maybe one or two of the less obviously rare pieces might slip through where I could pick them off at reasonable prices. Nope! >>
That’s interesting. In your estimation, how often does an old-time collection like this come to the block?
It is my understanding that the graded lots have the Weber provenance on the label. That alone brings a new facet to my collection.
It’s unbelievable that the second part of the auction, the mail-bid portion contained duplicates. It seemed to me that the duplicates brought just as strong or stronger bids. Anyone else get the same impression?
<< <i>That’s interesting. In your estimation, how often does an old-time collection like this come to the block? >>
Not often, although there was another large So-Called Dollar collection sold last summer because of the death of the owner. Off the top of my head, I can think of three sales in the 1990s of similar size, and at least 2 more in the 1980s. This sale was a little unusual because Weber was focusing specifically on California pieces, and did a phenomenal job of that, too.
<< <i>t’s unbelievable that the second part of the auction, the mail-bid portion contained duplicates. It seemed to me that the duplicates brought just as strong or stronger bids. Anyone else get the same impression? >>
Fact, not impression. Easy enough to confirm:
HK number -- Live lot: price / Mail lot: price
HK-149 -- 10245: $920 / 10625: $500
HK-250gilt -- 10271: $374 / 10644: $425
HK-252 -- 10274: $316 / 10646: $600
HK-254 -- 10281: $316 / 10652: $375
HK-256 -- 10286: $489 / 10656: $375
...and LOTS of others. The auction house clearly wasn't separating good stuff from bad stuff, but simply didn't want to overload the live section with too many lots.
<< <i> Fact, not impression. Easy enough to confirm:
HK number -- Live lot: price / Mail lot: price
HK-149 -- 10245: $920 / 10625: $500
HK-250gilt -- 10271: $374 / 10644: $425
HK-252 -- 10274: $316 / 10646: $600
HK-254 -- 10281: $316 / 10652: $375
HK-256 -- 10286: $489 / 10656: $375
...and LOTS of others. The auction house clearly wasn't separating good stuff from bad stuff, but simply didn't want to overload the live section with too many lots. >>
It may be more extreme than that. I don't think your Mail-bid figures include the buyers premium.
I am just blown away by that HK 252. The live auction example was graded MS62PL. The mail-bid example is raw, and in my opinion, looks cleaned. Yet it brought double the money.
Thanks for the perspective on past auctions. Which was the auction from last summer? I must have missed that!
<< <i>I've heard the best so-called dollar collection is going to be auctioned by Goldberg's at Long beach in February. Any truth to that? >>
Anyone attend the auction?