what feelings does the grade VF35 conjure up?!

1907Quarter · November 25, 2008 9:03AM

just curious?!

MidLifeCrisis · November 25, 2008 9:04AM

Caution.

But really, it depends on the series. VF35 colonials can be quite nice.

Treeman · November 25, 2008 9:07AM

It could be a solid XF, or it could be a nice VF25. It seems that even the grading services are unsure about what a 35 is...

LindeDad · November 25, 2008 9:07AM

Workers that got put away just in time to be collectable.

Crackout · November 25, 2008 9:08AM

I like the 35 grade!

Especially for seated coins and Barbers.

Baley · November 25, 2008 9:11AM

Almost but not quite EF. Needs to be a heck of a VF to grade 35 by a strict grader. Much more common to see coins graded 25 and 30, it seems.

jimmymac · November 25, 2008 9:11AM

a nicely used coin that has patina and character - collectors get excited about MS coins, but I like a coin that has some wear and has been used for its purpose - give me a nice, worn/toned EF-AU coin anyday over a MS!!

thisnamztaken · November 25, 2008 9:12AM

<< Workers that got put away just in time to be collectable.

>>

Good description!

tombr · November 25, 2008 9:12AM

Here's one. VF35

MikeInFL · November 25, 2008 9:14AM

"what feelings does the grade VF35 conjure up?!"

Choice VF -- kind of like the barber posted above.

TomB · November 25, 2008 9:17AM

As with any other grade, some pieces can be spectacular. I only own one certified VF35, but have been able to buy quite a few raw VF35 coins over the years. Here is the certified coin, which in fact came from another board member-

kaz · November 25, 2008 9:18AM

... a coin that has clearly circulated, with most of the details visible, and with an attractive patina. Like a nice piece of antique furniture.

DennisH · November 25, 2008 9:18AM

The Morgan equivalent of the Barber pictured above is exactly what I see in my mind for VF35... gorgeous original surfaces, natural unmolested toning, and wonderful eye appeal that is becoming much too uncommon these days.

gemini12398 · November 25, 2008 9:21AM

My feeling is "the blankety blanks couldn't give me a 40"

fc · November 25, 2008 9:22AM

vf35 on a half eagle should still have some luster hiding in the cracks.
xf45 should have quite a bit... what today we call a AU50.

everything has been grade inflated. i grade to my own standard now
days and could care less what the BIG SHOTS say. grading has been
manipulated to make money. bah on that whole aspect of coin
collecting.

other collectors.. in other hobbies would chuckle with a quick education
about coin grading compared to their chosen hobbies.

ChrisRx · November 25, 2008 9:23AM

LindeDad · November 25, 2008 9:23AM

<< As with any other grade, some pieces can be spectacular. I only own one certified VF35, but have been able to buy quite a few raw VF35 coins over the years. Here is the certified coin, which in fact came from another board member- >>

Dang TomB I have been looking for one like that for five years.

rays · November 25, 2008 9:24AM

1798CentCollector · November 25, 2008 9:42AM

An EAC or raw choice VF coin

lcoopie · November 25, 2008 9:47AM

a lot of detail, but no luster?

jmj3esq · November 25, 2008 9:50AM

Its a nice affordable grade for a 1800's type set.

MrEureka · November 25, 2008 10:00AM

what feelings does the grade VF35 conjure up?

If I own it? Pain, horror and inadequacy. If someone else owns it? Disdain and pity.

Just kidding, just kidding, just kidding!!!

Hotfootspin · November 25, 2008 10:33AM

Pretty close to XF at half the price.

1907Quarter · November 25, 2008 10:44AM

some excellent posts here. did not know what kind of responses I was going to get here as the question posted is a little cheeky in spirit. heck of some amazing 35-coin pics-outstanding! keep em coming!

Barndog · November 25, 2008 10:49AM

RWB · November 25, 2008 10:52AM

VF & EF - "comfortable"

lcoopie · November 25, 2008 11:05AM

Barndog- what happened?

tombr · November 25, 2008 11:07AM

<< some excellent posts here. did not know what kind of responses I was going to get here as the question posted is a little cheeky in spirit. heck of some amazing 35-coin pics-outstanding! keep em coming! >>

Barndog · November 25, 2008 11:12AM

<< Barndog- what happened? >>

a chunk of the obverse die broke away...pretty cool, eh?

WinPitcher · November 25, 2008 11:14AM

IMO a 35 is a hi end 25, a coin with no problems and has worn evenly and naturally.

Steve

AUandAG · November 25, 2008 11:17AM

A real nice, in hand, pocket carried 89cc or 93s Morgan.

bob

Fairlaneman · November 25, 2008 11:20AM

Disdain because so darn many dealers, well know by the way, and so called dealers always bump a VF35 up to XF and AU even though there is no luster showing. I call this sort of dealer a "detail only" seller. For the most part the TPG's are no better either.

Ken

JrGMan2004 · November 25, 2008 11:22AM

<< Here's one. VF35

>>

MMmmmmm... barbers like that are some of my favorite coins... and what drove me to start working on a VG/F/VF Dansco album set... though hopefully more F and VF with VGs and maybe Gs being reserved for key and better dates...

veryfine · November 25, 2008 11:26AM

It's the perfect grade for dealers to advertise as "virtually XF" or "really should be in an XF holder."

coinlieutenant · November 25, 2008 11:29AM

love the grade

Lakesammman · November 25, 2008 11:30AM

If it was the Oregon $10, I would LOVE the grade.

ziggy29 · November 25, 2008 11:47AM

I think it's one of the better value grades. It may just barely lack an accepted requirement for an XF coin, but may otherwise be just as nice as an XF-40 coin at a considerable discount (usually) to XF-40 coins.

robkool · November 25, 2008 11:48AM

I consider them like EF coins... Especially the classic type examples.

1907Quarter · November 25, 2008 12:14PM

rays · November 25, 2008 12:17PM

<< If it was the Oregon $10, I would LOVE the grade.

>>

In over 20 years of attending shows, I have only seen an Oregon Territorial Gold piece once.

lasvegasteddy · November 25, 2008 12:18PM

certain coins wear vf real sweet

doh · November 25, 2008 12:20PM

Paying XF money for a VF coin...

Dave99B · November 25, 2008 1:52PM

The perfect circulated grade!

The perfect circulated grade!

The perfect circulated grade!

The perfect circulated grade!

The perfect circulated grade!

Dave

DennisH · November 25, 2008 3:16PM

Here's a PCGS VF35 I just received yesterday, courtesy of MSN Cashback!

Barberian · November 25, 2008 5:47PM

As someone mentioned earlier, VF35 can be a really sweet grade for Seated and Barber coins. Here is a recent VF35 I purchased that I kind of like.

SaorAlba · November 25, 2008 9:41PM

In a nutshell...

Sloppy seconds.

OKbustchaser · November 25, 2008 9:47PM

The same feelings that AU-58 does...that I am about to be charged XF money for a VF coin. (or MS money for an AU coin)

TennesseeDave · November 26, 2008 4:09AM

I have a few VF-35's that I like very much.

Nysoto · November 26, 2008 4:21AM

On a strict grading basis, this PCGS VF35 1802 half dollar. It would probably grade EF now. I like this grade, as others have said almost EF but less expensive, which makes sense in draped bust coins.

OnlyGoldIsMoney · November 26, 2008 4:29AM

To me VF35 represents attractive coins at a modest price, like the one below:

RTS · November 27, 2008 12:40AM

what feelings does the grade VF35 conjure up?!

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