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1835 Half Dimes- 4 different Varieties, 12 Die Marriages- Post Yours

The 1835 Half Dime is unique because of the different styles of numbers used on the obverse and reverse dies of that year- Large Date, Large 5C. (LM- 1,2,3,4, 7and 12)- Large Date, Small 5c. (LM- 5, 6)- Small Date, Small 5c. (LM-10, 11)- and Small Date, Large 5c. (LM-8,9). I have examples in varying degrees of preservation of the 4 sub-types and will post them

I would be curious to see if we could post a complete run of the 1835's, minus the LM-12 (or with it, if someone here has one!)

LM-5.1 - Large Date, Small5c:
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LM-3 - Large Date, Large 5c:
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LM- 8.1- Small Date, Large 5c:

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LM- 10 Small Date, Small 5c.:



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LM-6- Large Date, Small 5c:
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Anyone got any to add?image
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-Randy Newmanimage

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I have the 1835 Half's but they are Half Eagles. image

    I think there are only 8 die marriages for the 1835 Half Eagles though, I have 3 so far.

    Sorry this was off topic. image
  • Dude, post those, too! There are probably even fewer who collect half eagles by die variety than half dimes- I'd hate for you to feel left out.image
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Details on the varieties can be found in the gallery section of my website. I'll be looking for more 1835's today at the Santa Clara show.

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  • Those are gorgeous! I especially like the middle one (1B). What are the primary die markers that you look for to attribute the half eagles? I would guess star rotation on the obverse and the relation of the stem and feathers on the reverse to the 5D denomination as in the half dime book?

    Sorry for the obvious question, but what is the standard reference for the series? I see they are numbered by McCloskey numbers so I assume he wrote it.
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1835 LM-11

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    1835 LM-1

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    1835 LM-2

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    1835 LM-4

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    1835 LM-9.2

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1835 LM-7


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    no pics of the others...YET!
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Those are gorgeous! I especially like the middle one (1B). What are the primary die markers that you look for to attribute the half eagles? I would guess star rotation on the obverse and the relation of the stem and feathers on the reverse to the 5D denomination as in the half dime book? >>



    There are variations on the date, the forehead sometimes has 1 or 2 curls, the branch on the reverse sometimes has a berry small or large or not at all in addition to the eagle sometimes having a tongue. You are right about the placement of the 5D, the 5 and the D are often situated differently.

    Yep, John McCloskey is the current living expert on the series. A book is in progress but currently there is not much published.

    Currently known for this date there were 3 obverse and 5 reverses used. Numbers for obverses and letters for reverses:

    1A
    1B
    1C
    1D
    2C
    2D
    3D
    3E

  • No doubt, those are excessively eye-popping coins, Barndog- but where's the LM-12?image
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • We still need an LM-5.2, 8.2, 9.1, and the elusive 12.

    I'd love to see other examples of 1835's from those who are not variety collectors. FREE ATTRIBUTION!!! (doublechecked given my last disastrous foray into mis-attribution)image
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No doubt, those are excessively eye-popping coins, Barndog- but where's the LM-12?image >>



    this one is not mine, but it is an 1835 LM-12 (and btw, you had a typo...we don't need an LM-5.3, but a 5.2 would be nice)



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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LM7

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    LM8.1

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    LM10

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  • Wow- that's the 1st picture of an LM-12 I have seen- I saved it to my computer. Typo fixed.

    I have also just come up with a new term- "thread pimp"- one who responds to his own thread in order to return it to the top of the page. As in-" Right now I'm pimpin' this thread for all it's worth"!image
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • Cladiator, that LM-10 makes mine want to go run and hide.image
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • The only two Capped Bust Half Dimes I've got...

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    100% DAV, Been There and Done That!
    166 BHDs & 154 Die Varieties & Die States...
    Bust Half Nut Club #180

    Festivus Yes! Bagels No!
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  • Dan, the 1832 is an LM-7 (R-2) and I think the 1835 is an LM-8.2 (R-2). Nice HD's!
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage


  • << <i>Dan, the 1832 is an LM-7 (R-2) and I think the 1835 is an LM-8.2 (R-2). Nice HD's! >>



    Thanks, the 1832 was purchased on Ebay (BIN $75.00) and was listed as a Bust Half Dollar. I snatched that baby up pretty quick. image


    Take Care
    Ben
    100% DAV, Been There and Done That!
    166 BHDs & 154 Die Varieties & Die States...
    Bust Half Nut Club #180

    Festivus Yes! Bagels No!
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Dan, the 1832 is an LM-7 (R-2) and I think the 1835 is an LM-8.2 (R-2). Nice HD's! >>



    Thanks, the 1832 was purchased on Ebay (BIN $75.00) and was listed as a Bust Half Dollar. I snatched that baby up pretty quick. image


    Take Care
    Ben >>



    if there is a die crack from the second A in AMERICA to the rim (even if it is the slightest of die cracks), it is the LM-8.2. Otherwise, it is likely the LM-8.1. You may need a loupe, good light, and try various angles to decipher the crack or lack thereof

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