1908 Indian $2.50 Gold MAJOR Clashed Dies
dcarr
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Another neat coin to share. Study the pictures carefully 
Oh and look, he has a brother ! (Same die pair but a later die state now with die chips at the top of "1" and "9"):
Oh and look, he has a brother ! (Same die pair but a later die state now with die chips at the top of "1" and "9"):
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And how, and with what, did you do that blue overlay? That is fantastic. It would have taken me a while to see it other wise.
<< <i>While it may be a clashed die, wouldn't something called "major clashed die" be something that actually jumps out at you? >>
It does... don't you see the Schooner
Seriously Neat-O Die Clash
That's cool. How the beak and eye shows up so well is cool.
Someone already asked this, but is there any premium for such clashed Indians?
-wes
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
but a Clashed Die Gold coin, like this easy-to-find $2.5 Indian,
is a classic "White Elephant".
The value of the coin itself far exceeds the value of a clashed
die like this - these are great to study, and look at closely under
a magnifying glass, but can be easily cherry-picked in any
group of a few dozen or so 1908 $2.5 Indians, in any grade.
Interesting conversation piece......
<< <i>Cool coin!
And how, and with what, did you do that blue overlay? That is fantastic. It would have taken me a while to see it other wise. >>
Thanks,
It took several steps to make the overlay. I used a photo editing program ("Paint Shop Pro" - similar to "PhotoShop").
I took the obverse picture an flipped it vertically. Then reduced the contrast and brightness a bit. Then spilt it into
the three basic channels - red, green, blue.
Then I took the reverse picture and rotated and resized it to match the position of the obverse. Then I boosted the
brightness and contrast considerably to make the edges black and everything else white. Then I converted it to a
negative image (edges white and background black). Then I split the modified reverse image into the three basic
channels - red, green, blue.
Finally, I created a new image by combining the red and green bands from the modified obverse picture, and the blue
band from the modified reverse picture.
<< <i>In my opinion, and sorry if I've used the term way too much,
but a Clashed Die Gold coin, like this easy-to-find $2.5 Indian,
is a classic "White Elephant".
The value of the coin itself far exceeds the value of a clashed
die like this - these are great to study, and look at closely under
a magnifying glass, but can be easily cherry-picked in any
group of a few dozen or so 1908 $2.5 Indians, in any grade.
Interesting conversation piece...... >>
I had't noticed these clashed die Indians before.
But I found both of these in the inventory of one coin dealer recently, and they were priced attractively compared to other non-clashed EF-AU Indian Quarter Eagles. So I would agree that they are interesting but not really rare. The fact that these two are the same die pair, but significantly different die states implies that quite a few were struck between these two.
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<< <i>From my experience, die clashes are more common among Indian half eagles than Indian quarter eagles. Anyone else notice this? >>
I've seen more Indian quarter eagles over the last 2-3 years being advertised as such.
TD
Another at CRO:
<< <i>I would rough guess that perhaps one 1908 $2-1/2 out of 12 is from this clashed die pair.
TD >>
Just like SLQ's I would guess... once you start looking for clashed dies you'll see them everywhere like tootsie rolls
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<< <i>From my experience, die clashes are more common among Indian half eagles than Indian quarter eagles. Anyone else notice this? >>
I've seen more Indian quarter eagles over the last 2-3 years being advertised as such. >>
Personally I have seen more quarter eagles with this and I am a Half Eagle collector. There are some dates where this is much more common than others in both series and 1908 is one of them.