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Update#3: Bogus coin seller on the bay accepts that the 1803 DBHE dollar is a fake but relists the
jdillane
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...on the bay. Good grief. Cast counterfeit with the AMERICAI reverse from 1800. I told seller that I bid to win. Also asked how he knew it was not a fake.
Should be interesting.
Wonder if I will win before the auction is pulled.
If anyone wants to run the bidding up, that's okay with me. Imagine the seller's excitement before it all unravels.
Should be interesting.
Wonder if I will win before the auction is pulled.
If anyone wants to run the bidding up, that's okay with me. Imagine the seller's excitement before it all unravels.
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Item number: 230304649885
Important: Another user may still outbid you, so check this item again in My eBay before it ends.
Time left: 1 day 3 hours
History: 3 bids
Current bid: US $635.00
Your maximum bid: US $10,000.00
edited to paste the above from ebay...
<< <i>Regardless of its authenticity, he isn't allowed to post a value without the coin being in a holder from ANACS, ICG, NGC or PCGS. >>
I missed that. I guess I way over bid!
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Dear jdillane,
a coin dealer came to town for 2 days he offered a great deal for it.i will do whatever if you are the high bidder rest easy.i am considering having them graded.then starting this again.but this is my first time and im computer ignorant or just plain ignorant,thank you for watching i will consider hand delievery to your local bank then thier is no risk what so ever .thank you very much and bid to winn good luck
- pnsmoore
Since I know he is shilling to boot, here is my reply:
Dear pnsmoore,
Thanks, I just hope she doesn't get bid up too much. I usually wait and bid near the end of an auction but I won't be near a PC when your auction ends.
- jdillane
<< <i>That 1893-CC he has listed also looks fake. I think he knows what he's doing. >>
No, he told me he doesn't, Here's his reply to my question implying he's using a shill
Dear casscoins,
must have + feedback .because i dont know what im doing will need someone
with experience to guide me with end auction transactions.thanks..
-pnsmoore
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Since I know he is shilling to boot, here is my reply:
Dear pnsmoore,
Thanks, I just hope she doesn't get bid up too much. I usually wait and bid near the end of an auction but I won't be near a PC when your auction ends.
- jdillane >>
That is brilliant! I assume the "other bidder" may get more active now.
That "brand new" eBay seller sure seems to be getting the hang of it quickly.
Perhaps you should ask him the name of that dealer who offered him a lot of money for it, in case you want to sell it later. My guess is he forgot who offered it, where he was when he "was offered a lot of money for it", etc.
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I knew it would happen.
Interested to see how far this guy takes it and if he asks e-bay to get involved to help him get payed.
http://home.comcast.net/~reidgold/draped_busts/page_7.html
Wonder if seller will try to end early now that the coin is bid up nearly double what he claimed it's worth.
6+ hours to go and the auction still has not been pulled by the powers that be at the bay!
I dare anyone to bid $10,000.01!!
<< <i>6+ hours to go and the auction still has not been pulled by the powers that be at the bay! >>
Yeah, I got the usual canned response thanking for me my report, blah blah blah. Hopefully they pull it! The seller hasn't responded to my questions either...
<< <i>OMG, I can't believe what I'm seeing...$9600! >>
Hey -- fake coins are HOT!
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It's kind of more fun watching you squirm.....
<< <i>I dare anyone to bid $10,000.01!!
It's kind of more fun watching you squirm.....
Hey, the whole point was to have fun at the seller's expense. Not mine!!!!
<< <i>I dare anyone to bid $10,000.01!! It's kind of more fun watching you squirm.....
There is no contract when the coin is fake. this one is not a suspect fake but a clear fake. I wouldn't worry at all and I don't think the OP is squirming much. There are a lot of posters in this thread who seem to think he is planning to buy this coin....--Jerry
I didn't think so either...just having fun with it.
On Oct-31-08 at 00:21:09 PDT, seller added the following information:
AUTHENTIC 1803 Draped Bust Heraldic Eagle Dollar NICE COIN.. A REAL PIECE OF HISTORY, VERY RARE A MUST FOR ANY COLLECTOR.
show the seller the site that lists his coin as a fake, then tell him you will have the Feds figure it out for him, if he can't.
Selling known counterfeits, as real is a crime if I am not mistaken.
<< <i>go back and try a bid retraction.
show the seller the site that lists his coin as a fake, then tell him you will have the Feds figure it out for him, if he can't.
Selling known counterfeits, as real is a crime if I am not mistaken. >>
I won't retract. I figure if ebay does not act timely, I will simply notify seller tomorrow that others have advised me that the coin is a counterfeit (I will send him the link you provided earlier too). My guess is ebay is just slow. It really is a no brainer that this gets pulled.
My mistake was bidding $10K instead of $5K. @ $10K, seller probably realizes I am messin' with him.
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<< <i>go back and try a bid retraction.
show the seller the site that lists his coin as a fake, then tell him you will have the Feds figure it out for him, if he can't.
Selling known counterfeits, as real is a crime if I am not mistaken. >>
I won't retract. I figure if ebay does not act timely, I will simply notify seller tomorrow that others have advised me that the coin is a counterfeit (I will send him the link you provided earlier too). My guess is ebay is just slow. It really is a no brainer that this gets pulled.
My mistake was bidding $10K instead of $5K. @ $10K, seller probably realizes I am messin' with him. >>
You can't retract. It's less than 12 hours before the end of the auction. Your window of being able to retract has passed.
Bidders:5 Bids:5 Time left:5 hours 1 min 15 secs
You're currently the highest bidder, but you're only one bid from letting it get away.
jdillane( 1431) US $10,000.00 Nov-03-08 15:47:59 PST
o***o( 56) US $9,900.00 Nov-04-08 14:54:34 PST
s***r( 1054) US $9,500.00 Nov-04-08 08:14:13 PST
6***5( 0 ) US $625.00 Nov-02-08 10:09:41 PST
b***s( 783) US $555.00 Oct-31-08 04:47:43 PDT
Starting Price US $500.00 Oct-30-08 21:00:08 PDT
I reported, CRO reported, doh reported, Dorkgirl reported (at least), $10K item, seller with zip feedback ... unbelievable!
They've pulled listings much faster than this before - with much less to go on.
The folks at the Bay of E must be watching the early election returns...
Mike
<< <i>This is a whole lot more fun than watching election returns. >>
I am having so much fun, I bid again!
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Per Ebay: The seller has marked this item as "Payment Received" on Nov-05-08.
That's odd.
Must admit, I thought ebay would not be so slow to act on an obvious fake coin. Shameful.
-Randy Newman