As if the weak strike and other scratches are not enough..who here also questions the mint mark? Looks a little strong compared to the rest of the coin.
WS
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There was more than one die used to make 1914-D's, therefore mintmark position is not really a good diagnostic
The mintmark does look 'funny' although that could be a result of whatever was done to the coin, which I would vote included at least a harsh cleaning, if not more.
Don't get me wrong... The coin has plenty not to like about it - I just don't think it is fake. Seller trying to pass it off as though he isn't sure if its been cleaned or not.. well... DUH.
Not sure if it's altered or not. If he had better pics of the MM that would help, the real 14-D cent's have a unique shaped center of the D.
The woodgrain looks more like cleaning, it changes direction near the coat and date and looks like cleaning. Real woodgrain continues onto the rim, on this coin some does and some doesn't so it might be a mix of woodgrain and cleaning.
I'd never bid on that, if it was ok the seller should have had it graded.
<< <i>Not sure if it's altered or not. If he had better pics of the MM that would help, the real 14-D cent's have a unique shaped center of the D.
The woodgrain looks more like cleaning, it changes direction near the coat and date and looks like cleaning. Real woodgrain continues onto the rim, on this coin some does and some doesn't so it might be a mix of woodgrain and cleaning.
I'd never bid on that, if it was ok the seller should have had it graded. >>
Best he'd be able to do is get it authenticated by a net grading service or as "genuine". It is a $250 coin tops slabbed as genuine/cleaned (IMHO)... Not sure I see the point in getting it slabbed other than flipping it and at that point you won't get any money out of it. If he can't sell it raw, I'd expect to see it a month down the road in a genuine holder.
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The mintmark does look 'funny' although that could be a result of whatever was done to the coin, which I would vote included at least a harsh cleaning, if not more.
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<< <i>There was more than one die used to make 1914-D's, therefore mintmark position is not really a good diagnostic >>
Well, that's a rare variety then
The NGC one looks high and centered to me.
Edited to add:
Don't get me wrong... The coin has plenty not to like about it - I just don't think it is fake. Seller trying to pass it off as though he isn't sure if its been cleaned or not.. well... DUH.
<< <i>A big keydate coin, in midgrade raw is a red flag for me. I ask myself why isnt this slabbed. >>
No one will slab it. It has an altered mintmark. I just realized that.
If he had better pics of the MM that would help, the real 14-D cent's have a unique shaped center of the D.
The woodgrain looks more like cleaning, it changes direction near the coat and date and looks like cleaning. Real woodgrain continues onto the rim, on this coin some does and some doesn't so it might be a mix of woodgrain and cleaning.
I'd never bid on that, if it was ok the seller should have had it graded.
<< <i>Not sure if it's altered or not.
If he had better pics of the MM that would help, the real 14-D cent's have a unique shaped center of the D.
The woodgrain looks more like cleaning, it changes direction near the coat and date and looks like cleaning. Real woodgrain continues onto the rim, on this coin some does and some doesn't so it might be a mix of woodgrain and cleaning.
I'd never bid on that, if it was ok the seller should have had it graded. >>
Best he'd be able to do is get it authenticated by a net grading service or as "genuine". It is a $250 coin tops slabbed as genuine/cleaned (IMHO)... Not sure I see the point in getting it slabbed other than flipping it and at that point you won't get any money out of it. If he can't sell it raw, I'd expect to see it a month down the road in a genuine holder.
Harshly cleaned, whizzed and/or brillo padded. No chance that it is simply a woodgrain planchet.
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That is what the streaks remind me of - paintbrush strokes. Just a thought.
Added: Notice the varied direction of the streaks on the Ebay coin as opposed to OneCent's woodgraining (above).
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