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Question for those that know PCGS crossover and "bodybags" (aka DNC)

BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
So, I sent in some coins with my 8 submissions for the collector's club. Figured to do it before I forgot and it expired.

Anyway, I am ok with some of them not crossing. Wish they would, but I am happy with the coins and the holders they are in at that cost/grade, and can understand PCGS being a bit skittish on crossing without seeing the coin raw.

The question I have, and I have included a picture w/ 2 of the "bodybag tags" is that, under 2 of them, is a white sticker with nothing on it, while under the rest (that DNC), there is printing on them.

For instance, the 1881 in the picture was a blank white sticker and a DNC across the outter sticker.
The 1958-D has a barcode on the white sticker underneath, then the coin serial number and some other info. Here is what it looks like:

12478157
6/1 20237739
MS
1958-D 50C
6675

So, does that mean that, at one point, the ones with the info on the underlying sticker were actually "good to go" on the cross and it was at some finalization point they were nuked?
Does that mean the couple with no info on the bottom sticker were never close?

Thanks for any info if anyone actually knows.

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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    Got pics of the coins? especially the Franklin half?
    "It is what it is."
  • One thing bugs me about your pictures. Did you submit the coins raw or as a crossover?

    From all the coins that I have submitted as crossovers, I get the usual "10 choice checkbox" on rejections.



  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure, but it might be a function of one coin having a defect (Questionable Color) and
    the other just not making the grade.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One thing bugs me about your pictures. Did you submit the coins raw or as a crossover?

    From all the coins that I have submitted as crossovers, I get the usual "10 choice checkbox" on rejections. >>



    Mike, from the title "PCGS crossover and "bodybags" (aka DNC) image
    They were all NGC+1 PCI (the half) and submitted in holder.
    I didn't feel like cracking out a MPL, a PR67 merc, etc image

    PC - no pics for the coins uploaded yet

    Coinjunkie - that's part of what I am wondering.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment



  • << <i>

    << <i>One thing bugs me about your pictures. Did you submit the coins raw or as a crossover?

    From all the coins that I have submitted as crossovers, I get the usual "10 choice checkbox" on rejections. >>



    Mike, from the title "PCGS crossover and "bodybags" (aka DNC) image
    They were all NGC+1 PCI (the half) and submitted in holder.
    I didn't feel like cracking out a MPL, a PR67 merc, etc image

    PC - no pics for the coins uploaded yet

    Coinjunkie - that's part of what I am wondering. >>



    Amazing. I never got the bodybag tags when I did crossovers.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I called 'em "bodybags" but they really aren't...they are just DNC and with a flip and label rubberbanded over the original holder.
    I never had them before either...first time I have had any not cross.

    Anyways...just wondering if anyone knows why I see text on the white label underneath the blue one ....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bumping to see if anyone knows....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I really liked it when the DNC tags would come in with the PCGS grade on them!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,951 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I really liked it when the DNC tags would come in with the PCGS grade on them! >>



    From my last two crossover attempts........


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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GB, I wish I had those notes on mine so I could have an idea....
    I remember someone posting that they were doing that, for awhile, and I should have sent mine in earlier, I guess. image
    It now costs $20 per to get the notes on the attempts, at least, it appears that way from looking at the submission form.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,951 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>GB, I wish I had those notes on mine so I could have an idea....
    I remember someone posting that they were doing that, for awhile, and I should have sent mine in earlier, I guess. image
    It now costs $20 per to get the notes on the attempts, at least, it appears that way from looking at the submission form. >>



    Bochiman, 4 of those were from the infamous crossover submission that was holding up yours!! image

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bochiman,

    Looking at the picture again, it appears that the bottom label w/o the serial number
    had something affixed to it and ripped off, taking a layer of paper with it. I surmise
    that perhaps the wrong top label was stuck onto it, and you lost the printing when
    the error was corrected. I wouldn't read any further significance into it. FWIW.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bochiman,

    Looking at the picture again, it appears that the bottom label w/o the serial number
    had something affixed to it and ripped off, taking a layer of paper with it. I surmise
    that perhaps the wrong top label was stuck onto it, and you lost the printing when
    the error was corrected. I wouldn't read any further significance into it. FWIW. >>



    If it were just the 2 of them, I might think something like that. It was 4 or 5 of them though.....lot of the same mistake for that happen

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Bochiman,

    Looking at the picture again, it appears that the bottom label w/o the serial number
    had something affixed to it and ripped off, taking a layer of paper with it. I surmise
    that perhaps the wrong top label was stuck onto it, and you lost the printing when
    the error was corrected. I wouldn't read any further significance into it. FWIW. >>



    If it were just the 2 of them, I might think something like that. It was 4 or 5 of them though.....lot of the same mistake for that happen >>



    The way I read your OP was that 2 of them had the "blank" bottom labels. If so, maybe
    it was a simple case of swapping the top label on those, then pulling them off, and
    correcting the mistake. If there were more than 2, then I'm out of ideas. Either way,
    I think I'm done posting to this thread... image

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