Aother ebayer to block...

Raybob15239 · October 20, 2008 7:04AM

There is a 1892 S Morgan up on the bay (item Number 110290626896). The pictures are absolute crap, but the reverse appears to be the 1921 reverse, which would mena that this coin is a counterfiet.

I sent the seller, mystery309, an email thru ebay's system to let him know that the coin appeared to be a fake. Rather than describe the response and the following exchange, I'll just post them all below:

My intial message:

Dear mystery309,

FYI, your 92S appears to be a counterfiet. The reverse is completely wrong. Just thought that you should know.

- raybob15239

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Dear raybob15239,

what was the ?

- mystery309

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Dear mystery309,

My message was that the coin appears to be a counterfiet. The reverse is wrong. I was just letting you know. (The reverse is a 1921 Morgan Reverse- a one-year only reverse. A genuine 1892 S would have a slanted arrow feather, not parallel.

- raybob15239

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Dear raybob15239,

Ok i do not know what your motives are but you all keep writing and i will keep copy and pasting them to trust and safety.Just for your information the coin was bought by me from ne of the largest collectors and sellers on ebay.But you keep writing as i am hoping that all your harrassing emails will land you all where you belong OFF EBAY

- mystery309

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Dear mystery309,

Hey, all I was saying was that it looked like the coin was not genuine. I was trying to give you a heads up. I have no agenda and am not harassing you. I looked at ther coin as a potential purchase and the reverse picture looked wrong to me. As a courtesy, I tried to gove you a heads up. I didn't report you to ebay, or do anything to kill your auction. I just tried to warn you that there may be a problem. So go ahead and report me to ebay for trying to help you out. Geez... last time I try to be helpful.

- raybob15239

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Dear raybob15239,

Dear Sir,Your first email stated that the coin was a fake.I have the email and have sent it to ebay as with all your harassing emails you have sent and not once untill now has your tone been in a informative one,all other emails were accussing me of selling fake coins.So yes i have reprted you to ebay and will continue to do so.To try and hide now behind the pretence that you were interested in the coin is a joke and you are not only a disgrace to yourself but to ebay.John

- mystery309

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Dear mystery309,

Whatever. I tried to warn you of a possible fake. You never engaged me in conversation; you just reported ME to ebay and then got nasty with me. I could have just gone to ebay and reported a counterfiet; I didn't. I contacted you directly. I didn't send you any harrassing emails. I didn't accuse you of selling fake coins. I tried to warn you about one I saw that appeared to be counterfiet. John, you are a jerk, plain and simple. Report me to ebay for calling you that, too.

- raybob15239

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Dear raybob15239,

To pusshead,you did and i will be happy to and did your mother have any kids that wern:t mentaly challenged.

- mystery309

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Dear mystery309,

Grow up.

- raybob15239

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I don't think that I was "harassing" in any way. I don't think that I was out of line calling him a jerk, either. In any event, add him to your radar!

blu62vette · October 20, 2008 7:07AM

Well if he bought it off ebay it has to be real!!!

Walmann · October 20, 2008 7:09AM

Seems that life in general is a mystery to mystery309.

doh · October 20, 2008 7:12AM

Well, real or not, the coin is polished beyond belief and barely worth more than silver.

BlindedByEgo · October 20, 2008 7:12AM

I can say for certain three things: The coin is a highly polished, circulated POC; it is overpriced by $6888; and he is a jerk.

19Lyds · October 20, 2008 7:15AM

Can you or someone else please post descriptive pictures of the two different reverses? I'm just not clear on what the differences are and I'd like to play with this fellow too!

19Lyds · October 20, 2008 7:28AM

I think I figured it out.

On the fletching, the top fletch is relatively straight on the 1921 compared to the fletch on earlier years which has a much sharper angle to it.

Right?

Edited due to a dyslexical response!

Connecticoin · October 20, 2008 7:33AM

Actually, the coin might not be fake -- the reverse does not look like a 21-S, just appears polished to death, as is the rest of the coin.

boucharda · October 20, 2008 7:42AM

Added to the blocked list just for being a dork...

19Lyds · October 20, 2008 7:42AM

A 1921-S on the left and an 1897 on the Right!

And if thats the case then the coin in the auction appears to have the 1921 reverse but that could just be the angle of the hilighting.

But I have a question, how do you block a seller? The only way I know of is self restraint by not bidding.

jdillane · October 20, 2008 7:42AM

This is the seller that called me out on his auction for a 1795 DBSE dollar (see my post from yesterday - he finally pulled the auction but alleges that he sold it off-ebay). He is a crass SOB (sorry to any other SOB's that may be offended by being lumped in with this chump).

At least he did not claim that you have a row boat butt!!

jdillane · October 20, 2008 7:44AM

Others have already asserted she's a fake but there seems to be some dispute in that regard. I tried to bid melt but I have been blocked!

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=684117&highlight_key=y&keyword1=1795

boucharda · October 20, 2008 8:12AM

<< But I have a question, how do you block a seller? >>

Go to the site map.....Under "sell" there's a link for blocking

19Lyds · October 20, 2008 8:15AM

<< 

<< But I have a question, how do you block a seller? >>

Go to the site map.....Under "sell" there's a link for blocking >>

This does not block someone as a seller, it only prevents someone from bidding or buying something from me.

DorkGirl · October 20, 2008 8:17AM

I really don't see how you can tell anything from those crappy pics.....

PerryHall · October 20, 2008 8:18AM

No good deed goes unpunished.

Mar327 · October 20, 2008 8:25AM

<< I really don't see how you can tell anything from those crappy pics.....

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My thoughts exactly! How are you guys seeing that??

boucharda · October 20, 2008 8:58AM

<< This does not block someone as a seller, it only prevents someone from bidding or buying something from me >>

Ooops......correct....Probably should actually read a post before commenting on it

Bochiman · October 20, 2008 9:14AM

<< 

<< 

<< But I have a question, how do you block a seller? >>

Go to the site map.....Under "sell" there's a link for blocking >>

This does not block someone as a seller, it only prevents someone from bidding or buying something from me.

>>

You can't, but what I do, since my "Favorites Seller List" isn't full, is I add folks to it and put comments in there such as "Don't buy from this dorkus as they are a cheat/moron/etc"

GrumpyEd · October 20, 2008 9:27AM

Is it the same seller as the 1795 $ in this thread?

1795 dollar thread

CoinKing1969 · October 20, 2008 10:37AM

From the pictures you can not tell much from the fuzzy, out of focus angles. The comments seem a little bitter from both parties. Probally alot more from the seller. Raybob was trying to tell Mystery that his coin looked counterfiet. Raybob is correct about the 21 reverse, but how you can see that last feather is beyond my 24" screen. Mystery really got defensive and jumped the gun and reported to Ebay and started to call names(childish). My collection of thoughts are that the coin is either highly cleaned and polished or Chinese counterfiet. Either way, I wouldn't buy from such an individual.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · October 20, 2008 11:42AM

I had contacted him too. He's a jerk.

oxy8890 · October 20, 2008 12:17PM

<< 

<< 

<< But I have a question, how do you block a seller? >>

Go to the site map.....Under "sell" there's a link for blocking >>

This does not block someone as a seller, it only prevents someone from bidding or buying something from me.

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Lee,

You make a very solid point. I believe it is impossible to "block" a seller. But I believe anyone who is this unprofessional as a seller, would be someone you would want to keep off your buyer's list as well. JMHO.

As far as blocking him as a seller, that would be manual bidding autonomy!

Raybob15239 · October 20, 2008 8:20PM

His latest, in rply to my "grow up":

Dear raybob15239,

Me why are you doing this.You have nothing else to do but send rude emails and start trouble.Look at my feedback i never treat people like you and do not understand why you think you have the right to continue to harass me when i have done nothing to you.YOU WERE THE ONE THAT STARTED THE NAME CALLING,YOU WERE THE ONE THAT SENT THE RUDE EMAILS.GO AWAY AND YOU WILL NEVER GROW UP THAT IS QUITE OBVIOUS!

- mystery309

Can some one please tell me where I was rude? I called him a jerk only after he went ballistic on me.

jdillane · October 21, 2008 12:51AM

<< Is it the same seller as the 1795 $ in this thread?

1795 dollar thread >>

Yes, same seller. He probably a nice guy and we simply misunderstand him.

zeebob · October 21, 2008 3:24AM

mystery309 blocked.

BXBOY143 · October 21, 2008 4:28AM

before this thread was started a couple days ago i reported him to ebay twice! for being a fake coin what do they do...nothing what a suprise...

i should bid and leave a neg hahaha

slipgate · October 21, 2008 4:43AM

Who would be dumb enough to pay $6900 for a key date coin with pictures like that and not certified? Maybe he is hoping someone will take a chance and offer $1500 which he will gladly snap up?

UtahCoin · October 21, 2008 4:46AM

<< Maybe he is hoping someone will take a chance and offer $1500 which he will gladly snap up? >>

Dang, I offered $12 and he turned me down.

barbershopper · October 21, 2008 5:33AM

I just had to weigh in on this one.

YOU GRADE THE COIN AND MAKE AN OFFER
I'm sure any TPG will be willing to grade any coin from pictures!
Especially ones as good as these.

ALL SERIOUS OFFERS WILL BE CONSIDERED
What other kind of offers are there? Jocular?

I WILL PROVIDE OTHER PICTURES TO SERIOUS BUYERS
Same as above.

WE HAVE 100% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION AND FEEDBACK
I guess you have to round off 99.7% to 100, right?

Well, he's a Mystery to me!!

Oops! forgot this one. It must be in code. I couldn't see it.

Return policy not specified.
Read item description for any reference to return policy.

JET

coinnuttius · October 21, 2008 10:42AM

Sorry, what's the point? Fraudbay is as fraudbay does. Talking to fraudulent sellers is not worth the time. It may not even BE the seller (hijacked account). Just report it, if it does not get taken down, do not be insulted... fraudbay is as fraudbay does.

BXBOY143 · October 21, 2008 10:51AM

<< Sorry, what's the point? Fraudbay is as fraudbay does. Talking to fraudulent sellers is not worth the time. It may not even BE the seller (hijacked account). Just report it, if it does not get taken down, do not be insulted... fraudbay is as fraudbay does. >>

before this thread was started a couple days ago i reported him to ebay twice! for being a fake coin what do they do...nothing what a suprise...

19Lyds · October 27, 2008 5:40AM

This auction is no longer available.

Did it get pulled or what?

19Lyds · October 27, 2008 5:42AM

Looks like it was put up under another auction number.

messydesk · October 27, 2008 6:15AM

Reverse is not that of a 1921, but the coin looks like such a diabolical piece of shyte that I'm happy to let him run up listing fees on something he'll never sell for more than melt.

Broadstruck · October 27, 2008 6:24AM

To pusshead,you did and i will be happy to and did your mother have any kids that wern:t mentaly challenged.

Someone forgot to take their medication... a bit thick headed too!

Aother ebayer to block...

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