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Ebay auction 320308777745 how can this be a DD error?

Is this a member here or a person that sells coins and doesn't know what a Double Dutch Die error is?

Now I thought ebay had rules on stating a fact and not having a 3rd party verify it.image

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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a legitimate DDO to me.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>Looks like a legitimate DDO to me.

    -Paul >>



    Paul I thought Double Dies were suppose to have the double vison look, this coin looks like die weaking the poors mans version. I don't think any TPG would slab it as a Double DIE would they? thanks George
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    It is a doubled die.

    Doubled dies are varieties not errors. image



    I'm not sure if that one got listed on coppercoins but it's listed by Coneca:

    die-2 on Coneca



    check out the similar ones on coppercoins
    Ed
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    I stand corrected, I guess @$7.50 a pop it is not what you call a high valued varity? Thanks for the help guys. I have a few like this in earlier years and was told I have a poor mans verison. You learn something everyday.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    There's so many minor DDO varieties for 2006 that only the bigger ones get much money.

    Still fun to find them and ID them for learning but 2006 was such a crazy year that nobody seems to try getting all of them.

    There's some big ones from 2006 that sell for a lot so while hunting those you might find some of those $7.50 ones.

    image

    Check out this one, they get big $:


    This one's nice


    the doubled earlobe


    another nice one
    Ed
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>There's so many minor DDO varieties for 2006 that only the bigger ones get much money.

    Still fun to find them and ID them for learning but 2006 was such a crazy year that nobody seems to try getting all of them.

    There's some big ones from 2006 that sell for a lot so while hunting those you might find some of those $7.50 ones.

    image

    Check out this one, they get big $:


    This one's nice


    the doubled earlobe


    another nice one >>




    Thanks Grumpy nice DD's.

    On another note do you think it's right for the seller I mentioned to say that this is a ERROR and Variety in the same sense? Very misleading to the putts like myself that think all sellers should play fair on ebay.image
  • <<doesn't know what a Double Dutch Die error is?>>

    It is a Dutch auction, not a Dutch error.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    I guess they lump them all together as errors since it wasn't intentional. However people think about it is ok.

    Atleast that seller wasn't trying to hawk some strike doubled coin as a DDO as they often try on ebay image



    Ed
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I stand corrected, I guess @$7.50 a pop it is not what you call a high valued varity? Thanks for the help guys. I have a few like this in earlier years and was told I have a poor mans verison. You learn something everyday. >>



    Here's the thing: doubled dies on earlier coins are a result of more than one impression of a hub into a working die. The new varieties look a little different because those dies were produced in a single squeeze process. I'm still not sure I understand exactly how a die gets doubled when it only receives one impression from a hub, but one theory I've read is that if the hub begins the single squeeze out of alignment and then snaps into position you could get what appears to be doubling in the die.

    Regardless of how they are created, the newer varieties still exhibit notching at the edges between the multiple impressions (look at the images on the auction you linked). What you don't really see any more are division lines. These newer varieties are not the same thing as strike doubling, which is caused by the die shearing the devices on a coin as it releases from being struck, and they are not the same thing as "poor man's doubling", which is caused by overpolishing or die erosion.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • BXBOY143BXBOY143 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭
    DUTCH AUCTION...150 AVAILABLE...ALL DD?? image
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    If you got the boxes in 2006 (mostly Feb-March) and got a lucky box you could get a bunch of them.

    image
    Ed
  • BXBOY143BXBOY143 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭


    << <i>If you got the boxes in 2006 (mostly Feb-March) and got a lucky box you could get a bunch of them.

    image >>



    SOOO WOULD THAT NOT MAKE THEM NOT AS DESIREABLE.....$7.99 AINT MUCH THESE DAYS BUT FOR A PENNY THERE ARE PLENTY OF....IMHO THAT IS BOGUS....
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JMHO, but if I have to use a 10X to see the doubling then I say "Pass".

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