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Why was the mint mark location changed for the Wartime Nickels?

All I've read is that they moved it a above the building on the reverse and made the marks bigger so they could be distinguished from regular nickels. But why would the mint want them to be distinguishable in the first place? Wouldn't that just give another reason for collectors to pull them out of circulation?
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    The original plan was for the government to recover them from circulation after the war, and the change in mintmarks would make that job easier.

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  • CheeseGuyCheeseGuy Posts: 191 ✭✭
    That sort of makes sense, but it doesnt' seem like it would be worth the costs associated with pulling them back out just to recover the silver (if that's why they wanted to).
    I like cheese, notes, and coins. In that order.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    I suspect it's one of those things that sounded good at the time, but later on they realized it wasn't going to work.

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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    to catch counterfeiters like Henning
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    kranky's correct. The oversize mintmark seemed like a good idea at the time. (I think it was the idea of the Philadelphia Mint superintendent – Dressel.) The mint was concerned that the silver alloy coins would be difficult to distinguish from the standard alloy. However, experience quickly showed that they were easily separated by color or electromagnetic signature.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That sort of makes sense, but it doesnt' seem like it would be worth the costs associated with pulling them back out just to recover the silver (if that's why they wanted to). >>



    Not really since minimum wage in 1946 was very minimal. Probably way less than a buck an hour and folks could pull a lot of nickels in an hour! As aan example, I think in 1961/62 minimum wage was $1.25 per hour.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,060 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The relocation of the mint mark is secondary to the increase in size of the mint mark. They are huge. Are there any other US coins with larger mint marks?

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  • When I was young and didn't know any better, I wrote the mint about 1947 inquiring about that moved strange large P mint mark.
    They told me it stood for Philadelphia.
  • direwolf1972direwolf1972 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    My first full time job in 1967 paid me a whopping $2.22 per while a good wage was $3.25 per. $5.00 was unheard of for the working class! >>



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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I think this is a portion of a CoinResources article:

    Shortly thereafter, the onset of World War II prompted the rationing of many commodities, certain metals among them. Nickel was highly valued for use in armor plating, and Congress ordered the removal of this metal from the five-cent piece, effective October 8, 1942. From that date, and lasting through the end of 1945, five-cent pieces bore the regular design but were minted from an alloy of copper, silver and manganese. It was anticipated that these emergency coins would be withdrawn from circulation after the war, so a prominent distinguishing feature was added. Coins from all three mints bore very large mintmarks above the dome of Monticello, and the letter 'P' was used as a mintmark for the first time on a U. S. coin. These "war nickels" proved quite satisfactory in circulation, and they were not immediately withdrawn. Instead, they remained a familiar sight until the mid-1960s, when rising silver prices caused them to be hoarded for their bullion value.
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  • MillerJWMillerJW Posts: 649 ✭✭
    Very informative!!! Thanks for the great answers... image
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