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Interesting Rainbow Olympic Dollar. Comments welcome

MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
I looked at this coin and the color was reminiscent of the cellophane toning seen on proof walkers. Turn the coin in the light and the color seems to dissipate . Has anyone seen this before on a modern coin?


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  • Great looking imageimage
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks nice. I have a pretty colorful one in my type set. I bought it in a small velvet lined box holder.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i have seen some of these tone but i fail to comprehend how exactly the coin could tone only in the fields and not on the lettering or devices. that fact alone makes me believe it's artificially toned, especially the way that the color runs right up to the devices/lettering but doesn't seem to touch anything. i would think that to be a physical impossibility!!!!!! i have plenty of nicely toned Proof Jefferson Nickels and other coins and the tone never, never, never just settles into the fields.

    the areas of real suspicion are inside of the letters and the arches on the obverse. the coin looks to me almost like it's been enameled like somne of the trash that flea markets peddle.
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    nah, thats gotta be photoshopped
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    Photoshopped and a little innocent spam as well!image
    edited: cause fc corrected me
  • fcfc Posts: 12,796 ✭✭✭
    Orientation of image: 1
    File change date and time: 2008:10:04 15:00:43
    Image description:
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    well the pics were in photoshop for cropping and etc... and who knows
    what else.

    my opinion is that i never saw a coin tone like that and it leads me
    to believe i am getting my leg jerked around. the toning is too convienent.
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrD... you got's some splainin' to do... image

    Mine's legit. image
  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
    Not me. Of course I used a program to crop, adjust the size and make any changes I needed but the coin looks remarkably like the pictures in my opinion.


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  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
    I guess we can't play guess the grade anymore.image
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks nice. I have a pretty colorful one in my type set. I bought it in a small velvet lined box holder.
    image >>



    I like this one a lot better! image
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,796 ✭✭✭
    how does that coin rate a 68 with scratches so obvious?
    am i missing something?
  • MrDMrD Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭
    They are more toning streaks than scratches.... and I like mine better image
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    I own a 42 Proof Walker that looks much like this. The difference between the two appears to be that the frosted surfaces of the Olympic coin did not tone, whereas my Walker is not cameo, so the color toned more uniformly.

    Question: Could the cause of the unusual toning possibly be the difference in the way the frosted surface of the coin was treated vice the mirror surface? I suspect so.

    Observation: Olympic coins are some times spectacular. This coin is ok, but not nearly a wonder coin. Years ago Royalty in San Antonio had the most amazing Olympic dollar I can imagine -- hot pink PR 69. It traded at $1000 when that was an obscene price -- I wish I bought it! image
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I can't say i've ever seen toning in the fields that has not affected the devices at all. I also can't say i've ever heard of toning streaks. Two firsts in one thread.

    As far as the fields versus the devices, I think it is possible that smooth polished fields might show certain forms of toning more than frosted devices. I have an IKE that has a rainbow toned rim. The letters are not particularly affected by the flue, but are affected by the brown. Look at the "I" in Liberty. Looks untoned in a field of tone. But this effect is not consistent and some of the devices show color. This IKE got this way in the original box. It now sits in my Dansco. Too bad about the spittle-spots.

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    The things that look like scratches in the devices and fields. Well, they seem to catch the light differently in your two photographs. Sure looks like something scratches would do.
    I guess scratch shaped voids in the toning can look brighter and very scratch like. But how does that explain the things in the devices that show up alternatively brighter/darker in the two photos?



    That is a very nice eagle on the reverse, eh?

    I'm not so certain about the headless statues. That's a traditional olympic thing. It's always looked odd to me.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a very cool looking coin. Usually modern olympic coins bring forth a mighty yawn from me, and the headless torsos on that design give me the willies, but that is really cool.

    I fail to see how the fields could have toned without the devices doing so- it looks too good to be true.

    But if it is really like that in hand, and apparently NGC saw no reason to bag it, I would have to say I thoroughly agree with the star designation, and would think it worthy of a jellybean, too. (If I was into that whole jellybean thing).

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That is a very nice eagle on the reverse, eh?

    I'm not so certain about the headless statues. That's a traditional olympic thing. It's always looked odd to me. >>



    I really like the headless statues! In fact, overall this design is one of my very favorites among the
    modern commems, whereas the previous year's discus thrower was terrible, IMO.
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That is a very cool looking coin. Usually modern olympic coins bring forth a mighty yawn from me, and the headless torsos on that design give me the willies, but that is really cool.

    I fail to see how the fields could have toned without the devices doing so- it looks too good to be true.

    But if it is really like that in hand, and apparently NGC saw no reason to bag it, I would have to say I thoroughly agree with the star designation, and would think it worthy of a jellybean, too. (If I was into that whole jellybean thing). >>



    You are to kind LM..................it's AT all the way! image


    Ray


    PS I have seen this coin (or one very similar) on the 'Bay.
  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks nice. I have a pretty colorful one in my type set. I bought it in a small velvet lined box holder.
    image >>



    I got one like that too!

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  • << <i>i have seen some of these tone but i fail to comprehend how exactly the coin could tone only in the fields and not on the lettering or devices. that fact alone makes me believe it's artificially toned, especially the way that the color runs right up to the devices/lettering but doesn't seem to touch anything. i would think that to be a physical impossibility!!!!!! i have plenty of nicely toned Proof Jefferson Nickels and other coins and the tone never, never, never just settles into the fields.

    the areas of real suspicion are inside of the letters and the arches on the obverse. the coin looks to me almost like it's been enameled like somne of the trash that flea markets peddle. >>



    I agree. I've never seen the frosted device not tone and yet have the field just blasted with color. And, actually, that particular color progression is not looking familiar to me. I'm very suspicious of the nature of this toning, but the grading companies know more than I.
    A lie told often enough becomes the truth. ~Vladimir Lenin
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,447 ✭✭✭
    here's an interesting reverse...not mine...i like the intials "rg" makes me think rgcoinguy is holding out on usimage
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    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I like the one on the right....reminds me a bit of the Golden Dollar collection...oops...I'm not gonna get bammed for mentioning that am I? image

    As far as the original I agree that the lack of toning on the letters and devices leads to AT...that being said it is a pretty coin!

    K

    edited to clarify and add a little...
    ANA LM
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's interesting to note that every coin beside the OP's shows some degree of tone on the lettering and devices, even the Eisenhower Dollar. that fact plus the quality and combination of the color leads me to the conclusion that the coin is without a doubt Artificially Toned.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,447 ✭✭✭
    i think the op's coin had the toning removed only on the devices and letters for appearance and it passed musterimage
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I think it looks cool
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is fitting that an AT coin is in an AT-S holder.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

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