1878-CC Trade Dollar (CC = Chinese counterfeit)

commoncents123 · September 23, 2008 12:51AM

in this case... the CC stands for Chinese Counterfeit

Question...would it fool you? Probably not, I assume, if you're a coin genius like most people here.

I'm giving it away in my BST thread...I feel like a conspirator having it around

tradedollarnut · September 23, 2008 12:54AM

For those who don't know the series, the first and foremost tell is the berry under the eagle's claw - this feature wasn't used after 1876. Even better quality fakes tend to have this flaw.

commoncents123 · September 23, 2008 12:55AM

do you think this is a better quality fake?

GoldenEyeNumismatics · September 23, 2008 12:57AM

<< <i>do you think this is a better quality fake? >>

No

lkeigwin · September 23, 2008 1:02AM

Isn't Chinese Counterfeit redundant?

I think these fakes should be destroyed, or marked in some way. Someone will get caught later on, you know?

commoncents123 · September 23, 2008 1:20AM

It's not illegal to have them or sell them as counterfeits...

But, whoever gets ahold of them next may be scammers.

Is that what you are trying to say?

lkeigwin · September 23, 2008 1:20AM

I don't collect Trade Dollars but I have heard about the berry berry bad ones. I struggle to find the post '76 berry, not knowing exactly what it looks like, which claw, etc.

Anyone care to post pics of no berry and berry? I did a google search on "trade dollar berry" and google asked if I meant "rate dollar berry". Oh yes, that's what I wanted, a rate dollar berry.

commoncents123 · September 23, 2008 1:22AM

The person in China actually posted pictures of a stamped coin (replica), but sent one without a stamp. I'm guessing that's common but I don't know it's the first thing I've bought from over there

lkeigwin · September 23, 2008 1:24AM

<< <i>It's not illegal to have them or sell them as counterfeits...

But, whoever gets ahold of them next may be scammers.

Is that what you are trying to say? >>

Yes. If it's fake, why not make sure it is destroyed or forever obvious to everyone? It hurts our hobby when they are sold at some future time to victims who know no better (or know no berry).

tradedollarnut · September 23, 2008 2:07AM

<< <i>do you think this is a better quality fake? >>

No - this particular item is very poor quality - it wouldn't fool anyone who collects American coins.

The berry in question is under the claw above 900

coolest · September 23, 2008 2:28AM

Is the weight correct?
is it silver?
I have been looking for this date for many years, I actually bought one from china once, but of course it was also a fake (not sold as fake).

commoncents123 · September 23, 2008 2:54AM

It feels real, sounds real when you drop it on a table...i don't know about the precise weight as I don't have a scale that accurate. I doubt it's silver.

notwilight · September 23, 2008 3:07AM

The ones I posted a couple weeks ago are not silver. They tarnised on the way home (according to the guy that bought them) and they sold for well under melt for even 50% silver.

BTW, commoncents. My PM function is broke again. I can only post if I'm not logged in. --Jerry

coindeuce · September 23, 2008 3:24AM

I've got a struck counterfeit that is correct weight, and which originated in Singapore.

1878-CC Trade Dollar (CC = Chinese counterfeit)

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