<< <i><<< << seatedcollector asks: <<< i would worry more about your preference to self insure, how does that work anyway ? >>> Good question, being that eBay says you can't do that unless it's a licensed 3rd party insurance company. It's virtually impossible, not to mention impractical to get 3rd party insurance on coins that are safely sitting in the safe at my home. >> It is only against the policy if you charge a separate fee for it. >>> Right. What I'm asking is where do I find legit insurance that's affordable enough for me to pass it on to my buyers for free? >>
Hugh Wood for expensive coins. For inexpensive coins it isn't worth insuring as they don't lose enough to pay the cost of the insurance. I believe the cost is high because of a fairly high loss rate due to insurance scammers. --Jerry
<< <i><<< << seatedcollector asks: <<< i would worry more about your preference to self insure, how does that work anyway ? >>> Good question, being that eBay says you can't do that unless it's a licensed 3rd party insurance company. It's virtually impossible, not to mention impractical to get 3rd party insurance on coins that are safely sitting in the safe at my home. >>
It is only against the policy if you charge a separate fee for it. >>>
Right. What I'm asking is where do I find legit insurance that's affordable enough for me to pass it on to my buyers for free? >>
You can charge for legit 3rd party insurance (you can't charge if you just put money in a piggy bank waiting for someone to make a claim. I have a policy with DSI insurance that I use when I'm not shipping domestic Registered.
I got a regular today... and she checked with me to be sure she was doing things correctly. And I had a pleasant conversation the whole time. Much better day today.
Reminds me of trying to make a deposit at a local national city, girl almost passed out then yelled out to another teller, "Girl do we gots authority to deposit a million dollar check or do we needs a super..."
You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan
I have been a collector for over mumbly-five years. I learn something new every day.
<< <i>You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan >>
It's small post office in a small community where I keep a low profile. I'm at the PO every day, and packages like this aren't uncommon. I'd rather not be known for what I'm carrying.
<< <i>You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan >>
The problem is that people in the post office know that you ship high value articles and might have more at home or on your person. If they are so inclined, they may follow you or just knock you over the head in teh parking lot to see what else you have.
welcome to the club! The best I have ever had was when I was trying to insure a package for $25,000 via registered mail and the clerk said I could only insure it up to 5k (thinking that since I had to send it priority, I could only insure for 5k). I tried ot explain to her that it was registered and that insurance goes up to 25k, she started getting snippy with me and was throwing the numbers out all over the place. The post office was packed at the time and I would have just walked out but since people knew how much I was trying to insure it for, I didn't feel like I should walk out of there. There is a homeless shelter just across the street from the post office and some rough looking people frequent the post office for handouts. She ended up ringing up the packgae three times, confirming the insurance cost each time before she got it right. I wonder what the people thought seeing me get into my 1980 volvo after that.
I recently found out the girl who was helping me is bipolar. She now wears a new nametag with a different name than her own. She is megga pissy one day and semi-pissy the next. I try to avoid her at all costs.
AlixTcat, I agree, but again my concern is more geared to the employees. I would be more concerned that another employee would over hear it and try snatching the package. I purposely avoid going to anyone who looks untrustworthy to me. If they say next in line and the person looks non-trustworthy I will keep the package in the bag and hold it below the counter and just ask for a few stamps. A few minutes later I will get back in line until I get someone that looks trustworthy. I've heard of a few stories of postal employees stealing on a large scale, so I always take precautions and I'm willing to hang out at a post office for 30 minutes to get a package to the right person. The liklihood of something getting stolen is extremely high, but I rather be safe than sorry.
.......isn't it scary how many clerks and people in service jobs are so common sense challenged???
"government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
<< <i>You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan >>
The problem is that people in the post office know that you ship high value articles and might have more at home or on your person. If they are so inclined, they may follow you or just knock you over the head in teh parking lot to see what else you have. >>
They already know your history of shipping valuable items. They could have set you up or had their friend/s do it at any time over the years. Like it or not the OP is already known and has been for a long time for what he carries.
<< <i>AlixTcat, I agree, but again my concern is more geared to the employees. I would be more concerned that another employee would over hear it and try snatching the package. I purposely avoid going to anyone who looks untrustworthy to me. If they say next in line and the person looks non-trustworthy I will keep the package in the bag and hold it below the counter and just ask for a few stamps. A few minutes later I will get back in line until I get someone that looks trustworthy. I've heard of a few stories of postal employees stealing on a large scale, so I always take precautions and I'm willing to hang out at a post office for 30 minutes to get a package to the right person. The liklihood of something getting stolen is extremely high, but I rather be safe than sorry. >>
Registered packages here are immediately put into a locked drawer beneath the clerks window; pretty tuff to steal those. If you are worried about internal theft just make sure to get plenty of insurance.
At the lottery terminals here there was concern about store clerks checking a customer's ticket and sometimes telling the customer it was not a winner when in reality it was and the clerks would keep the ticket. Whenever a ticket was checked the terminal put out a sound similar to the old dot-matrix printers when it printed a receipt. Apparently enuf folks complained that this was a tipoff to others in line who were afraid of getting robbed or mug cuz they won smoe lottery money. The lottery turned the sound off, but I wonder how the winners expected to hide getting paid their winnings.
Hmmm..I understand the difficulty. Maybe what I do will help. First, like other collectors, I object to Postal employees loudly announcing the value or contents of packages. (Whenever I ship frozen cat nuts to Korea, I put “ball bearings” on the declaration slip – but that’s another story.)
One successful method is: as soon as the clerk has announced the value of your package, you point to the clerks’ work area and say loudly,” Hey! Are those the new extra strength Viagra on your counter. Do they really help your erectile dysfunction?”
Another technique to ensure your anonymity is to always wear a wool ski mask when you enter the post office. You can use sticky notes to tell the clerk what services you want for your packages. This might look a little silly in the summer, but one can’t be too cautious. I’m always escorted right to the front of the line this way and no one knows my identity.
Yet another method is to have someone else take the packages for you. I find that the guys hanging out at the local 7-11 are eager to help. Just tell them what to do, how much to declare the package is worth and give them postage money. Doesn’t matter what name or amount the postal worker shouts out….Although some packages do seem to take a long time to arrive – in fact, none that I’ve shipped that way have arrived yet. Must be the hurricanes…..
Oh, look! The guy with the big smile wants me to try on a new jacket. Funny – usually the arms go in the back, not the front….
Given a preference I'd prefer they not do it, but for an isolated incident just slip them a note asking them not to do it. If it happens again then go to their boss or avoid them.
<< <i>They already know your history of shipping valuable items. They could have set you up or had their friend/s do it at any time over the years. Like it or not the OP is already known and has been for a long time for what he carries. >>
I trust the clerks... it's the customers that overheard that I don't want to know.
<< <i>.......isn't it scary how many clerks and people in service jobs are so common sense challenged??? >>
And some here have never made a mistake in their entire lives? >>
...........maybe once.
"government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
<<<I have a policy with DSI insurance that I use when I'm not shipping domestic Registered.>>> Damn, that's some great rates, $1.05 for $1,000 coverage. That was for non-policy holders.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
<< <i>And they had to go through testing to get into the post office job. There is one local lady at the post office, I'm not sure how she ever got the job. One day she was complaining about the nickle, and how it has all the new pictures, and it just confused her, she didn't like it all. >>
If they are a minority, they get extra free points on their tests. Go figure!!!! Also in a union job, promotions are typically granted on seniorityy and possessing the minumum qualifications necessary for the job grade. Thus if you are the senior person and meet the minumum criteria to get the job, you get the job.. But in reality what the public ends up with is a minimally qualified workforce.
This my opinion but it is based on working in a union job for 14 years. It used to burn my butt when the minimally qualified slacker working right next to me got the same pay and benefits as me when I was doing twice the work. Eventually the company shifted 80% of the jobs overseas.
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<< <i>Reminds me of, "I need a price check on Super Tampons, the 100 pack in aisle 7."
Some clerks/cashiers just don't get it!!!
Yeah or that tube of lube or that package of....
<< <i><<< << seatedcollector asks: <<< i would worry more about your preference to self insure, how does that work anyway ? >>> Good question, being that eBay says you can't do that unless it's a licensed 3rd party insurance company. It's virtually impossible, not to mention impractical to get 3rd party insurance on coins that are safely sitting in the safe at my home. >> It is only against the policy if you charge a separate fee for it. >>> Right. What I'm asking is where do I find legit insurance that's affordable enough for me to pass it on to my buyers for free? >>
Hugh Wood for expensive coins. For inexpensive coins it isn't worth insuring as they don't lose enough to pay the cost of the insurance. I believe the cost is high because of a fairly high loss rate due to insurance scammers. --Jerry
<< <i><<< << seatedcollector asks:
<<< i would worry more about your preference to self insure, how does that work anyway ? >>>
Good question, being that eBay says you can't do that unless it's a licensed 3rd party insurance company.
It's virtually impossible, not to mention impractical to get 3rd party insurance on coins that are safely sitting in the safe at my home. >>
It is only against the policy if you charge a separate fee for it. >>>
Right. What I'm asking is where do I find legit insurance that's affordable enough for me to pass it on to my buyers for free? >>
You can charge for legit 3rd party insurance (you can't charge if you just put money in a piggy bank waiting for someone to make a claim. I have a policy with DSI insurance that I use when I'm not shipping domestic Registered.
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan
<< <i>You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan >>
It's small post office in a small community where I keep a low profile. I'm at the PO every day, and packages like this aren't uncommon. I'd rather not be known for what I'm carrying.
<< <i>You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan >>
The problem is that people in the post office know that you ship high value articles and might have more at home or on your person. If they are so inclined, they may follow you or just knock you over the head in teh parking lot to see what else you have.
And BAJJERFAN is a moron for making the AIDS "joke".
I recently found out the girl who was helping me is bipolar. She now wears a new nametag with a different name than her own. She is megga pissy one day and semi-pissy the next. I try to avoid her at all costs.
.......isn't it scary how many clerks and people in service jobs are so common sense challenged???
<< <i>
<< <i>You were shipping the items. Therefore they would no longer be in your possession. I see no problem in him announcing the package value because you were giving it to a clerk, not taking it with you into the parking lot. Where do you see a problem in him announcing the value to the other clerk?
Were you afraid there might be a nefarious customer in line behind you who would follow you home, wait for you to get another high dollar package ready and then rob you when you got into your car? Not going to happen. Crooks don't hang out in PO's waiting to overhear values of packages being shipped.
I'm afraid you have made much ado about nothing. No harm, no foul.
Jonathan >>
The problem is that people in the post office know that you ship high value articles and might have more at home or on your person. If they are so inclined, they may follow you or just knock you over the head in teh parking lot to see what else you have. >>
They already know your history of shipping valuable items. They could have set you up or had their friend/s do it at any time over the years. Like it or not the OP is already known and has been for a long time for what he carries.
<< <i>.......isn't it scary how many clerks and people in service jobs are so common sense challenged???
And some here have never made a mistake in their entire lives?
<< <i>AlixTcat, I agree, but again my concern is more geared to the employees. I would be more concerned that another employee would over hear it and try snatching the package. I purposely avoid going to anyone who looks untrustworthy to me. If they say next in line and the person looks non-trustworthy I will keep the package in the bag and hold it below the counter and just ask for a few stamps. A few minutes later I will get back in line until I get someone that looks trustworthy. I've heard of a few stories of postal employees stealing on a large scale, so I always take precautions and I'm willing to hang out at a post office for 30 minutes to get a package to the right person. The liklihood of something getting stolen is extremely high, but I rather be safe than sorry. >>
Registered packages here are immediately put into a locked drawer beneath the clerks window; pretty tuff to steal those. If you are worried about internal theft just make sure to get plenty of insurance.
At the lottery terminals here there was concern about store clerks checking a customer's ticket and sometimes telling the customer it was not a winner when in reality it was and the clerks would keep the ticket. Whenever a ticket was checked the terminal put out a sound similar to the old dot-matrix printers when it printed a receipt. Apparently enuf folks complained that this was a tipoff to others in line who were afraid of getting robbed or mug cuz they won smoe lottery money. The lottery turned the sound off, but I wonder how the winners expected to hide getting paid their winnings.
One successful method is: as soon as the clerk has announced the value of your package, you point to the clerks’ work area and say loudly,” Hey! Are those the new extra strength Viagra on your counter. Do they really help your erectile dysfunction?”
Another technique to ensure your anonymity is to always wear a wool ski mask when you enter the post office. You can use sticky notes to tell the clerk what services you want for your packages. This might look a little silly in the summer, but one can’t be too cautious. I’m always escorted right to the front of the line this way and no one knows my identity.
Yet another method is to have someone else take the packages for you. I find that the guys hanging out at the local 7-11 are eager to help. Just tell them what to do, how much to declare the package is worth and give them postage money. Doesn’t matter what name or amount the postal worker shouts out….Although some packages do seem to take a long time to arrive – in fact, none that I’ve shipped that way have arrived yet. Must be the hurricanes…..
Oh, look! The guy with the big smile wants me to try on a new jacket. Funny – usually the arms go in the back, not the front….
<< <i>They already know your history of shipping valuable items. They could have set you up or had their friend/s do it at any time over the years. Like it or not the OP is already known and has been for a long time for what he carries. >>
I trust the clerks... it's the customers that overheard that I don't want to know.
<< <i>
<< <i>.......isn't it scary how many clerks and people in service jobs are so common sense challenged???
And some here have never made a mistake in their entire lives? >>
...........maybe once.
Damn, that's some great rates, $1.05 for $1,000 coverage. That was for non-policy holders.
<< <i>And they had to go through testing to get into the post office job. There is one local lady at the post office, I'm not sure
how she ever got the job. One day she was complaining about the nickle, and how it has all the new pictures, and it just
confused her, she didn't like it all. >>
If they are a minority, they get extra free points on their tests. Go figure!!!! Also in a union job, promotions are typically granted on seniorityy and possessing the minumum qualifications necessary for the job grade. Thus if you are the senior person and meet the minumum criteria to get the job, you get the job.. But in reality what the public ends up with is a minimally qualified workforce.
This my opinion but it is based on working in a union job for 14 years. It used to burn my butt when the minimally qualified slacker working right next to me got the same pay and benefits as me when I was doing twice the work. Eventually the company shifted 80% of the jobs overseas.