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The Oreville-Lordmarcovan Seated Liberty Type Set

lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
THE OREVILLE-LORD MARCOVAN SEATED LIBERTY TYPE SET


In 1999, I transitioned from a raw Dansco-7070 type set to a certified 19th and 20th century nongold type set. I completed that in September of 2001 (just prior to the dark days of 9/11). I had decided to switch to a PCGS Registry type set in the summer of 2001, and that brief flirtation with the Registry is what initially brought me to these forums. During my changeover to all-PCGS coins, I listed the bulk of the type set on eBay. I decided to sell the entire Seated Liberty portion of the collection (including the 20c piece and Trade dollar) as one large lot.

I was on a smaller budget in those days (working as a hotel bellman for six bucks an hour plus tips), so these coins are not condition-census trophy pieces. I was (and am) rather proud of them, though, because I bought the best I could afford at the time.

The September 11th terrorist attacks happened right in the midpoint of my eBay auction when I was selling them. Oreville decided to step in and bid on the set, and "save" me from taking a bad hit on it. He won it and purchased it from me, and has held it since, refusing at least one casual buyback offer from me a few years ago. Now they are for sale again. Since I no longer have any ownership stake in these coins, I hope you'll not consider this post to be spam, though of course I like to give a friend a boost, since he did the same for me seven years ago. He has asked that people only post ONCE on his BST auction thread, and that doesn't allow much room for discussion or questions, so I'm posting the set here for discussion. Remember, anything to do with the actual future sale of the coins should be directed to the BST thread and/or in a PM to oreville, as I do not own these anymore. He did not ask me to post the coins here, and if any feathers are ruffled as a result, I am wholly responsible and will edit this post out or let the mods delete it.

This thread is for general discussion and commentary ONLY and has nothing to do with the currently ongoing sale of the coins.

He had posted some overlarge group scans of the coins, so I have taken the liberty of copying and pasting them into individual coin images. These scans were adequate but not terrific. It is nice to see some of my old "babies" again. Some of these types like the dollars were the first examples I had ever owned. Sadly, I have forgotten much of the provenance on these after seven years, but when it is not otherwise noted, most came from eBay or Heritage, or maybe in one or two cases, Teletrade.

It was a fun collection to build, and seeing these coins again makes me all nostalgic.

The raw 1857-O dime is just something added later and was not a part of the original set (I believe he intends it to be a giveaway or a bonus coin during the sale, but I don't know).




image01. Half dime, no stars 1837 ANACS EF40
image02. Half dime, stars obverse 1838 ANACS VF30
image03. Half dime, arrows at date 1853 arrows NGC AU58
image04. Half dime, legend obverse 1860 NGC MS62
image05. Dime, no stars 1837 ANACS VF35, ex-Bill Smith, NCNA show, NC State Fairgrounds, Fall, 2000.
image06. Dime, stars obverse 1856 small date
image07. Dime, arrows at date (1853-55) 1855 arrows ANACS VF30
image08. Dime, legend obverse 1884 NGC MS62, ex-Teletrade, 1999-2000.
image09. Dime, arrows at date (1873-74) 1874 arrows ANACS VF35
image10. Twenty-cent piece 1875 ANACS EF40, ex-Darin Whitaker, September, 2001
image11. Quarter, no motto 1859 SEGS EF45, ex-Larry Briggs collection (Briggs is a Seated specialist and author), eBay, 1999-2000
image12. Quarter, arrows & rays (1853) 1853 ANACS EF45
image13. Quarter, arrows, no rays (1854-55) 1854 ANACS EF45
image14. Quarter, with motto 1877 ANACS MS62
image15. Quarter, arrows at date (1873-74) 1873 arrows ANACS VF35 (picture got a bit chopped in his group scans)
image16. Half dollar, no motto 1861 SEGS AU53
image17. Half dollar, arrows & rays (1853) 1853 arrows & rays ANACS EF40
image18. Half dollar, arrows, no rays (1854-55) 1855-O NGC AU50
image19. Half dollar, with motto 1873 no arrows, closed 3 ANACS EF45
image20. Half dollar, arrows at date (1873-74) 1874 arrows ANACS EF45 (maybe some faint bluish-green at rims, not seen in scans?)
image21. Dollar, no motto 1842 ANACS AU50
image22. Dollar, with motto 1872 NGC EF40, ex-private collection from GA, 2000, formerly PCI (green) VF35
image23. Trade dollar 1875-CC NGC XF40, ex-James Atha, Brunswick, GA, 1999-2000, formerly PCI (green) VF30 or 35

image24. (Extra coin) 1857-O dime (raw, a bonus coin that was not part of the original set)

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coins and pics... but I'm still in shock that there's no holes! image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    my fav is #23 the 1875-cc trade dollar, that thing is crusty to death

    greg

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was a favorite of mine, and my first Trade dollar, too. I bought it raw from a local dealer I used to assist. His name was Jim Atha and he ran a shop called Golden Isles Collectibles. He has since moved away and I have appropriated the name for my own use (as "Golden Isles Coins"), since Jim's departure left me the closest thing to a coin dealer in the Golden Isles. I was happy that the coin was a CC, and while I did not have a full appreciation of toned coins at the time (much less the current use of the adjective "crusty"), I liked its looks. Until I recently saw oreville's scan of it, I was remembering it as being a little more CircCam than it actually is. It is a tad dark in his scan, and better in hand, as I recall. I first sent it to PCI (hey, this was 1999 or so), and they gave it a green label and a VF35, as I recall. Later I sent it to NGC in 2001 and it upgraded to EF40. I have fond memories of that one, and many of these others, which is why posting them here gives me a small chance to retroactively show off. I have come a long way since 2001, but looking over these coins again shows me that I had a decent eye back then, too. (Remember, I was on a low budget then, and this was the best I could afford. I even worked a part time job to feed my habit for a while.)

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    combing back through i see i missed the 20 center the first time through.....very nice!! and a philly offering no less

    greg

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That came from Darin Whitaker ("BigD5"), a forum member I haven't seen in a while. I bought it from him off eBay.

    It was the last addition to the set, and actually was purchased after I had decided to sell off the collection. Somebody wanted my previous 20c piece (a rather crusty 1875-S in a PCGS VF25 OGH slab), and when I sold it, I needed a replacement if I was going to sell the Seated set as a whole. So I bought the 1875-P ANACS EF40 you see above, and it was a nice replacement. Not too many folks upgrade their collections AFTER they hit the auction block!

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