Is Heritage spamming? Say it aint so!

Shamika · July 31, 2008 2:37PM

DUIGUY · July 31, 2008 3:31PM

Lotta strange activities going on.

Robb · July 31, 2008 3:33PM

Virtually everyone gets away with it on Live auctions. I have no idea why but it's not unique to Heritage or just the coin hobby for that matter.

CertifiedGoldCoins · July 31, 2008 4:01PM

The "NGC" and "PCGS" in the title is merely part of the description. eBay truncates everything pasted there at 55 characters, like so:

7735: 1920-S 5C MS61 ICG. NGC Census: (21/304). PCGS Population (5/416). Mintage: 9,689,000. Numismedia Wsl. Price for NGC/PCGS coin in MS61: $442. (#3946)

SaorAlba · July 31, 2008 9:04PM

Aren't live auctions on feeBay a thing of the past come this fall?

BAJJERFAN · July 31, 2008 9:19PM

Will eBay ever require Heritage to take PayPal if they continue to list and sell thru there.

Shamika · July 31, 2008 11:22PM

<< The "NGC" and "PCGS" in the title is merely part of the description. eBay truncates everything pasted there at 55 characters, like so:

7735: 1920-S 5C MS61 ICG. NGC Census: (21/304). PCGS Population (5/416). Mintage: 9,689,000. Numismedia Wsl. Price for NGC/PCGS coin in MS61: $442. (#3946) >>

Hmmm... I'll have to remember to do this in my auctions.

IrishMike · July 31, 2008 11:35PM

Even though I couldn't find anything in the Ebay rules that allows this to happen in live auctions, obviously they allow it. Several folks including myself reported a violation in another live auction by another seller and they allowed it continue to fruition. It's a business decision versus their stated attempt to clean up ebay. Money won out.

GFourDriver · July 31, 2008 11:55PM

Heritage has always done this. Also, they have been taking paypal for over a year now.

Cladiator · July 31, 2008 11:59PM

Nothing new about that. They've been doing it for years. I made a thread many moons ago about it and the general concensus was that they are Heritage and they can do what ever they want to do. Lame in my opinion. All sellers on eBay should be held to the same standards.

CertifiedGoldCoins · August 1, 2008 2:57AM

<< Hmmm... I'll have to remember to do this in my auctions.

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Hey, go ahead and try it. If no one reports it, you're home free. But I used to report lots of stuff, and learned that for "live" auctions, there are NO rules. Even SGS slabs can use grade numbers in the title.

CertifiedGoldCoins · August 1, 2008 3:01AM

<< Aren't live auctions on feeBay a thing of the past come this fall? >>

At the end of the year, according to this announcement.

BECOKA · August 1, 2008 3:05AM

I really can't wait for external live auctions to end. They fill my search results too often.

TwoSides2aCoin · August 1, 2008 3:30AM

Promotion is meant to be a good thing. Hype is there to build excitement and hopefully increase the value. Words, acronyms, embellishments and stickers are all part of the game.

Here is something for your Spam™

TavernTreasures · August 1, 2008 3:33AM

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<< The "NGC" and "PCGS" in the title is merely part of the description. eBay truncates everything pasted there at 55 characters, like so:

7735: 1920-S 5C MS61 ICG. NGC Census: (21/304). PCGS Population (5/416). Mintage: 9,689,000. Numismedia Wsl. Price for NGC/PCGS coin in MS61: $442. (#3946) >>

Hmmm... I'll have to remember to do this in my auctions.

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Forget about it! There are too many rats on these boards that will report your auction for any MINOR violation of Ebay's ridiculous rules for coin auctions.

pennyannie · August 1, 2008 5:38AM

What is the big deal? And why d people feel the need to report what others do? I have never really understood the latter. Is it revenge? Pride in being a tattletale? You want to cost someone money? Why do guys/gals report vilotions on ebay? Why can ebay not run there own business and rely on others free of charge to do it for them? Why help ebay out? What does it do for you personally?

Shamika · August 1, 2008 5:57AM

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<< The "NGC" and "PCGS" in the title is merely part of the description. eBay truncates everything pasted there at 55 characters, like so:

7735: 1920-S 5C MS61 ICG. NGC Census: (21/304). PCGS Population (5/416). Mintage: 9,689,000. Numismedia Wsl. Price for NGC/PCGS coin in MS61: $442. (#3946) >>

Hmmm... I'll have to remember to do this in my auctions.

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For the record, I was being sarcastic. I rarely ever auction on ebay and would never spam even if allowed to do so.

CertifiedGoldCoins · August 1, 2008 7:44AM

<< What is the big deal? And why d people feel the need to report what others do? I have never really understood the latter. Is it revenge? Pride in being a tattletale? You want to cost someone money? Why do guys/gals report vilotions on ebay? Why can ebay not run there own business and rely on others free of charge to do it for them? Why help ebay out? What does it do for you personally? >>

You could only understand my motivation if you once had a legitimate business on eBay, listing genuine coins with accurate grades, only to lose money because of unfair competition from crooks siphoning collector dollars by selling fakes, and coins with fictitious grades in Coin World holders.
And even non-dealers, unaffected by such activities, lose some of their investment in their collection from the exodus of many would-be new collectors, who lose interest in numismatics, once they learn they have been cheated.
Yes, eBay can "run there own business", but they only remove false listings that get reported. Making it hard for crooks to steal isn't just helping eBay, it's helping ourselves in the long run.

TavernTreasures · August 1, 2008 8:01AM

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<< What is the big deal? And why d people feel the need to report what others do? I have never really understood the latter. Is it revenge? Pride in being a tattletale? You want to cost someone money? Why do guys/gals report vilotions on ebay? Why can ebay not run there own business and rely on others free of charge to do it for them? Why help ebay out? What does it do for you personally? >>

You could only understand my motivation if you once had a legitimate business on eBay, listing genuine coins with accurate grades, only to lose money because of unfair competition from crooks siphoning collector dollars by selling fakes, and coins with fictitious grades in Coin World holders.
And even non-dealers, unaffected by such activities, lose some of their investment in their collection from the exodus of many would-be new collectors, who lose interest in numismatics, once they learn they have been cheated.
Yes, eBay can "run there own business", but they only remove false listings that get reported. Making it hard for crooks to steal isn't just helping eBay, it's helping ourselves in the long run. >>

IMO----Reporting fakes and scams is different than reporting auctions for minor EBAY rule violations.

I applaud the members here who report the fakes and scams. But those who run to Ebay to report minor auction violations are nothing more than tattletails and squealers.

OKbustchaser · August 1, 2008 8:07AM

The difference is that Live Auctions do not take place on Ebay. They are merely advertised there.

Is Heritage spamming? Say it aint so!

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