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CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
Old cleaning or just plain circulation that is crusting over? I'll post my beliefs after a bit.

ps. I don't own it and I'm not selling it.

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    I'll go with " just plain circulation that is crusting over."
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Tough call from just photos, but I'd lean toward an old cleaning. I'd not expect high points of the design to remain untoned when the hidden areas are in areas black.

    Bigger photos or the coin in hand would certainly be helpful. image

    Regardless, it's a neat coin & thanks for sharing it with us...Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • I'm going with circulation
  • I like it either way.
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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭

    At first glance I thought crusty circulated but looking at it longer makes me doubt my first take... the "crust" around the stars almost looks a little to uniform. Tough to tell from the pic.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks to me like a classic case of old cleaning, masked by cigar smoke haze.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote old cleaning & retoned, it wouldn't surprise me if the retoning was accelerated somehow, maybe in an envelope on a window sill. I actually think it's somewhat attractive now.


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  • chabot510chabot510 Posts: 1,291
    old cleaning that has re-toned nicely! still a choice piece
    Nick
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe Miss Liberty had an affair and is about 4 1/2 months preggy, either that or needs to partake in a few hundred ab crunches - that mid-drift bulge is rather unsightly.

    As for the coin, looks like something that might happen to a coin that spent time in circulation and had many fingers applied to it. The unprotected areas didn't build up tarnish at the same rate as the areas protected by higher design elements.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    an original dark coin that was scrubbed/dipped/cleaned.
    if not hair lined to heck and back it would probably still slab if no
    other problems are evident on the rim and what not.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some good ideas floating around in the thread. At least one person has nailed my personal opinion of the coin dead on.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Without being able to loupe the surfaces, it looks like common circulation and then long term storage.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    if circulation caused that "look" how can we explain coins that
    circulated much more then that one did yet have a nice consistent
    coloration to the fields as well as the devices yet are known not
    to tone/tarnish anywhere near as much as .900 fine silver?

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    also folks like DW in his blog would describe coins that look like that
    as played with.

    thoughts are welcome.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,240 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>if circulation caused that "look" how can we explain coins that
    circulated much more then that one did yet have a nice consistent
    coloration to the fields as well as the devices? >>

    Because it circulated much more. Also how and where and when it was circulated could account for a different look. You may have some valid points but comparing that half dime to a much more worn hunk of gold is apples to oranges IMO.
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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>if circulation caused that "look" how can we explain coins that
    circulated much more then that one did yet have a nice consistent
    coloration to the fields as well as the devices? >>

    Because it circulated much more. Also how and where and when it was circulated could account for a different look. You may have some valid points but comparing that half dime to a much more worn hunk of gold is apples to oranges IMO. >>



    In order for a silver coin like that to become basically black in the protected areas
    would lead me to think that it circulated enough where any point on the coin
    could have also tarnished/became dirty. of course during its circulation the highest
    of points would continue to be worn down... but eventually it was stored away
    and nature would take over (tarnish).

    You have points in the coins where a finger holding the coin could have
    never reached yet have lighter colors. for example, the date area between
    the numerals is lighter yet those are always well protected. By the head of
    liberty and the star at 1 o'clock. On the reverse where it says half dime
    is mighty powerful protected (huck finn heh) but yet shows that lightness.

    well i am done making my case. we will never know for sure. i just know
    i tend to avoid coins that have that look and would rather chase after
    coins that appeal to me.

    i also think that silver coins that have the same age of gold.. in the end
    would eventually go black, more so then gold, by its very nature. unless
    of course stored in an airtight manner like a canning jar or what not.

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