A couple NewP's arrived today (IMAGES UP): 1825 Bust Quarter and 1847 Large Cent
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Well, I've been waiting on the Bust Quarter for about 3 weeks now and it finally came, and I love how it turned out.
The other coin, the 1847 Large Cent, came from rhedden's recent 129 Large Cent collection posted on the BST.
If you want to give grade opinions, feel free to do so.
The 1825/3 CBQ (B-2, R2) is a really neat piece because of the retained CUD on the reverse.
I also believe this is a Die State III because of the Die Crack through the "I" in UNITED and extending almost fully to the eagle's wing.
The retained CUD can be seen clearly from the Dino-Lite images, and you can tell that it BADLY wants to form a full CUD, but it's not quite there.
I also zoomed in on the date since I thought the overdate looked more like a 1825/4 instead of the designated 1825/3 from Browning. I'll let you decide if I'm seeing things or not.
The second coin, 1847 Large Cent, is actually a horizontal-left RPD. I purchased the coin for the RPD, originality, and because I'm planning on doing a talk about Date Errors.
I also noticed when using the Dino-Lite that the "8" in the date is triple punched (one to the left, one north, and the final position)
All-in-all a cool piece which I plan to keep for a long time.
The other coin, the 1847 Large Cent, came from rhedden's recent 129 Large Cent collection posted on the BST.
If you want to give grade opinions, feel free to do so.
The 1825/3 CBQ (B-2, R2) is a really neat piece because of the retained CUD on the reverse.
I also believe this is a Die State III because of the Die Crack through the "I" in UNITED and extending almost fully to the eagle's wing.
The retained CUD can be seen clearly from the Dino-Lite images, and you can tell that it BADLY wants to form a full CUD, but it's not quite there.
I also zoomed in on the date since I thought the overdate looked more like a 1825/4 instead of the designated 1825/3 from Browning. I'll let you decide if I'm seeing things or not.
The second coin, 1847 Large Cent, is actually a horizontal-left RPD. I purchased the coin for the RPD, originality, and because I'm planning on doing a talk about Date Errors.
I also noticed when using the Dino-Lite that the "8" in the date is triple punched (one to the left, one north, and the final position)
All-in-all a cool piece which I plan to keep for a long time.
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OK, OK....I'm just kidding here.
Nice pickup of the LDS 1825 B-2!
The die crack at I actually occurs before the crack develops at the arrowheads, but does continue to enlarge towards the eagle's wing as the retained cud develops.
Although others have claimed that this retained section falls out and actually becomes a "full" cud, in my opinion that is not the case. Every coin used to try and prove this theory has been a low grade coin and due to the retained section being raised, all evidence of the design has worn away leaving a raised worn smooth section of metal that looks nothing like when a section of a die has fallen out and metal is allowed to freely flow into the recess that is created by this. I have postulated that the reverse was the "anvil" or lower die and the broken section would have been held together by the collar during striking, but the broken section did sink slightly which shows as a raised area on the finished coins.
I thought the overdate looked more like a 1825/4 instead of the designated 1825/3 from Browning. I'll let you decide if I'm seeing things or not.
In actuality both obverse dies used in 1825, and the three die marriages produced by them, are 5/4/2's.
This is easily seen in looking at high grade B-1's and high grade early die stage B-2's. After the B-2 die marriage, the obverse die was heavily lapped and when used to create the B-3 die marriage all traces of the underlying 2 are gone and more features of the underlying 4 can be seen. Regrdless of what they have been called in the past all of the 1825's are 5/4/2's.
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P.S. Nice looking Large cent too by the way!
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