show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why?

Hyperion · July 19, 2008 12:39AM

it doesn't even have to be yours!!!!

PerryHall · July 19, 2008 12:45AM

<< it doesn't even have to be yours!!!! >>

These are colled "coffin coins" since they are in their final resting place. Usually overgraded coins in top tier slabs.

MrHalfDime · July 19, 2008 12:52AM

I am one of those collectors who always cracks out all of his coins, and places them in my own holders. This enables me to study, weigh, measure, and appreciate the coins to a degree that I could not if they were entombed in plastic, and it presents the collection in more attractive and uniform holders.

I do, however, have just one half dime that I have (at least temporarily) left in its slab, bowing to pressure from other collectors who would think it unimaginable to ever crack it out. The coin is a very rare 1848-O Small O V4 Liberty Seated half dime in PCGS MS-64. It is a condition census coin for the die marriage (V4), and has extremely attractive peripheral toning on both obverse and reverse. However, the reason that others think it should remain in its holder is because it is also pedigreed to the John Jay Pittman collection, duly noted on the holder. I contend that the coin will be precisely the same coin, in or out of its holder, but others simply cringe at the mere suggestion. So for the time being, I have elected to leave it in its holder, but I have the vice ready and waiting.

RTS · July 19, 2008 12:54AM

show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why?...I've never met one.

MisterBungle · July 19, 2008 1:00AM

I'll probably leave these two alone.

~

LickThoseStamps · July 19, 2008 1:04AM

Because it is too cool looking!

Baley · July 19, 2008 1:10AM

Gosh, NEVER EVER is a VERY long time.

But it will be up to the eventual next owner to crack this one out,

because I've already seen the edge.

atom48coin · July 19, 2008 1:14AM

No pic, but it would be my autographed Glenna Goodacre Sac dollar in the numbered ICG holder. I'd never crack it out because Ms. Goodacre autographed it directly on the slab with gold ink.

Mark · July 19, 2008 1:15AM

I'd need to show you pictures of my entire collection because I never crack a coin. I'll play the crack and up-grade game only when I want to sell my collection. In the meanwhile I tremendously appreciate the protection of the slab. Now when I have friends over and want to show off a coin I can do so without fear of damage. And I can show them individual coins rather than an entire assembly of them in a holder. Somehow I perceive that my friends would rather look at a smaller rather than larger number of coins ...

ambro51 · July 19, 2008 1:38AM

It cant get any better!

TwoSides2aCoin · July 19, 2008 1:46AM

This one took two years of lobbying to get into plastic,
so I would NEVER EVER CRACK it out.

Musky1011 · July 19, 2008 1:48AM

Not worth much as is and not worth more than a dollar cracked

Jim

blu62vette · July 19, 2008 2:10AM

This picture is old and I will try and edit a better one today with new pics. Just a nicely toned coin in a rattler. But I cant remeber buying it or not having it. I have had it for a good 15 years, or since I was a teenager at least. So it is one of my first morgans and I love the toning.

Southcounty · July 19, 2008 2:16AM

Doily Coins Rule!

blu62vette · July 19, 2008 2:20AM

<< Doily Coins Rule!

I second that!!!

nicetoning42107 · July 19, 2008 2:23AM

No one should EVER crack one of these out!

adamlaneus · July 19, 2008 2:26AM

There is the other side...

If I can find a 'Omaha Hoard' coin *CHEAP*...then I take a certain pleasure in shattering that slab to put the coin into my Dansco.

DwaineO · July 19, 2008 2:46AM

<< No one should EVER crack one of these out! >>

I have never seen one of these but I agree with you on that.

copperfan · July 19, 2008 2:47AM

derryb · July 19, 2008 2:51AM

This one took two years of lobbying to get into plastic,

such thing as a coin lobbyist? What's an MS 70 cost these days?

Broadstruck · July 19, 2008 2:55AM

Sonically sealed in the same plastic tomb for over 20 years and counting...

Not to be disturbed.

Elmer J. Fudd - "Be Vewwy, Vewwy Quiet... I'm Hunting Wattlers!"

blu62vette · July 19, 2008 2:57AM

<< Sonically sealed in the same plastic tomb for over 20 years and counting...

Not to be disturbed.

Elmer J. Fudd - "Be Vewwy, Vewwy Quiet... I'm Hunting Wattlers!"

>>

Great coin!!!!

Broadstruck · July 19, 2008 3:00AM

<< 

<< Sonically sealed in the same plastic tomb for over 20 years and counting...

Not to be disturbed.

Elmer J. Fudd - "Be Vewwy, Vewwy Quiet... I'm Hunting Wattlers!"

>>

Great coin!!!! >>

Thanks... but actually there's pics of 2 coins

123cents · July 19, 2008 3:01AM

Coin not worth must but old Hallmark Slab.

coinsarefun · July 19, 2008 3:04AM

<< 

<< Thanks but actually that's pics of 2 coins!

>>

So you are saying that you have a spare to send to me......you are way to kind, thanks

Stefanie

Broadstruck · July 19, 2008 3:14AM

<< Thanks but actually that's pics of 2 coins!

>>

So you are saying that you have a spare to send to me......you are way to kind, thanks

Stefanie >>

coinsarefun, Sorry I have Strong Hands on this duo... can you wait 15 years

roadrunner · July 19, 2008 3:24AM

show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why?...I've never met one.

Since a Pittman pedigree coin was already mentioned I'll toss in the Pittman 1844-0 quarter in MS66. It's a dullish coin with faint luster.
I felt it was a solid 64 coin...not even shot 65.

The coin orig sold for 64 money when raw in the Pittman sale ($4-5K). But....it was then slabbed as NGC MS66. The previous few times I saw it sell it realized 64+ money ($5-7K). The very last time I saw it auctioned it fetched 64++ or 65- money ($12K?) I pray that some newbie doesn't fall into the trap down the road and pay solid 65 or even 66 money for that coin. An honest 65 of that date is a $30-40K coin today and a true 66 would be in over $50K country. This coin could never be cracked out as it would likely not grade 65 next time through.

The Gene Edwards coin from the 1982 ANA sale ($3-4K or so) was an honest gem even in the 1980's. Now that's a coin worthy of MS65 money today.

roadrunner

percyb · July 19, 2008 3:38AM

I have a slew/slue of Washington Quarters dated 1932D/S and forward in grades from MS65 to VG 23 (?) that makes no sense to crack. They're in the vault awaiting price appreciation while I sleep

PerryHall · July 19, 2008 3:56AM

I have some early slabs (all white NGC with gold embossed logo, PCGS Regency, etc) that I'll never crack out. I also have an older small ANACS slab with the serial number 666666 that is neater than the coin inside (common date Liberty gold half eagle).

Broadstruck · July 19, 2008 4:07AM

<< I have some early slabs (all white NGC with gold embossed logo, PCGS Regency, etc) that I'll never crack out. I also have an older small ANACS slab with the serial number 666666 that is neater than the coin inside (common date Liberty gold half eagle). >>

LindeDad · July 19, 2008 4:26AM

Why bother? Will sell as is or as I upgrade.

oldcameoproofsguy · July 19, 2008 5:38AM

I'm lucky this one made it into a PCGS au58 holder in the first place. I just said to myself "what the heck" and sent it in.
The coin has a very light old cleaning. I thought for sure it would get bb'd and I'd be out the submission fees but here it is proudly sitting in its plastic home.

Tvac897 · July 19, 2008 5:55AM

<< it doesn't even have to be yours!!!! >>

Where is yours?

jhdfla · July 19, 2008 8:27AM

<< show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why?...I've never met one.

Since a Pittman pedigree coin was already mentioned I'll toss in the Pittman 1844-0 quarter in MS66. It's a dullish coin with faint luster.
I felt it was a solid 64 coin...not even shot 65.

The coin orig sold for 64 money when raw in the Pittman sale ($4-5K). But....it was then slabbed as NGC MS66. The previous few times I saw it sell it realized 64+ money ($5-7K). The very last time I saw it auctioned it fetched 64++ or 65- money ($12K?) I pray that some newbie doesn't fall into the trap down the road and pay solid 65 or even 66 money for that coin. An honest 65 of that date is a $30-40K coin today and a true 66 would be in over $50K country. This coin could never be cracked out as it would likely not grade 65 next time through.

The Gene Edwards coin from the 1982 ANA sale ($3-4K or so) was an honest gem even in the 1980's. Now that's a coin worthy of MS65 money today.

roadrunner >>

Roadrunner, that was Steve Ivy Numismatics who held the 1982 ANA sale correct? Did Gene have anything else in that auction that you know of?

John

BECOKA · July 19, 2008 8:40AM

<< 

<< it doesn't even have to be yours!!!! >>

These are colled "coffin coins" since they are in their final resting place. Usually overgraded coins in top tier slabs. >>

I agree and own a couple.

roadrunner · July 19, 2008 10:10AM

Roadrunner, that was Steve Ivy Numismatics who held the 1982 ANA sale correct? Did Gene have anything else in that auction that you know of?

Yes, that was Ivy's auction. It was the very bottom of the coin market with some incredible bargains looking back today.

Besides the 1844-0, there was also a Gem 1856-0 25c that later showed in Auction '83 and '84. I bought that one for about $4000 and it was a gem even if a tad subdued. That coin is now in Gene 2's collection and has gone back and forth from PCGS to NGC 65 holders a couple of times. In today's white is might market, that 1856-0 is a tad too subdued for most people, yet is still #2 or #3 finest known behind the Eliasberg 66 which I never saw. And I also recall a gem or choice 1871-s 25c in that sale. There were probably a couple of others as well. Surprisingly, there weren't all that many quarters of note in that '82 ANA Boston sale. If Gene had more, they might have been sold through other avenues. Ironically I dumped $5000 at Stack's Robison sale that spring and had no cash left for the ANA sale....or I would have bought both O mints.

roadrunner

jhdfla · July 19, 2008 10:27AM

<< Roadrunner, that was Steve Ivy Numismatics who held the 1982 ANA sale correct? Did Gene have anything else in that auction that you know of?

Yes, that was Ivy's auction. It was the very bottom of the coin market with some incredible bargains looking back today.

Besides the 1844-0, there was also a Gem 1856-0 25c that later showed in Auction '83 and '84. I bought that one for about $4000 and it was a gem even if a tad subdued. That coin is now in Gene 2's collection and has gone back and forth from PCGS to NGC 65 holders a couple of times. In today's white is might market, that 1856-0 is a tad too subdued for most people, yet is still #2 or #3 finest known behind the Eliasberg 66 which I never saw. And I also recall a gem or choice 1871-s 25c in that sale. There were probably a couple of others as well. Surprisingly, there weren't all that many quarters of note in that '82 ANA Boston sale. If Gene had more, they might have been sold through other avenues. Ironically I dumped $5000 at Stack's Robison sale that spring and had no cash left for the ANA sale....or I would have bought both O mints.

roadrunner >>

He placed many of his best coins, I'm surprised it was in the '82 ANA sale. I forget the exact time frame, as I was out of coins for a period in the early 80's and had hit upon some tough times, but that might have been around the time he got sick, I'm not exactly sure. Sold his Gem Superb 1971 back to him sometime before 1982, he was lamenting the fact the market was softening at that time but he still gave me 5K on the coin. He was an expert on the series, especially with regard to high grade rarities in the series, as opposed to Kam Ahwash, who did not have anywhere near as good an eye for quality and was more concerned with die varities and the like. I'd love to see what the other Gene has amassed sometime in the quarter series, I bet the set is amazing...

BTW, there is an 1872-S (Ex-Norweb) in a Heritage LB auction this fall in 66 that I bet is incredible:
1872-S ms-66

J.

jhdfla · July 19, 2008 10:30AM

Sorry guys, we went off course and were talking about some coins that had a life pre-slab days...

garsmith · July 19, 2008 10:37AM

<< show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why? >>

because it's already cracked in the slab

Hyperion · July 19, 2008 10:39AM

this is a very interesting thread to me.

protection.
pedigree.
coins is either extremely valuable (or sentimentally valuable),
or worth nothing other than the slab.
and sometimes not for the coin so much as the slab itself.

lasvegasteddy · July 19, 2008 10:41AM

my first doilie and i'm not going to ruin it's exsistence

TwoSides2aCoin · July 19, 2008 10:49AM

<< This one took two years of lobbying to get into plastic,

such thing as a coin lobbyist? What's an MS 70 cost these days?

>>

To answer your questions :
1) Yes, I am one
2) 'bout twenty bucks plus S&H. Make sure your submission is sent USPS registered insured. (don't be disappointed if it comes back MS67)

Coxe · July 19, 2008 11:25AM

This one. It may be a VAM-20 (Hot-50), but I like the crazy designation on the tag. And people know I am not generally slab-happy collector. Never did get it redone to get the VAM for my set.

busco69 · July 19, 2008 11:35AM

busco69 · July 19, 2008 11:37AM

LanLord · July 19, 2008 11:52AM

<< it doesn't even have to be yours!!!! >>

There are a lot of coins that aren't mine that i'd never crack out. mainly because THEY AREN'T MINE!

Aegis3 · July 19, 2008 12:10PM

<< show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why?...I've never met one.

Since a Pittman pedigree coin was already mentioned I'll toss in the Pittman 1844-0 quarter in MS66. It's a dullish coin with faint luster.
I felt it was a solid 64 coin...not even shot 65.

The coin orig sold for 64 money when raw in the Pittman sale ($4-5K). But....it was then slabbed as NGC MS66. The previous few times I saw it sell it realized 64+ money ($5-7K). The very last time I saw it auctioned it fetched 64++ or 65- money ($12K?) I pray that some newbie doesn't fall into the trap down the road and pay solid 65 or even 66 money for that coin. An honest 65 of that date is a $30-40K coin today and a true 66 would be in over $50K country. This coin could never be cracked out as it would likely not grade 65 next time through.

The Gene Edwards coin from the 1982 ANA sale ($3-4K or so) was an honest gem even in the 1980's. Now that's a coin worthy of MS65 money today.

roadrunner >>

The Pittman 44-O has gone from MS66 to MS66 PL so it must have been cracked out by someone (perhaps NGC themselves). Odd a coin with a test cut could be graded so high.

MrEureka · July 19, 2008 12:47PM

This one's Cameron's. I don't think it would be a good idea to crack it.

holeinone1972 · July 19, 2008 12:49PM

I don't have the photo, but my Mad Marty Weenie coin will never be cracked.

Mainly cuz I don't wanna EVER touch Marty's weenie.

LOL

I even refuse to photograph it.

braddick · July 19, 2008 1:17PM

57loaded · July 19, 2008 2:41PM

without the slab it's just another "smoothie"

show me a coin you'd NEVER EVER CRACK out of it's slab and why?

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