I was just having this conversation with some people who are in a position to help decide. Here's what I took away from it.
Basically, the summer ANA conventions have to be in BIG cities -- lots of hotels, big convention center, an airport that takes full size aircraft (otherwise, if dealer carry-on inventory bags don't fit in overheads, they're not coming -- seriously).
If it were up to me, there would be a 5 or 6 year rotation: Baltimore, Chicago, Denver, San Fran, Atlanta. Other good picks would be Philly, Pittsburgh, Portland, Dallas, etc.
The "early spring" (formerly called by the less-chipper name "Midwinters") can be in so-called "destination" cities. They don't need to be quite as big, but they should be scenic or interesting in order to draw from outside of the metropolitan area. New Orleans works. So would Tampa, or San Diego, or Albequerque, or San Antonio, or Las Vegas, or even San Juan. As long as they're sun belt, interesting, relatively easy to fly into, and have some external stuff that might draw a hobbyist or dealer to bring their wife/family. Midwinters tend to lack the foot traffic of the summer ANAs, which is a fact that those who set up at them have come to understand.
Some cities that would be great have major flaws that would keep people from coming: NYC is expensive to find good space, hotels, and union help; some folks worry about safety in LA or Detroit's downtown convention centers; Florida and Las Vegas are hot as hell in the summer time. Other cities are just notorious among dealers who have done shows just about everywhere for having no real collector base -- they sound good on paper, but without people to buy coins and volunteers to help run it, there's a tough row to hoe.
My personal favorites are Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Atlanta, and Denver. All have very active local collector bases, are within a days drive of a significant population, have good downtown facilities, and have a track record of hosting big shows. As nice as it would be to sleep in my own bed and take the subway to a convention here in NYC, I'd rather have Joe Collector spending his saved money at my table, not on $400/night hotel rooms.
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Omaha would knock the socks off of anyone who would actually come and see what we have to offer outside of the preconceived ideas, perceptions, etc. Visit Omaha
Memphis TN OK City OK Louisville KY Milwaukee WI and my favorite ,Hartford CT New convention center with attatched hotel, half way between NYC and Boston , revitalized downtown with plenty of restaurants, 2 large casinos 1 hour away . 3 B & M coin shops about 30 minutes drive. Coin collection display in state library building . Two comedy clubs, one downtown with microbrewery . All this and more , along with high cost of living . And there is a coin club that may arise from the ashes .
<< <i><<It is inconceivable to me that one of the two ANA shows, every three years at a minimum, is not held in Washington, D.C. The ANA is a federally charterer organization. Much of its "history" is based on decisions and events made in the nation's capital. The ANA Board would be able to lobby the appropriate officials at the same time. Someplaces that have, routinely, had an ANA show over the past decade should be dropped and replaced with Washington, D.C.>> >>
The reason some obvious choices are missing is the way the system works. The ANA doesn't just pick a location. Instead, a local club agrees to host the event (which means a lot of work for the local club members) and invites the ANA. The participation of the local clubs keeps the cost down (lower dealer table fees, no admission fees, etc.) but means that locations without active clubs to pursue the event are never considered. I know that is the issue with Washington DC. There is no active club to support the show or even send the invite. It is probably the same with other traditional convention locations (e.g., New Orleans and Las Vegas) that don't seem to get an ANA.
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Here in Rochester, NY the local club is one of the oldest in the country, and has been operating continuously since 1912. I know that they are trying to land the ANA convention for their 100th anniversary. But as some here have pointed out, the city may not be big enough to attract it.
<< <i>Omaha is a nice small city, but there is not enough population to support a succesful major convention. >>
How much population is needed? >>
Yeah, whats wrong with Omaha? Its nearly a million plus Des Moines with a half million is 2 hours away, Lincoln with another few hundred K is less than an hour and both Kansas City and Siuox Falls aren't that far so really yer lookin at 2-3 mil potential population. The percent of those who are coiners would be what is important.
Seriously, Grand Rapids, Michigan is a viable option. If not for the ANA, then certainly for CSNS. A couple of years ago the American Philatelic Society held their national convention in downtown Grand Rapids (about 400 yards from my office when I lived in Grand Rapids). The convention center is large and relatively new (less than 10 years old). The population of tri-city area is over 1,300,000, with 750,000 in the city and surrounding suburbs. Grand Rapids is 3 hours from Chicago, 2 hours from Detroit, 8 hours from St. Louis and 5 hours from Indianapolis......all by way of car! Plus the city is centrally located in the U.S., albeit not as centrally located as St. Louis or Omaha. They also have an international airport that is just 30 minutes from downtown.
It is a super clean, cosmopolitan city with several new hotels in the downtown area. I lived there for 20 years and it is the best place I have ever resided.
<< <i>Omaha is a nice small city, but there is not enough population to support a succesful major convention. >>
How much population is needed? >>
The issue with Omaha is that although it is one of the largest cities in the general region with a city population of about 430,000 and a metropolitan population of around 1.2 million, it is still considered as one of the smaller markets when compared to other areas around the country (60th(!) largest metro area in the U.S. according to Wikipedia). As Bajjerfan stated, Omaha is within a 6-hour drive of 2-3 million people. Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people. Chicago is within a few hours of at least 20 million people. Check television advertising market size ratings as an example, and you will see that Omaha is considered as one of the smaller metropolitan markets in the U.S.
Although this part is somewhat off topic, I still think it has some relevance and parallels the argument. I understand that Omaha is home to the college world series and the Olympic trials, and the Olympics trials in particular draw a great deal of attention, but Omaha lacks a team in the "big four" professional sports leagues. Regardless of what amateur and minor league enthusiasts say, it is a fact that professional sports teams will generate by far the most attention and financial revenue. It isn't that there is anything wrong with Omaha or Nebraska, it simply boils down to the fact that there are more appealing options available, and because of those options, Omaha unfortunately gets excluded from final consideration.
Personally I agree with most of John K's (Pistareen) post, and choosing the right place for an ANA convention isn't easy to say the least.
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Intercourse, PA might be a good place for a bunch of swingin numismatists to hold a convention.
If numismatists aren't really all that swingin - then maybe nearby Blue Ball, PA might be a better choice.
Seriously, the Wilmington, Delaware waterfront area might be worth looking into. The Old Swedes Church, featured on the Delaware Half Dollar, is nearby and still in operation.
note: There is no sales tax in Delaware.
also, the Philadelphia Airport is just a short drive - about 25 miles
From the article: Omaha is probably not high on the list of cities people would name as being centers of commercial influence. It is 167 miles from the geographic middle of the continental USA, so it's about as far away from both Wall Street and Silicon Valley as you can get. It has an air of detachment, with minor league baseball, minimal traffic even at 5 o'clock and a median home price of $132,400 that is rising barely at the rate of inflation. You could buy Buffett's home for less than four shares of Berkshire Hathaway's $83,500-a-share class A stock.
Yet, Omaha has tremendous wealth, industry and influence for being in the middle of nowhere. It ranks eighth among the nation's 50 largest cities in both per-capita billionaires and Fortune 500 companies. No coastal city can claim a ranking as high as Omaha on both lists. Not San Francisco. Not Los Angeles nor New York — nor Houston. Philadelphia and Baltimore haven't a single billionaire between them, nor do 15 other cities in the top 50 by population. Honolulu has no Fortune 500 companies, nor do a dozen other cities among the largest 50.
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I enjoyed the ANA conventions in Baltimore, Philadelphia & Pittsburgh.
When I answered the ANA survey, I wanted the best of both worlds. It asked "do you want a regular number of rotating cities or as many different as possible". I wanted to answer "yes" to both.
There is a core of cities that should host an ANA convention every few years. Baltimore is almost the perfect city as can be seen by their 2008 selection even though it was "just there" in 2003.
Philadelphia, Boston, Charlotte,Virginia Beach, Pittsburgh, Atlanta would all be my East Coast choices in addition to Baltimore.
I would not attend a convention in NYC or Washington, DC.
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Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people.
That number is not so impressive when you consider that half of that total are illegal immigrants meth-heads and gang-bangers. Seriously though, it is not just the total population, but the demographics that must be considered.
You DO NOT want to have it here (Memphis) too crime ridden / not enough Police protection..
The International Paper Money Show has been held in Memphis in June (usually) for the past 32 years without any problems. The Memphis Coin Club does a wonderful job with show setup and security. I've attended this show 22 times and wandered around downtown Memphis including Beale Street and everything has been fine.
So, I'm a bit confused by your statement. I think Memphis would be a great choice. The only issue I see is that Memphis is a "fortress hub" for Northwest so the air fares tend to be a bit high.
<< <i>Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people.
That number is not so impressive when you consider that half of that total are illegal immigrants meth-heads and gang-bangers. Seriously though, it is not just the total population, but the demographics that must be considered. >>
If you count the illegal immigrants, etc. as stated then the population numbers would be much higher than the quoted 22 million. A person's residency status does not exclude them from the ability to buy coins or to attend coin shows. If other demographics are considered such as income status and occupation security then most of the Midwest is not feasible for convention hosting.
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You DO NOT want to have it here (Memphis) too crime ridden / not enough Police protection.. >>
I've heard that from a lot of people. I was in Memphis last month for a paper money show. I felt safe there. I guess it helps when you stay at the hotel that is connected to the convention center. There were plenty of cops around Beale Street. BTW.....
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<< <i>Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people.
That number is not so impressive when you consider that half of that total are illegal immigrants meth-heads and gang-bangers. Seriously though, it is not just the total population, but the demographics that must be considered. >>
If you count the illegal immigrants, etc. as stated then the population numbers would be much higher than the quoted 22 million. A person's residency status does not exclude them from the ability to buy coins or to attend coin shows. If other demographics are considered such as income status and occupation security then most of the Midwest is not feasible for convention hosting. >>
There are plenty of folks with money in the midwest, but maybe they choose not to spend it on coins. Are locations like LA and other large venues considered to be mature in terms of coin sales; that is you can expect to sell a certain amount in Chicago, but don't plan on doubling sales. From that standpoint maybe its time to try something different just to be different.
A second for Carson City or Reno. Reno is very easy to get to and cheap to stay. Having set up large meetings there in the past, I know that they are very accomidating. Carson City would provide a great spot for historic mint visits and some great western history. I don't live in either place.
On the surface Santa Clara would seem like an ideal location for a convention; it's close to an international airport, it has a nice convention facility, the area boasts one of the highest median salaries in the country, not to mention it would be a 15-minute commute for me. But on the other hand, the Santa Clara show currently has a difficult time attracting dealers to attend, and according to many dealers, Santa Clara consistenly ranks as one of the least desirable destinations on the "coin show circuit" to travel to. With those perceptions stacked against Santa Clara I would be a little apprehensive in choosing the area to host an ANA convention.
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During PNG day yesterday I spoke in depth with one of the convention chairs when he asked about my opinions for future show locations. During the conversation he also addressed the requirments and prerequisites of the ANA for convention locations. What was conveyed to me was intresting and worthy of discussion in the future.
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The criteria for the summer show should be: 1. Large metro area with a good potential draw located in sales tax friendly states. 2. Easy to reach by air by direct flights from across the US. A hub or focus city. 3. Quality convention facilities with tourist friendly areas nearby that are priced accordingly and secure for visitors and dealers. 4. Ample convenient hotels priced from the Red Roof to the Ritz.
Select 4 or 5 each in the east, central states and west and rotate the locations yearly. Drop the underperformers and add in new from successful spring/ fall shows.
Add a fall show, and along with the spring show, move them around to cities not on the summer show list using similar criteria.
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July in Colorado Springs is beyond comparison. Facilities? Dunno.
Basically, the summer ANA conventions have to be in BIG cities -- lots of hotels, big convention center, an airport that takes full size aircraft (otherwise, if dealer carry-on inventory bags don't fit in overheads, they're not coming -- seriously).
If it were up to me, there would be a 5 or 6 year rotation: Baltimore, Chicago, Denver, San Fran, Atlanta. Other good picks would be Philly, Pittsburgh, Portland, Dallas, etc.
The "early spring" (formerly called by the less-chipper name "Midwinters") can be in so-called "destination" cities. They don't need to be quite as big, but they should be scenic or interesting in order to draw from outside of the metropolitan area. New Orleans works. So would Tampa, or San Diego, or Albequerque, or San Antonio, or Las Vegas, or even San Juan. As long as they're sun belt, interesting, relatively easy to fly into, and have some external stuff that might draw a hobbyist or dealer to bring their wife/family. Midwinters tend to lack the foot traffic of the summer ANAs, which is a fact that those who set up at them have come to understand.
Some cities that would be great have major flaws that would keep people from coming: NYC is expensive to find good space, hotels, and union help; some folks worry about safety in LA or Detroit's downtown convention centers; Florida and Las Vegas are hot as hell in the summer time. Other cities are just notorious among dealers who have done shows just about everywhere for having no real collector base -- they sound good on paper, but without people to buy coins and volunteers to help run it, there's a tough row to hoe.
My personal favorites are Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Atlanta, and Denver. All have very active local collector bases, are within a days drive of a significant population, have good downtown facilities, and have a track record of hosting big shows. As nice as it would be to sleep in my own bed and take the subway to a convention here in NYC, I'd rather have Joe Collector spending his saved money at my table, not on $400/night hotel rooms.
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Omaha would knock the socks off of anyone who would actually come and see what we have to offer outside of the preconceived ideas, perceptions, etc. Visit Omaha
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Ask any visitor who was just here for the Olympic Swim Trials.
BUT as I have been recently reminded, it won't happen so why keep spittin' in the wind.
<< <i>Omaha is a nice small city, but there is not enough population to support a succesful major convention. >>
How much population is needed?
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and my favorite ,Hartford CT
New convention center with attatched
hotel, half way between NYC and Boston ,
revitalized downtown with plenty of
restaurants, 2 large casinos 1 hour away .
3 B & M coin shops about 30 minutes drive.
Coin collection display in state library
building . Two comedy clubs, one downtown
with microbrewery . All this and more , along
with high cost of living . And there is a coin club
that may arise from the ashes .
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<< <i><<It is inconceivable to me that one of the two ANA shows, every three years at a minimum, is not held in Washington, D.C. The ANA is a federally charterer organization. Much of its "history" is based on decisions and events made in the nation's capital. The ANA Board would be able to lobby the appropriate officials at the same time. Someplaces that have, routinely, had an ANA show over the past decade should be dropped and replaced with Washington, D.C.>> >>
The reason some obvious choices are missing is the way the system works. The ANA doesn't just pick a location. Instead, a local club agrees to host the event (which means a lot of work for the local club members) and invites the ANA. The participation of the local clubs keeps the cost down (lower dealer table fees, no admission fees, etc.) but means that locations without active clubs to pursue the event are never considered. I know that is the issue with Washington DC. There is no active club to support the show or even send the invite. It is probably the same with other traditional convention locations (e.g., New Orleans and Las Vegas) that don't seem to get an ANA.
WH >>
Here in Rochester, NY the local club is one of the oldest in the country, and has been operating continuously since 1912. I know that they are trying to land the ANA convention for their 100th anniversary. But as some here have pointed out, the city may not be big enough to attract it.
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<< <i>Omaha is a nice small city, but there is not enough population to support a succesful major convention. >>
How much population is needed?
Yeah, whats wrong with Omaha? Its nearly a million plus Des Moines with a half million is 2 hours away, Lincoln with another few hundred K is less than an hour and both Kansas City and Siuox Falls aren't that far so really yer lookin at 2-3 mil potential population. The percent of those who are coiners would be what is important.
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<< <i>Grand Rapids Michigan.
Seriously, Grand Rapids, Michigan is a viable option. If not for the ANA, then certainly for CSNS. A couple of years ago the American Philatelic Society held their national convention in downtown Grand Rapids (about 400 yards from my office when I lived in Grand Rapids). The convention center is large and relatively new (less than 10 years old). The population of tri-city area is over 1,300,000, with 750,000 in the city and surrounding suburbs. Grand Rapids is 3 hours from Chicago, 2 hours from Detroit, 8 hours from St. Louis and 5 hours from Indianapolis......all by way of car! Plus the city is centrally located in the U.S., albeit not as centrally located as St. Louis or Omaha. They also have an international airport that is just 30 minutes from downtown.
It is a super clean, cosmopolitan city with several new hotels in the downtown area. I lived there for 20 years and it is the best place I have ever resided.
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<< <i>Omaha is a nice small city, but there is not enough population to support a succesful major convention. >>
How much population is needed?
The issue with Omaha is that although it is one of the largest cities in the general region with a city population of about 430,000 and a metropolitan population of around 1.2 million, it is still considered as one of the smaller markets when compared to other areas around the country (60th(!) largest metro area in the U.S. according to Wikipedia). As Bajjerfan stated, Omaha is within a 6-hour drive of 2-3 million people. Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people. Chicago is within a few hours of at least 20 million people. Check television advertising market size ratings as an example, and you will see that Omaha is considered as one of the smaller metropolitan markets in the U.S.
Although this part is somewhat off topic, I still think it has some relevance and parallels the argument. I understand that Omaha is home to the college world series and the Olympic trials, and the Olympics trials in particular draw a great deal of attention, but Omaha lacks a team in the "big four" professional sports leagues. Regardless of what amateur and minor league enthusiasts say, it is a fact that professional sports teams will generate by far the most attention and financial revenue. It isn't that there is anything wrong with Omaha or Nebraska, it simply boils down to the fact that there are more appealing options available, and because of those options, Omaha unfortunately gets excluded from final consideration.
Personally I agree with most of John K's (Pistareen) post, and choosing the right place for an ANA convention isn't easy to say the least.
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If numismatists aren't really all that swingin - then maybe nearby Blue Ball, PA might be a better choice.
Seriously, the Wilmington, Delaware waterfront area might be worth looking into. The Old Swedes Church, featured on the Delaware Half Dollar, is nearby and still in operation.
note: There is no sales tax in Delaware.
also, the Philadelphia Airport is just a short drive - about 25 miles
<< <i> but Omaha lacks a team in the "big four" professional sports leagues. >>
We may not have a professional sports team but we do have more than one Fortune 500 Headquarters. USA Today - Omaha Sprouts unlikely cash crop: Corporate titans
From the article:
Omaha is probably not high on the list of cities people would name as being centers of commercial influence. It is 167 miles from the geographic middle of the continental USA, so it's about as far away from both Wall Street and Silicon Valley as you can get. It has an air of detachment, with minor league baseball, minimal traffic even at 5 o'clock and a median home price of $132,400 that is rising barely at the rate of inflation. You could buy Buffett's home for less than four shares of Berkshire Hathaway's $83,500-a-share class A stock.
Yet, Omaha has tremendous wealth, industry and influence for being in the middle of nowhere. It ranks eighth among the nation's 50 largest cities in both per-capita billionaires and Fortune 500 companies. No coastal city can claim a ranking as high as Omaha on both lists. Not San Francisco. Not Los Angeles nor New York — nor Houston. Philadelphia and Baltimore haven't a single billionaire between them, nor do 15 other cities in the top 50 by population. Honolulu has no Fortune 500 companies, nor do a dozen other cities among the largest 50.
<< <i>Intercourse, PA might be a good place for a bunch of swingin numismatists to hold a convention.
If numismatists aren't really all that swingin - then maybe nearby Blue Ball, PA might be a better choice.
Then again there's always Dry Prong, Louisiana.
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We are just outside NY city in Stamford, CT.... a short (less than 45 minute direct train right from NYC to CT)
Huge mega hotel with $99 special rate for the show from the regular $285 daily rate (its nice hotel)
CT has no tax on coins...thats why we moved over from NY
easy parking over 1,000 spots in garage
easy drive from Long Island, New Jersey, Mass, NY etc....
check out the show 150 dealers Major Auction we expect 5,000 people to show up!
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When I answered the ANA survey, I wanted the best of both worlds. It asked "do you want a regular number of rotating cities or as many different as possible". I wanted to answer "yes" to both.
There is a core of cities that should host an ANA convention every few years. Baltimore is almost the perfect city as can be seen by their 2008 selection even though it was "just there" in 2003.
Philadelphia, Boston, Charlotte,Virginia Beach, Pittsburgh, Atlanta would all be my East Coast choices in addition to Baltimore.
I would not attend a convention in NYC or Washington, DC.
<< <i>You all love NY which is what COINFEST is all about The NY show without the NY hassle..
We are just outside NY city in Stamford, CT.... a short (less than 45 minute direct train right from NYC to CT)
Huge mega hotel with $99 special rate for the show from the regular $285 daily rate (its nice hotel)
CT has no tax on coins...thats why we moved over from NY
easy parking over 1,000 spots in garage
easy drive from Long Island, New Jersey, Mass, NY etc....
check out the show 150 dealers Major Auction we expect 5,000 people to show up!
Coinfest Link >>
Very smart way to setup a show!
The weather is Beautiful @ that time of year.
You DO NOT want to have it here (Memphis) too crime ridden / not enough Police protection..
Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people.
That number is not so impressive when you consider that half of that total are illegal immigrants meth-heads and gang-bangers. Seriously though, it is not just the total population, but the demographics that must be considered.
The International Paper Money Show has been held in Memphis in June (usually) for the past 32 years without any problems. The Memphis Coin Club does a wonderful job with show setup and security. I've attended this show 22 times and wandered around downtown Memphis including Beale Street and everything has been fine.
So, I'm a bit confused by your statement. I think Memphis would be a great choice. The only issue I see is that Memphis is a "fortress hub" for Northwest so the air fares tend to be a bit high.
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<< <i>Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people.
That number is not so impressive when you consider that half of that total are illegal immigrants meth-heads and gang-bangers. Seriously though, it is not just the total population, but the demographics that must be considered. >>
If you count the illegal immigrants, etc. as stated then the population numbers would be much higher than the quoted 22 million. A person's residency status does not exclude them from the ability to buy coins or to attend coin shows. If other demographics are considered such as income status and occupation security then most of the Midwest is not feasible for convention hosting.
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<< <i>What Cities Would You Like to See a Future ANA Convention?
<< <i>lincoln, illinois would be THE IDEAL for 2009!
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<< <i>Seattle in July !!!
The weather is Beautiful @ that time of year.
You DO NOT want to have it here (Memphis) too crime ridden / not enough Police protection.. >>
I've heard that from a lot of people. I was in Memphis last month for a paper money show. I felt safe there. I guess it helps when you stay at the hotel that is connected to the convention center. There were plenty of cops around Beale Street. BTW.....
Beale Street RULES!!!
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<< <i>Compare that to Los Angeles which in a 5-hour radius from over 22 million or so people.
That number is not so impressive when you consider that half of that total are illegal immigrants meth-heads and gang-bangers. Seriously though, it is not just the total population, but the demographics that must be considered. >>
If you count the illegal immigrants, etc. as stated then the population numbers would be much higher than the quoted 22 million. A person's residency status does not exclude them from the ability to buy coins or to attend coin shows. If other demographics are considered such as income status and occupation security then most of the Midwest is not feasible for convention hosting. >>
There are plenty of folks with money in the midwest, but maybe they choose not to spend it on coins. Are locations like LA and other large venues considered to be mature in terms of coin sales; that is you can expect to sell a certain amount in Chicago, but don't plan on doubling sales. From that standpoint maybe its time to try something different just to be different.
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<< <i>What Cities Would You Like to See a Future ANA Convention? >>
lincoln, illinois would be THE IDEAL for 2009!
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springfield, ill would be my 2nd choice
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<< <i>Santa Clara, CA >>
On the surface Santa Clara would seem like an ideal location for a convention; it's close to an international airport, it has a nice convention facility, the area boasts one of the highest median salaries in the country, not to mention it would be a 15-minute commute for me. But on the other hand, the Santa Clara show currently has a difficult time attracting dealers to attend, and according to many dealers, Santa Clara consistenly ranks as one of the least desirable destinations on the "coin show circuit" to travel to. With those perceptions stacked against Santa Clara I would be a little apprehensive in choosing the area to host an ANA convention.
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1. Large metro area with a good potential draw located in sales tax friendly states.
2. Easy to reach by air by direct flights from across the US. A hub or focus city.
3. Quality convention facilities with tourist friendly areas nearby that are priced accordingly and secure for visitors and dealers.
4. Ample convenient hotels priced from the Red Roof to the Ritz.
Select 4 or 5 each in the east, central states and west and rotate the locations yearly. Drop the underperformers and add in new from successful spring/ fall shows.
Add a fall show, and along with the spring show, move them around to cities not on the summer show list using similar criteria.