The final table will not be till November so it will take a while to find out who wins...
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The 55-event schedule will begin May 30 with the World Championship in pot-limit hold 'em and end November 11 with the final table of the no-limit hold 'em main event.
<< <i>The final table will not be till November so it will take a while to find out who wins...
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The 55-event schedule will begin May 30 with the World Championship in pot-limit hold 'em and end November 11 with the final table of the no-limit hold 'em main event. >>
The final table will be played in a few days. It won't be broadcasted on television until November. I feel pretty safe in assuming that everyone here has the internet and will have easy access to find out who won.
walton- No, they will actually be playing the final table this year in November. It's so ridiculously stupid that I can't even put it into words. You know each of the unknowns will have a new "mentor" who teaches them nothing but poker for 4 months. What if a guy dies? Does his family get 9th place money?
I follow the world series events pretty close but hadn't heard of the final table being in November but it is true. Hellmuth just missed bracelet 12 last night in a horse event. Here is the schedule. http://www.cardplayer.com/tournaments/event_list/2022
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Kenny Tran - and Lee is right, the final table being in November is about dumbest thing I've ever heard. It takes away the marathon weariness that usually exists and effects decision making at the final table.
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This past Vegas trip (a couple weeks ago) I played in a handful of WSOP events and it's really turning into a crazy circus. The fields are pretty big and the spectators are just out of control. Playing with Hellmuth for a few hours, he got badbeat on a hand and a kid behind him in the crowd starts laughing and needling him. I think if you're spending your time standing in a crowd watching people play poker and heckling the players, it might be time to re-evaluate things.
BTW- Hellmuth is great. I also got to play with Annie Duke, Scotty Ngyuen, Men The Master, Humberto Brenes and Scott Ian (lead singer of Anthrax) who got horrifically badbeat. Tragically I did not cash in the events that I played, but that's life.
I played two $1500, two $2000, and a $2500 with absolutely no success whatsoever. I don't know what it is, I can never win in Vegas. I should just stick to AC- 3 final tables in 15 tourneys.
<< <i>This past Vegas trip (a couple weeks ago) I played in a handful of WSOP events and it's really turning into a crazy circus. The fields are pretty big and the spectators are just out of control. Playing with Hellmuth for a few hours, he got badbeat on a hand and a kid behind him in the crowd starts laughing and needling him. I think if you're spending your time standing in a crowd watching people play poker and heckling the players, it might be time to re-evaluate things.
BTW- Hellmuth is great. I also got to play with Annie Duke, Scotty Ngyuen, Men The Master, Humberto Brenes and Scott Ian (lead singer of Anthrax) who got horrifically badbeat. Tragically I did not cash in the events that I played, but that's life. >>
Dude, that is so cool!! I've always wanted to go play in one of the early tourneys, but you're right, the fields are so big that it's basically like buying lottery tickets. Whoever gets lucky at the right time ends up winning.
Lee, are the amateurs just playing way too loose for anyone with any real game to advance? I play a lot of poker (albeit not for your level of stakes), but from watching on TV, it seems like all the amateurs playing gunshots and 2 outers take out all of the pros early on. Is that the case even in the 2K Omaha and 1500 NL WSOP events too?
Maybe they need to somehow change things up so that you can not get "Pro" status until you have won so many tournies or so much money within a year. Like in golf, you can lose your PGA Tour card if you are not within a certain # on the list. Just a thought??
<< <i>Maybe they need to somehow change things up so that you can not get "Pro" status until you have won so many tournies or so much money within a year. Like in golf, you can lose your PGA Tour card if you are not within a certain # on the list. Just a thought?? >>
As much as I dislike amateur donks who play marginal hands and make horrible calls knocking out professionals who actually know how to play, the fact that the Main Event is open to anyone who has 10K to play has always been what makes it special.
Plus, I guarantee that most pros like having all the donks there. They bring new money in. Dead money they call it. And even when those donks win money in big tourneys, they most likely end up losing most of it back to the pros in live games.
Everyone is due, but how can you expect a guy to fight through a 12,000 player field and not run into a few bad beats? It's crazy to think we can predict who could win that thing. Anyone have Joe Hachem in that thing three years ago? And he's a PRO. My guess is no one had Jamie Gold.
Your intentions are really superb but the contest is almost impossible since a "nobody" has won the tournament since 2002 when David Varkoni won.
As most who follow this know - the 2003 winner Chris Moneymaker heralded in the "main event craze" with an incredible amount of people willing to fork out 10K for the privilege of sitting next to the likes of Texas Dolly e.g.
Latest winners:
2007: Jerry Yang $8,250,000
2006: Jamie Gold $12,000,000
2005: Joseph Hachem $7,500,000
2004: Greg Raymer $5,000,000
2003: Chris Moneymaker $2,500,000
2002: Robert Varkonyi $2,000,000
A suggestion for a modification of the contest that would be realistic?
Ask everyone to name the final 9 table participants - the one with the most picks - wins.
I could not believe that Scotty Ngyuen self destructed last year and didn't make the final table!
What do ya think?
Last - the main event is incredible entertainment IMO - ya never know what's gonna happen and some of the characters like Hevad Kahn made it fun to watch.
The bad players allow for great tourneys. Busting someone early who can't lay down top pair or a flush draw is how you build your chip stack so you can actually play some poker when the blinds get up there. Omaha is even better because bad players misread their hands and miscount their outs all the time. The guy who won the PLO event about 3 years ago misread his hand at the final table and still managed to luckbox himself a bracelet, but stuff like that rarely happens.
For the most part tourneys are like lottery tickets- no matter how good you are the fields are so big that you're going to need to catch cards and avoid getting unlucky to win. The key is to choose tourneys with buyins your bankroll can comfortably afford and take a few shots here and there. If you're going to get all pissed off and storm out of the room when you get badbeat, that means the money meant too much to you so you shouldn't have played the tourney.
Also, something to note- they implemented an excessive celebration penalty, so you won't see anybody re-enacting Mortal Kombat scenes or dancing around like a jackass after winning a hand.
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The 55-event schedule will begin May 30 with the World Championship in pot-limit hold 'em and end November 11 with the final table of the no-limit hold 'em main event.
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<< <i>The final table will not be till November so it will take a while to find out who wins...
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The 55-event schedule will begin May 30 with the World Championship in pot-limit hold 'em and end November 11 with the final table of the no-limit hold 'em main event. >>
The final table will be played in a few days. It won't be broadcasted on television until November. I feel pretty safe in assuming that everyone here has the internet and will have easy access to find out who won.
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Maybe everyone could give their 9 picks for the final table. Whoever gets 2 correct wins?
just a thought
Lots of poker fans on the boards!
Edit: Especially online.
November is about dumbest thing I've ever heard. It takes away the marathon weariness that usually exists and effects decision making at the final table.
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Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
BTW- Hellmuth is great. I also got to play with Annie Duke, Scotty Ngyuen, Men The Master, Humberto Brenes and Scott Ian (lead singer of Anthrax) who got horrifically badbeat. Tragically I did not cash in the events that I played, but that's life.
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<< <i>This past Vegas trip (a couple weeks ago) I played in a handful of WSOP events and it's really turning into a crazy circus. The fields are pretty big and the spectators are just out of control. Playing with Hellmuth for a few hours, he got badbeat on a hand and a kid behind him in the crowd starts laughing and needling him. I think if you're spending your time standing in a crowd watching people play poker and heckling the players, it might be time to re-evaluate things.
BTW- Hellmuth is great. I also got to play with Annie Duke, Scotty Ngyuen, Men The Master, Humberto Brenes and Scott Ian (lead singer of Anthrax) who got horrifically badbeat. Tragically I did not cash in the events that I played, but that's life. >>
Dude, that is so cool!! I've always wanted to go play in one of the early tourneys, but you're right, the fields are so big that it's basically like buying lottery tickets. Whoever gets lucky at the right time ends up winning.
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<< <i>Maybe they need to somehow change things up so that you can not get "Pro" status until you have won so many tournies or so much money within a year. Like in golf, you can lose your PGA Tour card if you are not within a certain # on the list. Just a thought?? >>
As much as I dislike amateur donks who play marginal hands and make horrible calls knocking out professionals who actually know how to play, the fact that the Main Event is open to anyone who has 10K to play has always been what makes it special.
Plus, I guarantee that most pros like having all the donks there. They bring new money in. Dead money they call it. And even when those donks win money in big tourneys, they most likely end up losing most of it back to the pros in live games.
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I think he is due to win it.
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<< <i>Daniel Negreanu >>
I think he is due to win it. >>
Everyone is due, but how can you expect a guy to fight through a 12,000 player field and not run into a few bad beats? It's crazy to think we can predict who could win that thing. Anyone have Joe Hachem in that thing three years ago? And he's a PRO. My guess is no one had Jamie Gold.
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Your intentions are really superb but the contest is almost impossible since a "nobody" has won the tournament since 2002 when David Varkoni won.
As most who follow this know - the 2003 winner Chris Moneymaker heralded in the "main event craze" with an incredible amount of people willing to fork out 10K for the privilege of sitting next to the likes of Texas Dolly e.g.
Latest winners:
2007: Jerry Yang $8,250,000
2006: Jamie Gold $12,000,000
2005: Joseph Hachem $7,500,000
2004: Greg Raymer $5,000,000
2003: Chris Moneymaker $2,500,000
2002: Robert Varkonyi $2,000,000
A suggestion for a modification of the contest that would be realistic?
Ask everyone to name the final 9 table participants - the one with the most picks - wins.
I could not believe that Scotty Ngyuen self destructed last year and didn't make the final table!
What do ya think?
Last - the main event is incredible entertainment IMO - ya never know what's gonna happen and some of the characters like Hevad Kahn made it fun to watch.
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For the most part tourneys are like lottery tickets- no matter how good you are the fields are so big that you're going to need to catch cards and avoid getting unlucky to win. The key is to choose tourneys with buyins your bankroll can comfortably afford and take a few shots here and there. If you're going to get all pissed off and storm out of the room when you get badbeat, that means the money meant too much to you so you shouldn't have played the tourney.