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BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just wondering if anyone knows when this rumored book will be published?
Who is/are the author(s)? What will it include that will make me want to buy it (if I already have Browning)

Thanks

Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Brad Karoleff and Glenn Peterson are the coauthors of the update for the Browning book. As of the last JRCS meeting at the Denver ANA, Glenn Peterson said that they are still working on it and gave no date that it would be done.
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Anyone hear anything about another Bust Quarter book in the works, from a Seattle area author? I don't know which book will be finished first.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven't heard of any book from the guy I think you're referring to. Should we lay odds and start a pool on which will hit the press first? image
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Out of courtesy to Glenn and Brad, I have chosen to not ask about the completion of the book. I will just have to be patient. My understanding is that the delay is due to imaging issues. They are going to make the new reference top-notch and will not sacrifice quality for timing. This will be a fantastic work that has been long needed. There are a couple of other supplemental books in the works by other authors as well.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it discourteous to inquire about a work one is interested in and eagerly anticipating?

    I don't want to bug anyone, and certainly understand the priority of quality over timing; probably no one desires to have repeated the kind of errata contained in Overton's 4th.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it discourteous to inquire about a work one is interested in and eagerly anticipating?

    I don't want to bug anyone, and certainly understand the priority of quality over timing; probably no one desires to have repeated the kind of errata contained in Overton's 4th. >>



    No, it is not discourteous at all. I made my comment about not asking anymore, just because I see these guys at shows on a regular basis and I don't want to put pressure on them. I am sure that they are thrilled that so many collectors are eager to receive their copy of the book. I agree with you about Overton 4th edition.
  • The issue was that when Brad signed on, he insisted on the best possible images for the book. This necessitated a start from scratch with new photographers seeking the finest knowns of various die marriages and die states and remarriages. Progress is being made and the book will be published in our lifetimes. Several years ago, two years was the party line on a date for release. TPL is now a year or less.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a year from when?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    Baley et al,

    There is a book that is done and currently at the printer. It is not however by the authors listed above.

    In the next week or so there will be more announcements in the trade pubs and other websites as well as some of the online club publications.

    Here it is:


    The Exciting and Long Awaited News!!!

    Announcing a totally new, from scratch, book on the Early United States Quarter series.

    Not an update, but a new work encompassing the 1796 – 1838 era.

    EARLY UNITED STATES QUARTERS
    1796 – 1838
    By Steve M. Tompkins

    In this monumental new hardbound work, printed and bound in the U.S.A., you will find 448 pages covering each year and the known die marriages, along with background of the early mint. Included are quick finding charts and pictorials, as well as, oversized color photos of every die marriage. Along with new rarity ratings and a new condition census, as an added bonus there are in-depth studies on the rare 1823’s and 1827’s (including pedigree's).
    The appendixes are chock full of interesting information on among other things, quarter patterns, private re-strikes, error coins, and the mysterious E & L countermarks, along with several useful charts, die re-marriage listings, and much, much more!!

    The finished book is slated to be back from the printer before the ANA show in Baltimore and is now on sale at an introductory pre-publication price of just $79.00 delivered. This price is only good until July 1st, at which time it will be raised to $89.00 plus postage. Get yours ordered today!

    Please send all payments, comments and questions to:

    Steve M. Tompkins
    P.O. Box 1946
    Sequim, WA 98382
    Smt115@aol.com


    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • Purple73Purple73 Posts: 2,016


    << <i>Just wondering if anyone knows when this rumored book will be published?
    Who is/are the author(s)? What will it include that will make me want to buy it (if I already have Browning)

    Thanks >>



    Yeah Baley, Just got it in the mail the other day , you should see the size of her fun......Wrong forum LOL
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Where's my checkbook....OH, there it is. I'm hoping it's really good, and 448 pages sounds like it will be.

    $79, I take it. I just wish I hadn't bought a car otherwise I would have bought two!!!

    Thanks Steve T. for all the work that you have done going into this book and for Quarternut for letting us know.
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've ordered Steve Tompkins' new book also. I've heard from a few people who have seen small portions of the book, and it should be excellent. Great photos of every variety, making attribution much easier. Definitely looking forward to receiving it.

    The second book expected is the update of the Browning book, which would be the 4th edition. Also expected to be a great book.

    The third book being worked on now includes photos of many of the condition census coins of each of the scarce and rare varieties, and several other things incl. a condition census listing and many other things.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    image TTT

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    One thing is for sure, this new Bust Quarter book will be cause for increased demand for the quarters.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the U.S., how many people collect bust quarters by variety do you think? More or fewer than 200?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Baley, the number of collectors who collect Bust Quarters by variety is almost certainly not more than 50, and the number is probably closer to 25-30.

    I would be totally surprised if it reached more than 100 or even 200.
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't question that the number of Bust quarter collectors, by die marriage, is small, but I think you tend to underestimate the entire population. There may be only 25-30 who belong to the Bust Quarter Collectors Society, or about that number that you know personally and see regularly at shows, but I would submit that the actual number is somewhat higher. I used to think the same of the collectors of Capped Bust half dimes, until I became the census keeper for the JRCS. Not all collectors belong to national collectors' organizations, participate in on-line forums, and go to national shows. The world is a great big place, and there are many collectors out there who might have picked up a copy of Browning's book years ago and quietly collect the quarters by die marriage. I would venture a guess that for every Bust quarter collector you can name there are three more that you do not know, who do not make their collecting activities public. I am constantly meeting and hearing of collectors who just learned of the JRCS, or this forum, or the Bust forum, who have collected for years, very quietly, behind the scenes. Knowing this, I would estimate that the actual number who collect Bust quarters by die marriage, to one extent or another, is closer to 200. Almost certainly, most of this demographic would be older men, perhaps many of whom no longer go to shows, and many who do not belong to any collector group.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    I personally believe there may be even more than 200. Think about it. Collectors tend to collect in different ways, even die marriage collectors.

    People collect at different grade levels, which for the Bust Quarter series is definately a good thing due to the lack of coins to go around. All I read on the online forums such as this, and in talking to individual collectors, is that everyone would like to collect them, there is only the problem of obtaining examples. No matter how many Bust Quarter collectors there may be by die marriage there are at least 19 to 20 marriages that only 75 or less collectors can obtain a specimen of due to rarity. Let's not even talk about how many collectors could do a set in anything approaching AU or Uncirculated grades!

    I also believe there is a greater number of collectors who collect Bust Quarters by Red book Variety, date, or type.

    As MrHalfDime said there are many collectors that remain anonymous and can't be counted. While only 23 collectors reported their holdings in the last JRCS census, I personally know of at least 10 more Bust Quarter collectors who belong to JRCS and for one reason or another did not volunteer to have their coins counted.

    Once a new book is out some of the type and date collectors will move into die marriage collecting and there will be new collectors drawn to the series. The fact that there are three distinct types to focus on will also lend itself to a larger collector base.

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great thoughts everyone! Put the question of number of collectors another way: How many of these new books are in the first printing? How many have been pre-sold? Those would be fascinating data

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    900 hardbound for the first run.

    Over 100 already pre-sold so far.

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
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    Just wanted to bump this thread up to say thank you to all the members who have already sent payment for the pre-publication offering of my new book "Early United States Quarters 1796 - 1838". The printed signatures are at the binders, with hopefully a small quantity of the finished books being available at the upcoming ANA.

    I also wanted to remind anyone who has been procrastinating in placing their order (and you know who you are!), that after 7/15 the price will be raised to the cover price of $89.00 plus postage. Any order postmarked by the 15th of July will be taken at the pre-publication price of $79.00 delivered. Please send all payments to the address listed below:

    Steve Tompkins
    P.O. Box 1946
    Sequim, WA 98382

    Thanks again,
    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    TTT

    For the evening crowd!

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    So, when do you think the books will start hitting the shipping stage of their journey, for those not fortunate enough to go to Baltimore?

    Before August? Before August 10th? I ask because I won't want to miss it before I leave for college (On the 15th)

    Again, thanks for the update. I've got 2 Bust Quarters in the mail and need to check this book to know the exact details on them.
  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    Will the book be available for viewing at the Baltimore ANA if not for sale? Thank you.
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  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    So, when do you think the books will start hitting the shipping stage of their journey, for those not fortunate enough to go to Baltimore?

    I will do all I can to ship them out as soon as I get them. I am leaving to head to Baltimore on the 25th so if they don't get to me before then it will be 8/11 before I could get any in the mail.

    Here's hoping that I can get it to you before you leave for school! image

    Will the book be available for viewing at the Baltimore ANA if not for sale?

    At the very least I will have a ring bound copy and perhaps one of the special leather bounds to show around. If they get done before 7/28, I should have a few cases of books there to sell at the show. Right now I am slated to sign books on Friday 8/1 at Wizard Supplies and I hope I have something to sign!

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • firstmintfirstmint Posts: 1,171
    Just sign the tablecloth, cut it up, and send it out with the books laterimage
    PM me if you are looking for U.S. auction catalogs
  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    image!!!

    Good one Karl! They could become collector items in their own right!

    QN

    Go to Early United States Coins - to order the New "Early United States Half Dollar Vol. 1 / 1794-1807" book or the 1st new Bust Quarter book!

  • GABGAB Posts: 641
    I just got mine !!image

    So far it appears to be a MUST HAVE for anyone interested in Early Quarters!!

    "Early United States
    Quarters
    1796 - 1838"

    By Steve M. Tompkins

    Thanks to Steve and all who contributed!
    Golf time!!
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I got my copy yesterday and it is excellent!! Well worth the wait.image
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I also love my copy, thanks again Steve image

    BTW- Thanks to your book, I've begun to look more closely to the small size quarters, and picked up a tougher one recently.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just got mine !!image

    So far it appears to be a MUST HAVE for anyone interested in Early Quarters!!

    "Early United States
    Quarters
    1796 - 1838"

    By Steve M. Tompkins

    Thanks to Steve and all who contributed! >>




    Got my book today and it is great. Thanks Steve.image
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