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1992 - For those collecting - share a moment with us?
Stone193
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This was in the same box with the other items I misplaced a while back - I saved it since it had Shaq on the cover and he was white hot that year!
OK - it was the height of the hobby explosion of modern - so many sets - too many great inserts that were hot as all get out!
What do I remember most?
No ebay, the internet was new to the hobby - sportsnet was all the rage, most purchases made live or thru pubs like SCD, Tuff Stuff - Beckett was still standing fast to their morals that they should just do the stats - not promote or sell them.
This was just after I took my son to the National in Atlanta - he had a great time - getting autos - seeing greats like Johnny Bench, Pete Rose and much to my chagrin - Willie Mays.
I think Justin pulling his first Rookie Sensation from a 92F cello pack stands out also.
What about you?
That was a great year in the hobby for many people.
Thanx for sharing.
mike
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That was about the time I left the hobby, but I do remember pulling a few Topps "Gold" cards and getting overexcited about them.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
1992 Donruss Diamond Kings. For the first time they were high end inserts. People buying packs like crazy hoping to score the DK.
1992 Fleer Ultra was the first set of its kind with the high gloss technology. The inserts were one of the most popular cards I had ever seen. Award winners, All Stars, etc. All the sports too. Fleer finally got into autographs with their Ultra inserts. I think it was Gwynn?
1992 Topps had the scratch offs for gold cards. Once they got in HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS of winners because if you held them up to the light, you could scratch the winning area, they reprinted and stamped the mail ins with "winner". Topps also did the entire Factory Gold Set with the special Brien Taylor autograph. I remember the auto alone selling for 80-100 bucks.
Just some things off the top of my head.
Edited to say that I suppose Stadium Club in 1991 was the first real high gloss set....but ultra surpassed in quality by a football field.
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
<< <i>I was out of the hobby from 1987 until 2003, I think it was a good thing I missed out on all those 1988 and up overproduced stuff- although I wished I got into Vintage during those years! >>
I wished I had spent more time on the 19th and turn of the century baseball.
mike
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This was just after I took my son to the National in Atlanta - he had a great time - getting autos - seeing greats like Johnny Bench, Pete Rose and much to my chagrin - Willie Mays.
Thanx for sharing.
mike >>
Why was Mays to your chagrin? Did he disappoint? I've never seen him in person.
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<< <i>One word: Bowman. >>
I don't remember 1992 Bowman taking off until AFTER 1992. I still recall dismissing 1992 Bowman as lame, and spending my high school lunch money on the cool looking 1992 Fleer Ultra.
The local Albersons had 2 bins full of 1992 Bowman cellos in the front of the store, untouched, for months until they pulled them for something else.
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Oh man, this card was the craze!!!! I remember the talk that went along with it....people actually thought she was good!
There was a liquor store down the street where I worked and
I would always tell the store owner to hold them for me when
he ordered them. The Frank Thomas rookie sensation was the craze,
along with the Bagwell, and Phil Plantier. Two other things happened
that year for me.....I pulled my first autograph card from a pack. It was
the Tony Gwynn from the 92 Fleer Ultra packs, and sold it for $150. This
was also the year I was introduced to Pack Wars, and Box Wars. Yes, we
would Box War whatever.....best card in the entire box takes everything,
and the loser had to pay for everything.
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This was just after I took my son to the National in Atlanta - he had a great time - getting autos - seeing greats like Johnny Bench, Pete Rose and much to my chagrin - Willie Mays.
Thanx for sharing.
mike >>
Why was Mays to your chagrin? Did he disappoint? I've never seen him in person. >>
Johnny Bench and Rose were the best - they were friendly - happy and havin' a good ole time while signing.
Then we got to Mays - the line was short and that musta bothered him big time - he never looked up to say something to my son and I just looked at him and walked off. What a tool!
mike
<< <i>Oh man, this card was the craze!!!! I remember the talk that went along with it....people actually thought she was good! >>
Well, she was definitely good LOOKING. I was 15 when she got popular and I went a little ga ga over her.
Two other sets that defined 1992 were Fleer Update with Piazza, Tim Salmon, etc. and 1992 Score Traded. (It was about as popular but it didn't have a Piazza.)
I remember buying 1992 Basketball and thinking man, there are some nice photos in this set, so clear you could see the expressions of the fans on a lot of cards!!
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This was in the same box with the other items I misplaced a while back - I saved it since it had Shaq on the cover and he was white hot that year!
OK - it was the height of the hobby explosion of modern - so many sets - too many great inserts that were hot as all get out!
What do I remember most?
No ebay, the internet was new to the hobby - sportsnet was all the rage, most purchases made live or thru pubs like SCD, Tuff Stuff - Beckett was still standing fast to their morals that they should just do the stats - not promote or sell them.
This was just after I took my son to the National in Atlanta - he had a great time - getting autos - seeing greats like Johnny Bench, Pete Rose and much to my chagrin - Willie Mays.
I think Justin pulling his first Rookie Sensation from a 92F cello pack stands out also.
What about you?
That was a great year in the hobby for many people.
Thanx for sharing.
mike >>
I was buying 1992 Topps Stadium Club Basketball Series 2 cases ( which I still have) for $180.00 a box which was a good deal at the time. Drove 200 miles to get them. I just sold one box for a couple of months ago for $19.95. Like I said in another post, I have had my ass handed to me more than a couple of times in this hobby/business or is it business/hobby? chaz
<< <i>1992 was the year I hunted for Fleer Cello packs.
There was a liquor store down the street where I worked and
I would always tell the store owner to hold them for me when
he ordered them. The Frank Thomas rookie sensation was the craze,
along with the Bagwell, and Phil Plantier. Two other things happened
that year for me.....I pulled my first autograph card from a pack. It was
the Tony Gwynn from the 92 Fleer Ultra packs, and sold it for $150. This
was also the year I was introduced to Pack Wars, and Box Wars. Yes, we
would Box War whatever.....best card in the entire box takes everything,
and the loser had to pay for everything. >>
No love for Rich Delucia?
My "baseball childhood" ended
1992 was Gary Carter's last year.
I remember spending most of my money on the Ultra. Probably was $4-$6 a pack back then. Also remember buying a bunch of Donruss Rookie packs looking for some insert card that I forget mainly because the Wal-Mart also had Bowman Jumbo Blisters that my friend was "stupid" for buying b/c they were "worthless"
As it turns out everyone who collected then spent way more than they should have.
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<< <i>Oh gosh yeah...92 Gold Leaf Rookies...hotter than hot! >>
I was actually refering to the 1992 Leaf Gold parallel set, not the Gold Leaf Rookies set. That was one of the most beautifully designed parallel sets ever. I'm considering starting a run of Leaf sets up to 1995 but not unless I can start with this set (because by comparasion, the regular 1992 Leaf set is a yawner).
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
I remember parallel cards becoming big...with 92 topps starting it off with topps gold. High end sets, like studio, stadium club and ultra, were on fire. Insert cards, specifically donruss elite and the upperdeck sigs, were gaining momentum (i would say in 94-95 is when they really caught on fire). Griffey, Ryan, Ripken, Thomas and Gonzalez were the big names in the hobby.
My sister collected basketball...given this, i kept up with the basketball portion of the hobby for the most part though i didnt personally collect. Shaq really sparked interest in collecting basketball cards. I think his cards really ushered the hobby into the mainstream. The 86-87 fleer set...and return of topps...those are big moments in the hobby....but it seems like 92 going forward was when basketball collecting gained more relevance.
<< <i>The local Albersons had 2 bins full of 1992 Bowman cellos in the front of the store, untouched, for months until they pulled them for something else. >>
Ahh...the local Albertsons was my source for cards. Shops were too far from where i lived...and my parents weren't exactly huge supporters of my interest in collecting, of all things, cardboard pictures of baseball players. I remember always going to the front of the store to view the newest products...always asking my mom if i could buy a pack or two. Albertsons held card shows twice a year. Very fond memories. I remember Darryl Kile, who owned a home in the area, would make an appearance or two to sign balls and cards.
I got lucky one day and stumbled accross a case of Stadium Club at Pace membership warehouse.
I didn't make a ton of money in my shop, but 1992 was a good year.
Shane
In Baseball - Frank Thomas was the key piece...I would have to guess that very few sell for more than retail today.
In Basketball - Larry Johnson and Mutumbo were the tough pieces.... this was the last real year you could go in the store and still find stars on the shelf (Jordan)
In Football - Marino was a tough piece....Earnest Byner was the last pieces I needed for my set (another sign that you could still find them in stores)
Forgotten card memories - I made a bundle buying and then selling Fleer Ultra Pat Listach rookies that summer. Upper Deck minor league baseball was a personal favorite to open.
Events from that era that I remember.......
Graded cards started showing up......... changing the hobby forever (IMO in a bad way).
Biggest (most important) baseball card collection ever was broken up and sold in March 1991 (Copeland collection sold through Sotheby's)
The Auction Catalog is one of the bibles of PreWar card collecting.
PS the T206 Wagner sold for $410K + juice ......... this is the Gretzky/McNall Wagner, purchased raw, and rumored (known) even then to be trimmed and was almost returned right after the auction............ later becoming the PSA-8 we all know now.
Also 1916 F-Unc. Tango Eggs cards were "discovered" that year (hoard of about 500 found).
I used to subscribe to "The Old Judge" and couldnt wait til the next copy arrived. I learned more from Lipset's monthly newsletter and encyclopedia that anything else.
Eric Lindros was the man.. a leader who did it all.. he hit hard, fought, scored, passed and I got to meet him at a autograph signing at a sports equipment shop. I got my picture in the paper with him signing the back of my jersey at the event and still have the clipping and the jersey framed on my wall. If only he could have learned to keep his damn head up.
This card had so much hype because his head was placed on someone's body! spooooky magic! and a SP! Wow!
I remember my dad buying me these horribly sweet chocolate hockey pucks that had one card within the pack.
The illusive ProSet Stanley Cup hologram insert.. I opened hundreds of packs and never got one. It would have been like hitting the lottery back then. One just sold on eBay for $13.
Mask cards..
I thought Manon Rheaume was hot but I didn't collect her.
Getting any Russian in a pack was gold.
Teemu Selanne Rookie Cards! He shattered the rookie scoring record by scoring 132 points and his 76 goals was also a rookie record.
Enter the Ottawa Senators and Tampa Bay Lightning.
McDonalds hockey cards!
Gretzky and McNall partnered to buy the Honus Wagner T206 card for $500,000
I could go on and on.
- Garret
1992 was a great year in the hobby!
Does anyone remember getting exicted when the SCD arrived - it was thick - full of ads and articles - and actually took a bit of time to go thru!
What about all the promos?
The Shaq promos were going thru the roof!
The lower right Shaq is the "stat back" promo from the National - that stuff ruled the planet that year!
mike
Snorto~
Also, I remember a woman at my favorite card shop that started crying when she pulled one of these from a pack:
Sure was fun back then. I will admit to actually liking 1992 Fleer baseball! Yikes!
Robert
This is right from that issue - would like to have pulled the trigger on this one - from the BBCKid when Murphy was a big name in wax.
mike
Also ripped this in '92. value even less. Just noticed this after having these for sixteen years. Same suit and tie -likely both card photos were taken the same afternoon;
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Sweet item - the BBCKid found a shoebox of these from a little ole lady who only drove them to church on Sundays!
What a great item to have today.
mike