1848 Large Date vs. Small Date H10c
rhedden
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The 1848 large date half dime is one of the most frequently misattributed varieties in any series of U.S. coins. The medium date is frequently offered as a Large date, with a premium asking price. Apparently, PCGS confuses them, too. Here's a medium date in a large date slab:
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Nice coin for the grade, but it's a medium date.
Below is a pic of an actual large date. The numerals actually overlap the base of Liberty's gown.
Another misconception is that the Large date is "rare." It is actually "scarce" at best. I have three of them, and I bet Mr. HalfDime has something like 42 of them in different die states.
Ebay auction
Nice coin for the grade, but it's a medium date.
Below is a pic of an actual large date. The numerals actually overlap the base of Liberty's gown.
Another misconception is that the Large date is "rare." It is actually "scarce" at best. I have three of them, and I bet Mr. HalfDime has something like 42 of them in different die states.
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<< <i> I have three of them, and I bet Mr. HalfDime has something like 42 of them in different die states.
That's why they are rare. Hoarders have them all.
<< <i>That is one gigantic date.
Yeah, much bigger and it'd have to be on a dime
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<< <i>That is one gigantic date.
Yeah, much bigger and it'd have to be on a dime
I believe it was the date punch for the dime.
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Great thread, Rhedden. I believe that the 1848 V1 Large Date half dime is perhaps the most frequently misattributed coin in the series. I have begun carrying a photograph of a bonafide 1848 Large Date half dime with me to shows, to show to dealers who have misattributed coins in their display cases.
The numeral punches used on the 1848 V1 Large Date half dime were intended for use on a dime. They were ganged in a logotype, or gang punch, and punched into the working die.
Later die states exhibit a die crack on the reverse, from the rim at K12, to E2, into the field, to L of HALF, to M of DIME and to the right bow. There are also some significant raised die lines, most visible at ERICA.
A still later die state exhibits another die crack on the reverse, from the base of I in DIME, to the left wreath, to the left stem, and to the rim at K7. I would appreciate any offers of an 1848 Large Date V1 in this latest die state.
Edited to add the latest die state.
and the Breen Encyclopedia have clear images of the
difference. No?
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roadrunner
and the Breen Encyclopedia have clear images of the
difference. No?"
Well, so it would seem. Nonetheless, the 1848 V1 Large Date is frequently seen misattributed, perhaps more than any other half dime in the series.
<< <i>"Seems kinda hard to mess it up, since the V1 plate image
and the Breen Encyclopedia have clear images of the
difference. No?"
Well, so it would seem. Nonetheless, the 1848 V1 Large Date is frequently seen misattributed, perhaps more than any other half dime in the series. >>
This is something I've never understood about this PCGS site. This thread and others is an
informative discussion and clarifies issues brought up here, but is available such a short time.
Why isn't there a section for Reference on this site where one can see an example of this type of variety,
that is clearly imaged & labeled so one can see the difference?
I realize there is a search capability, but having to wade through old threads isn't very efficient,
whereas going to a corner of this website would only be a few clicks away.
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