Just got a neg....deserved?
OnlyThe10s
Posts: 1,850
I sold THIS card on 1/27.
The card is labeled by PSA as "no trade line in bio" so that's how I advertised it. I knew nothing about this card because it was part of a bulk purchase I made.
The card is actually the "with trade line in bio" variation, so PSA mislabeled it.
Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded.
Buyer then leaves me a neg saying, "Sent different item had to got to PayPal dispute - be careful - not recommeded"... TOTALLY UNNECESSARY in my mind. If you file a claim that was obviously PSA's mistake, and you get a refund, why not just call it an oops?
I left him a neg because he negged me. This was not just "retaliation" but I wanted other sellers to be aware that he's not a good eBayer IMO, he should've been happy with the refund.
Thoughts?
The card is labeled by PSA as "no trade line in bio" so that's how I advertised it. I knew nothing about this card because it was part of a bulk purchase I made.
The card is actually the "with trade line in bio" variation, so PSA mislabeled it.
Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded.
Buyer then leaves me a neg saying, "Sent different item had to got to PayPal dispute - be careful - not recommeded"... TOTALLY UNNECESSARY in my mind. If you file a claim that was obviously PSA's mistake, and you get a refund, why not just call it an oops?
I left him a neg because he negged me. This was not just "retaliation" but I wanted other sellers to be aware that he's not a good eBayer IMO, he should've been happy with the refund.
Thoughts?
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You should just contact ebay and make them take it off, tell them the story and see what they say. I think they should have no problem to take it off, but not positive.
Either way, good luck man and sorry about that.
Giovanni
Did he just do that w/o asking you first?
I wrote my reply b4 I even looked at the auction, all that over a 1.00 item?
Yikes.
Steve
Steve: Correct, he went to Paypal first without contacting me. Ridiculous.
<< <i>I sold THIS card on 1/27.
The card is labeled by PSA as "no trade line in bio" so that's how I advertised it. I knew nothing about this card because it was part of a bulk purchase I made.
The card is actually the "with trade line in bio" variation, so PSA mislabeled it.
Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded.
Buyer then leaves me a neg saying, "Sent different item had to got to PayPal dispute - be careful - not recommeded"... TOTALLY UNNECESSARY in my mind. If you file a claim that was obviously PSA's mistake, and you get a refund, why not just call it an oops?
I left him a neg because he negged me. This was not just "retaliation" but I wanted other sellers to be aware that he's not a good eBayer IMO, he should've been happy with the refund.
Thoughts? >>
Way to hold feedback hostage and nail him, kid! Retaliatory feedbacks are my favorite!! Great job! I see you're always on the lookout to attract new buyers.
I left him a neg because he negged me. This was not just "retaliation"
Umm...then what is it?
It is not worth getting the neg reversed.
Steve
the buyer leaving an email stating they are happy or positive feedback first.
Simply paying does not end the buyers responcibilty.
Steve
<< <i>Then your neg (to him) is justified.
It is not worth getting the neg reversed.
Steve >>
Thank you Steve. Apparantly Dumby has a different opinion, wow, there's something new.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
Giovanni
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<< <i>Then your neg (to him) is justified.
It is not worth getting the neg reversed.
Steve >>
Thank you Steve. Apparantly Dumby has a different opinion, wow, there's something new. >>
I'mOnly10, I'm sorry but with your history of half-truths, partial stories and leaving out important details...along with your even longer history of HORRIBLE ebay, B/S/T experiences and everything else that surrounds your overall bad-karma-induced issues, I would tend to think that there's more at play than what you're saying here.
I would imagine that if the buyer were to be brought here and asked, there would be a whole other side to the story that would likely include an email to you stating that the flip was wrong. Paypal also gives sellers a chance to make things right, which you apparently did not do here.
<< <i>it's all a moot point in a few weeks, when sellers can't leave feedback and the negs will greatly increase. >>
Which is why I've sold over 300 cards in the past couple months and I'll just sell one here and there when the new system comes.
<< <i>it's all a moot point in a few weeks, when sellers can't leave feedback and the negs will greatly increase. >>
Says who?
Everybody got their own stories to tell, but I went to those ebay chat boards and found out that when that new system or whatevr comes, you still don't have to leave feedbacks first has a seller, so who said this???
Giovanni
That way they know that the item has shipped, with others I simply email them
telling them the item is on the way. I also explain that they need not leave feedback first
that an email telling me that they have received the item and are happy will suffice.
Again communication is key.
I will then leave them a positive.
Steve
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<< <i>Then your neg (to him) is justified.
It is not worth getting the neg reversed.
Steve >>
Thank you Steve. Apparantly Dumby has a different opinion, wow, there's something new. >>
I'mOnly10, I'm sorry but with your history of half-truths, partial stories and leaving out important details...along with your even longer history of HORRIBLE ebay, B/S/T experiences and everything else that surrounds your overall bad-karma-induced issues, I would tend to think that there's more at play than what you're saying here.
I would imagine that if the buyer were to be brought here and asked, there would be a whole other side to the story that would likely include an email to you stating that the flip was wrong. Paypal also gives sellers a chance to make things right, which you apparently did not do here. >>
Craig, everyone here knows that you're just talking sh*t again, like you always do. You want the e-mail address of the more than 30 board members I've done business with on the BST boards?
And yes, Paypal does offer a chance to make things right... a refund... which I did.... did oyu even read this?
Crawl back into your hole idiot.
<< <i>I'll leave feedback first for those buyers that are known to me.
That way they know that the item has shipped, with others I simply email them
telling them the item is on the way. I also explain that they need not leave feedback first
that an email telling me that they have received the item and are happy will suffice.
Again communication is key.
I will then leave them a positive.
Steve >>
See, that I don't do.
I don't leave feedback for them period until they have left me a positive.
I know I give 100% service so I wouldn't expect anything less then a positive. I email when auction ends, I email when they send payment to confirm that I have received their peyment, I email them when I ship with tracking info, and also make sure its packaged 100% and shipped out fast and item as described, so I expect nothing less.
As for them emailing you that everything is fine and then you leave positive for them, how about if they just trick you and leave a neg after? I don't think ebay would accept an email, would they? I think ebay would just do their usual like they do with everything else. They would probably just say, we really can't do anything with that email, he sent you a neg for a reason or something like that.
Thats great if its worked out for you so far, but I wouldn't count on it forver because there are some crazy people out there.
Giovanni
<< <i>You want the e-mail address of the more than 30 board members I've done business with on the BST boards? >>
You want me to bump more than 30 threads (which you likely started) that back up my point?
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<< <i>You want the e-mail address of the more than 30 board members I've done business with on the BST boards? >>
You want me to bump more than 30 threads (which you likely started) that back up my point? >>
Craig... dude... nobody cares....
Anyone else want to add anything to the topic at hand here?
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<< <i>You want the e-mail address of the more than 30 board members I've done business with on the BST boards? >>
You want me to bump more than 30 threads (which you likely started) that back up my point? >>
Craig... dude... nobody cares....
Anyone else want to add anything to the topic at hand here? >>
Nope....
It's a one dollar card, and I highly doubt you were trying to mislead anyone, to get rich, or pull a fast one.
Looks like Gumby has an axe to grind, and this thread gave him an opportunity.
Giovanni
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<< <i>You want the e-mail address of the more than 30 board members I've done business with on the BST boards? >>
You want me to bump more than 30 threads (which you likely started) that back up my point? >>
Craig... dude... nobody cares....
Anyone else want to add anything to the topic at hand here? >>
Nope....
It's a one dollar card, and I highly doubt you were trying to mislead anyone, to get rich, or pull a fast one.
Looks like Gumby has an axe to grind, and this thread gave him an opportunity. >>
Yeah, he jumps on any oppertunity to make me look bad. All the while making himself look that much more pathetic.
<< <i>Looks like Gumby has an axe to grind, and this thread gave him an opportunity. >>
If I have an axe to grind, then it's the ongoing drama that Alan creates around here.
It seems as though every few days he has gotten himself into something where he could have made life a LOT easier for himself and instead went out of his way to do the difficult thing. Then he comes here, tells half the story and then begs people to agree with his point of view. In most cases, questions are asked and the whole truth fleshes out. Alan usually ends up being the antagonist in the situation and a handful of folks here call him on it. In the end, Alan gets the opinions he has asked for...and when they don't match his point of view, he complains that the opinion is worthless and asks if anyone has anything valid to add. This repeats itself over and over until Alan either
a) creates a thread announcing that he is leaving the board (only to log in every night hoping for pity responses, only to return under a new moniker until someone calls him on it)
b) edits the subject of the thread saying, "GOT MY ANSWER - ALL SET"
c) blames everyone else in the world for his problems
d) combination of a & c
e) combination of b & c
Unfortunately, Alan is unable to apply the name of all of his registry sets - The Power of Positive Thinking - to his every day life. If he did, he wouldn't be some wound-up golly gee that posts here incessantly about how the world and everyone in it is out to get him....and then asks for everyone's opinion on the subject.
I'm sorry you didn't like my answer. Next time don't ask.
<< <i>Gumby,
Giovanni >>
Hey Gio,
That's twice you've used that animated gif to threaten violence and circumvent the word censor.
Congrats!
Craig
You seem to enjoy this a little too much.
If you open your eyes, the holder does say exactly what he listed it as. Myself, like Alan, would not know the difference. I know nothing about those cards, and would list it as the PSA flip describes it, too. That is exactly what Alan done, and it was a measly one dollar sale. Not exactly the scam of the century or a get rich quick scheme. You know this was just another chance for you to feel good about yourself by smashing him.
You have a snard attitude, and I have seen it displayed towards me, too. Don't know what your deal is, but I will just let it ride and hope we can get along in the future. This is just a message board, after all.
<< <i>So... Gumby, now that you have torn the guy down, and smashed him to the hilt, do you feel better?
You seem to enjoy this a little too much.
If you open your eyes, the holder does say exactly what he listed it as. Myself, like Alan, would not know the difference. I know nothing about those cards, and would list it as the PSA flip describes it, too. That is exactly what Alan done, and it was a measly one dollar sale. Not exactly the scam of the century or a get rich quick scheme. You know this was just another chance for you to feel good about yourself by smashing him.
You have a snard attitude, and I have seen it displayed towards me, too. Don't know what your deal is, but I will just let it ride and hope we can get along in the future. This is just a message board, after all. >>
Can you help me out here? What is a "snard" attitude? Since I've never heard the word "snard" before - and you've used it twice today to describe me - I looked it up on dictionary.com. They don't seem to know what that word is, either.
<< <i>So... Gumby, now that you have torn the guy down, and smashed him to the hilt, do you feel better?
You seem to enjoy this a little too much.
If you open your eyes, the holder does say exactly what he listed it as. Myself, like Alan, would not know the difference. I know nothing about those cards, and would list it as the PSA flip describes it, too. That is exactly what Alan done, and it was a measly one dollar sale. Not exactly the scam of the century or a get rich quick scheme. You know this was just another chance for you to feel good about yourself by smashing him.
You have a snard attitude, and I have seen it displayed towards me, too. Don't know what your deal is, but I will just let it ride and hope we can get along in the future. This is just a message board, after all. >>
And he tell me to take Xanax, lol.
Feel better Dumby?
<< <i>Well here in the Ozarks, that is a term for rude, jerk, arrogant type. >>
Thanks! If calling someone on their BS makes me rude, jerk, arrogant type, then I'm all over that.
<< <i>So... Gumby, now that you have torn the guy down, and smashed him to the hilt, do you feel better?
You seem to enjoy this a little too much. >>
Says the man that relentlessly hammered away on a poster about a 1933 Ruth card.
Theres pleanty of words people use, even people on these boards that don't exist in a dictionary, myself included, so what do you want now? A trophy??? I don't get it.
Giovanni
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<< <i>So... Gumby, now that you have torn the guy down, and smashed him to the hilt, do you feel better?
You seem to enjoy this a little too much. >>
Says the man that relentlessly hammered away on a poster about a 1933 Ruth card.
Except he wasnt PERSONALLY attacking anyone.
Read it again Tool.
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<< <i>So... Gumby, now that you have torn the guy down, and smashed him to the hilt, do you feel better?
You seem to enjoy this a little too much. >>
Says the man that relentlessly hammered away on a poster about a 1933 Ruth card.
I gave opinions about a card, and was not making personal insults, name calling and such towards the poster.
I was speaking about the card and the issues I felt was wrong with it, as to why it was not crossed over into a PSA holder.
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<< <i>Gumby,
Giovanni >>
Hey Gio,
That's twice you've used that animated gif to threaten violence and circumvent the word censor.
Congrats!
Craig >>
HAHAHAHAHAHA....... You're my hero Craig... now STFU please.
<< <i>HAHAHAHAHAHA....... You're my hero Craig... now STFU please. >>
Alan, please don't advertise that fact to people. I take no responsibility for your existence or the actions you take.
<< <i>I can't believe I waste time on this message board. I think it's time for me to start re-evaluating things. >>
Lee, I enjoy your posts, so keep em' coming my friend. You are an interesting character, in a good way.
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<< <i>I can't believe I waste time on this message board. I think it's time for me to start re-evaluating things. >>
Lee, I enjoy your posts, so keep em' coming my friend. You are an interesting character, in a good way. >>
I second that.
Craig I can do without though.
Its Alan's 2000th post
Congrats man!
Giovanni
<< <i>ON SNAP!!!!!
Its Alan's 2000th post
Congrats man!
Giovanni >>
Post count means nothing on here... take a look at Nicks post count. I bet at least 1% of those were worth the read.
<< <i>Post count means nothing on here... take a look at Nicks post count. I bet at least 1% of those were worth the read. >>
<< <i>Post count means nothing on here... take a look at Nicks post count. I bet at least 1% of those were worth the read. >>
Your attempt at a witty barb would work much better if you used only instead of at least. Let's try and see how it looks.
Post count means nothing on here... take a look at Nicks post count. I bet only 1% of those were worth the read.
Much crisper that way, don't you agree?
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<< <i>Post count means nothing on here... take a look at Nicks post count. I bet at least 1% of those were worth the read. >>
Your attempt at a witty barb would work much better if you used only instead of at least. Let's try and see how it looks.
Post count means nothing on here... take a look at Nicks post count. I bet only 1% of those were worth the read.
Much crisper that way, don't you agree? >>
Yeah, looks good Nick. Thanks for the edit
<< <i>Yeah, looks good Nick. Thanks for the edit
No thanks necessary. Helping the unfortunate is something I enjoy. Had I only known you years ago perhaps I could have stopped all the wedgies and gotten all your lunch money back.
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<< <i>Yeah, looks good Nick. Thanks for the edit
No thanks necessary. Helping the unfortunate is something I enjoy. Had I only known you years ago perhaps I could have stopped all the wedgies and gotten all your lunch money back. >>
Whatever happened to "choosing not to converse with me?"
Can we go back to that?
<< <i>This case is a textbook example why sellers should not leave feedback first without
the buyer leaving an email stating they are happy or positive feedback first.
Simply paying does not end the buyers responcibilty.
Steve >>
very true
<< <i>Whatever happened to "choosing not to converse with me?"
Can we go back to that? >>
Let it out Alan, those grade school boys can't bother you anymore. The days of your pants being thrown into the girls bathroom, and being stuffed in your locker are over.
<< <i>Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded. >>
..and then you said:
<< <i>And yes, Paypal does offer a chance to make things right... a refund... which I did.... did oyu even read this? >>
So which is it? Did you refund, or did the buyer win the dispute and paypal took their money back?
Sorry to bring up your varied recollections of the situation. I know you rarely have holes in your stories.
<< <i>First you said:
<< <i>Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded. >>
..and then you said:
<< <i>And yes, Paypal does offer a chance to make things right... a refund... which I did.... did oyu even read this? >>
So which is it? Did you refund, or did the buyer win the dispute and paypal took their money back?
Sorry to bring up your varied recollections of the situation. I know you rarely have holes in your stories. >>
DUMBY.......... TAKE A BREATH......... TAKE A XANAX............ AND READ THE POST MAN!
let's go over the steps real slow so you can understand it.....
1) I mailed card
2) He got card
3) He noticed the card was not as advertised
4) he filed a paypal claim
5) I refunded him because he was right, it's mislabeled
You all set now?
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<< <i>First you said:
<< <i>Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded. >>
..and then you said:
<< <i>And yes, Paypal does offer a chance to make things right... a refund... which I did.... did oyu even read this? >>
So which is it? Did you refund, or did the buyer win the dispute and paypal took their money back?
Sorry to bring up your varied recollections of the situation. I know you rarely have holes in your stories. >>
DUMBY.......... TAKE A BREATH......... TAKE A XANAX............ AND READ THE POST MAN!
let's go over the steps real slow so you can understand it.....
1) I mailed card
2) He got card
3) He noticed the card was not as advertised
4) he filed a paypal claim
5) I refunded him because he was right, it's mislabeled
You all set now? >>
Wow...calm down, Al. First you said the buyer "won" then you said you refunded. Those two things are mutually exclusive. If you refunded without waiting for paypal's judgement on the dispute, I highly doubt the buyer would have given you the feedback you received.
Calmer than you are.
<< <i>I sold THIS card on 1/27.
The card is labeled by PSA as "no trade line in bio" so that's how I advertised it. I knew nothing about this card because it was part of a bulk purchase I made.
The card is actually the "with trade line in bio" variation, so PSA mislabeled it.
Buyer filed a paypal claim and won because it was not the card that was advertised. Buyer was refunded.
Buyer then leaves me a neg saying, "Sent different item had to got to PayPal dispute - be careful - not recommeded"... TOTALLY UNNECESSARY in my mind. If you file a claim that was obviously PSA's mistake, and you get a refund, why not just call it an oops?
I left him a neg because he negged me. This was not just "retaliation" but I wanted other sellers to be aware that he's not a good eBayer IMO, he should've been happy with the refund.
Thoughts? >>
I think it's effective May 1st (not sure of the date) sellers will not be able to leave negs any longer to buyers. I know this has been discussed before, but I think "everyone" thought this might be rescinded. Unless it just changed, the last message I received from ebay is that this "no negs for buyers" policy is going ahead as scheduled.
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