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Let's play GUESS THE GRADE of the Saint!
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Edit: I changed my mind, from MS64 to a solid MS65. I just looked up some pictures from Heritage and yours looks like a solid 65, but it's no 66.
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<< <i>Yummy!
I don;t think that's a PCGSgrade.
If it was Hannukah gelt I'd accept it.
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<< <i>Too bad for those big dings. 64 was my first thought. Possible 65? >>
Those dings are the size of a flea's rectum.
The coin is 4X actual size.
probably ms65
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I grade it a MS66. I've seen 6 of the 8 MS65's and they are not even close to this one. Look at them in Heritage's archives and you.'ll see.
One lesson in large modern gold. These coins are heavy annd relatively soft. Just moving them in a sealed mint bag to a vault will cause tiny nicks. That is NOT the only criteria for grading Saiints. Ticks are allowed if the coin is GEM quality. The surfaces, skin, color and STRIKE is what matters equally as much. Don't be so critical of tiny hits. An MS67 can have them. It's the compilation of all the qualities that determines the grade.
Maybe this will grade MS66. That's a HUGE wall to get over. They just don't come nice enough and they are very tough on grading but IMO this one qualifies. There are only 2 66's.
Either way, it's as PQ as a 65 gets and will always be head and shoulders above the rest. That's good enough for me. Inasmuch as I'd love this coin in a 66 holder it will be a standout as a MS65 and get recognition for what it is, not whatthe label says. It will bring a 25-50% premium someday. But not anytime soon.
I LOVE her.
Has MP shot it yet?
I am no expert by any means but her left arm looks a little weak plus minor ticks on the obverse along with that gouge.
The reverse has the same ticks.
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Coin's for sale/trade.
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Putty maybe... but I wouldn't go there as SG will wish the Ebolia virus on you!!!
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very nice coin as usual SG!
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In the first image, it appeared that the strike was weak in the central part of the reverse. In the second image, the feather details are more defined and look fine.
Without the sticker, It's just another shiny stamped piece of metal to me.
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<< <i>This coin is a real 66. PCGS will never give it a 66 though because of their policy of protecting the top pops. It would have to be a real 67 to get a 66 grade.
Doesn't matter, its beautiful! >>
You are 100% correct. To get an upgrade for a date like this the coin must be a SOLID 66.
I stiill think it may be.
maybe removed a 7 and added the 4?
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