I thought that this Forum is not for selling, I guess I am wrong.
Realone
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Because when the coins that are shown by the seller is what many collect then nobody tells the op it is bad form to post here and not on the BST.
Heaven forbid when i started out posting here and made that mistake I was bombarded with, "take it to the BST", even though newbees really would have no clue. Recently a gal from Indiana posted here for the first time and started the thread that she got an inheritance from her grandaddy and was completing her coin books and wanted some help on whether or not to break out original bank wrapped rolls of coins. She got many answers, didn't really listen to what was advised to protect the coins and then told all it was all to be sold and by the way here is a link to her ebay website.
Almost nobody gave her crap about what she was doing by not moving to the BST because everyone seemed to be mesmerized by her loot. We should be consistent on this forum with the rules of the game. And secondly due to the fact hoaxes have occurred very few questioned the credibility because once again many were mesmerized by said hoard and didn't want to ask the right questions. Very often I read that when ebay sellers bring up grand-daddy's coins or inheritance that it typically is BS but on this occasion no one questioned the op. I believe we should have consistent standards and policies that are fairly administered. If you want to see coins for sale then lets open up this Forum and dump the BST, I have no problem with that, I am just looking for consistency. If one is going to cut slack for a little lady from Indiana then we should alolow a poor boy from CA the same freedom.
And when a inheritance or find or hoard is purported to be discovered lets not jump all over one op and let the other pull us around with a carot on a stick lets be fair to both, lets let them say whatever they want without questioning or if they are going to post here lets question them until all are satisfied. Lets just be consistent and fair.
Heaven forbid when i started out posting here and made that mistake I was bombarded with, "take it to the BST", even though newbees really would have no clue. Recently a gal from Indiana posted here for the first time and started the thread that she got an inheritance from her grandaddy and was completing her coin books and wanted some help on whether or not to break out original bank wrapped rolls of coins. She got many answers, didn't really listen to what was advised to protect the coins and then told all it was all to be sold and by the way here is a link to her ebay website.
Almost nobody gave her crap about what she was doing by not moving to the BST because everyone seemed to be mesmerized by her loot. We should be consistent on this forum with the rules of the game. And secondly due to the fact hoaxes have occurred very few questioned the credibility because once again many were mesmerized by said hoard and didn't want to ask the right questions. Very often I read that when ebay sellers bring up grand-daddy's coins or inheritance that it typically is BS but on this occasion no one questioned the op. I believe we should have consistent standards and policies that are fairly administered. If you want to see coins for sale then lets open up this Forum and dump the BST, I have no problem with that, I am just looking for consistency. If one is going to cut slack for a little lady from Indiana then we should alolow a poor boy from CA the same freedom.
And when a inheritance or find or hoard is purported to be discovered lets not jump all over one op and let the other pull us around with a carot on a stick lets be fair to both, lets let them say whatever they want without questioning or if they are going to post here lets question them until all are satisfied. Lets just be consistent and fair.
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smoe folks in Indiana are poor.
here we go
-Randy Newman
I know the thread(s) you are talking about.
I don't think they were meant as "selling threads".
As for asking advice and not listening to people? SO WHAT!!!!?????!!!!!
I ask for advice and don't always listen to it.
You are fixated on possible scam...there is NO SCAM shown in that thread.
As I said in that thread, maybe the mention of the ebay link was due to people asking about purchasing items. More than a few and that would be the easiest, and most fair, way to do it.
Unless you are privvy to all conversation with that poster, but others here, I don't think you can make the call.
This isn't about consistency, or lack of it. This is about YOU (and a few others who went the hoax route pretty early) putting your own spin on this and having problems wtih the post/poster.
Now, if the poster had started out with "hey...got these rolls, OBW, from great great granddaddy and I want a premium as they are all fresh....and they are all for sale...buy now!" then you would have a case.
If you READ a lot of the postings, you would see where she also said she wanted to submit but couldn't afford to submit them all and would likely have to sell some to pay for submitting. Nowhere did she say "PM me for info on buying" or even her ebay link...until later when she gave the ebay link.
Wanna make a bet that she had some PMs with offers to buy her coins/rolls?
Try seeing past the blinders and putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
As for hoaxes....I've seen them here. I've also seen where OVERZEALOUS "hoax busters" almost (or successfully) run off legit "hoards". Remember the gent with the "Dusty Rhodes" collection? Remember everyone calling him a hoax? He was ready to leave. Remember when it was true?
Tell me.....which would have been the greater sin......letting someone continue with a "hoax" like that? Or, running off someone legit with a hoard like that?
The legit ones seem to be those that post partial info and don't seem to have all the answers board members want from the first moment. Hoaxsters seem to be the polished ones that have all the info right at their fingertips.
I do think it is poor form for you to keep questioning her like this unless/until it is proven she was a hoax and that her sole intention with the USCF is selling. I think you are stuck on your own situation and it has left a bad taste in your mouth that you are taking out on others. It does not help your cause.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
However, you used mesmerized twice. That's two more times than I have heard that word used in 5 years.
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<< <i>you are not a poor boy from California
smoe folks in Indiana are poor. >>
Someone has an axe to grind......
Hey MH2. You are the rich punk from Cali. I am the poor pud from Indiana......
TC71
Don't snipe me bro......lol
<< <i>As usual Bochiman makes some good points.
Don't snipe me bro......lol >>
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<< <i>you are not a poor boy from California
smoe folks in Indiana are poor. >>
Someone has an axe to grind......
Hey MH2. You are the rich punk from Cali. I am the poor pud from Indiana......
TC71 >>
I was a po punk from the south side of Chicago before I moved to cali- and I'm far from rich at the moment
C6-7 neck surgery is not on the menu at Denny's anymore.
Wether realone is from California or Indiana- he is griping and carrying it on to a higher level than it needs be- best thing would be to drop it and MOVE ON with yer life.
now can we haze anyone else today? Post stupid questions. I like a weekend fight with unarmed intelligence....
Isn't that a poofable offense?
Proud recipient of two "You Suck" awards
Bottom line, it is in sellers best interest to have the BST as the place to sell.
Lumping everything into one forum would result in frutstrating both posters of topics of "conversation" and sellers/traders. It's more user friendly on both ends to have clear and separate forums. The competetion of two forum's bumping post mixing with new post would not be a plus for anyone. The result for searchs would also result in even more matches of non interest.
who's realalone?
""Recently a gal from Indiana posted here for the first time"
Realone.... Why would you say this in such a hateful and demeaning manner?
You only cast doubt on you own honesty and credibility when making such obviously false statments about one who has been a member longer than yourself.
sommerj
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Joined: Feb 2006
So do we need to formally decide to get in the face of all newbies who have coins and questions, and ask them up front if they think that eventually they possibly may consider discussing any sale of their coins, and if so, we want them to quickly move their discussion to the BST?
There are other examples. Dan's Ameros, quarter designs, etc. come to mind. He didn't come here soley to sell, but there was very strong desire from board members to buy, so forum discussions did include information about sales. It happens, and will continue to happen on occasion.
Established forum members know there is a BST, and what it's used for, and in general, play by the rules. That should keep the boards fairly clean, and that should be good enough.
We should be especially understanding of newbies so not to scare them off. Eventually, if they stay, they'll figure out all the rules, just like we did.
<< <i>As usual Bochiman makes some good points.
Don't snipe me bro......lol >>
Not until tomorrow night, right?
Btw...it is a nice one. Not as colorful as I was hoping (all of ours have some degree of toning) but it is nice. Rick has also said he would likely give it the eagle eye again if I crossed it because it is a nice one
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Very good points. However, you used mesmerized twice. That's two more times than I have heard that word used in 5 years.
Read more eBay coin auction descriptions... you'll catch another five years worth within the first few minutes.
JMO.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< <i>Why did she break those coins out of the original bank wrapped rolls? >>
According to Realone, she did is as part of an evil plot to sell some coins.
According to her, she did it to see what was inside and find some nice ones for her collection and some to send to PCGS for grading.
this place is an open venue for anybody to view, to get a feel for who's who and what might work in the way of a sales scam. if you fully believe all the newcomers here with heartfelt stories are genuine, well.......................many eBay scammers that would be fodder for a good thread have no doubt run things by us undetected. all they need to do is lurk for awhile and/or post a little, then spring the trap that many are waiting to place their foot in!!!!
perhaps the prudent thing in the future with a similar "newbie" is to direct them-----as early as possible-----to what exactly the rules are and get them to talk about anything having to do with selling items over at the BST forum. that will prevent the vultures among us from enticing even the honest newcomers to cross the line at the wrong forum. isn't it funny that there always seems to be problems with sellers at the U.S. Coin Forum but i have yet to see a newbie try to talk about coins over at the BST forum.
DUH..........................................
<< <i>and get them to talk about anything having to do with selling items over at the BST forum >>
so, if you are a newbie with a "secret" hoard you get to TTT your thread for days or weeks on the BST more than once a day (by others)? Or OP can only answer once a day? Which is it?
PM's all day, right? Uh huh, I bet.
<< <i>hey, ILikeMercs, here's an approach which may have worked well once the member in question had been directed to the BST. >>
I didn't mean to be argumentative (if you were talking to me) but it just seemed like, since it's a "violation" on the USCF, then continuing it on the BST isn't fair to others. Two wrongs don't make a right.
BTW, a perfect and fair example you pointed out.
<< <i>So if I post a guess the grade coin and smoeone PMs me and asks me if I want to sell it, does that mean I posted it here with the intent to sell? Some a that kind of thing does happen ya know. BTW how many PMs or comments does it take to bombard smoeone? 3? 10? 30? Methinks some here do protest too much. >>
a solicitation (your example) and what the OP is against (showcasing a "hoard") are two different things. No?
"Talk about all types of U.S. coins with other collectors, dealers, and experts."
It's for Discussion concerning coins.
Pretty self-explanatory, eh?
Last post! BYE
<< <i>i get the point your a ass & im out of your forums for good sorry i asked for advice if i should open them& ppl was asking if i would sale.(WAS NOT TRYING TO SALE THEM)
Last post! BYE >>
if everyone let one person bother them THAT much, this would be an insignificant board.
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<< <i>So if I post a guess the grade coin and smoeone PMs me and asks me if I want to sell it, does that mean I posted it here with the intent to sell? Some a that kind of thing does happen ya know. BTW how many PMs or comments does it take to bombard smoeone? 3? 10? 30? Methinks some here do protest too much. >>
a solicitation (your example) and what the OP is against (showcasing a "hoard") are two different things. No? >>
Don't most posters here use the BS&T board to a fair degree or at least peek at it on a regular basis?