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A famous 1820 half eagle: football fans check this out!

RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
I am reading the autobiography of Dan Rooney, owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Rooney reports that the coin toss for Super Bowl XIII between the Steelers and the Cowboys was performed by George Halas, owner and one-time player and coach for the Chicago Bears. According the Rooney, an "1820 gold coin" was used for the coin toss to celebrate the span of Halas' football career, which began in 1920.

The only gold coin struck in 1820 was the half eagle and it is one of the more common (but not most common) dates of the Fat Head $5 series. To me, this does not make sense. Why not use a 1920 Saint or Indian eagle? These would have been much more available and less expensive and more likely to survive a toss without diminishing the value of the coin. I wonder if it was a typo in the book or if Mr. Rooney misunderstood or did not recall correctly the date of the coin. Does anyone know anything about this?

At any rate, if I could find and acquire such a coin (be it the 1820 half eagle or the (?) Saint used for the coin toss), it would be the highlight of my collection.

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  • I bet in was a typo and they really used a 1920 dated saint.

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  • I would imagine it's a typo or misunderstanding
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think so, too. But as a Steelers fan, it would be ubercool to have the gold coin pedigreed to the coin toss for Super Bowl XIII! I bet some Bears fans might like to own the coin, too.
  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd go over to the Steelers message boards again, but when you brought up the 1921 Morgan for the coin toss with the Bears for the 1970 1st pick (Go Bradshaw) I created an account and asked if anyone knew where it was.

    I think almost 2 years later, they still mock the "Doofus asking about some stupid coin" on the McMillan & wife site! image Yup, I'm the doofus. Some hobbies just don't mix.

    It would be cool to own though.

    Jeff
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    Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Along the same lines, who has the $20 bill that was used to "monetize" the '33 Saint?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe Roger Burdette can get to the bottom this.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I have a rule against reading autobiographies. I think someone's view of their own life is too colored to accurately portray what really went on. With a biography (even if the subject is still alive and is interviewed), there is less of a risk of bias because lots and lots of people are interviewed about the subject of the book.

    As for your question, I agree that we should pay Burdette a BIG fee to get to the bottom of this!
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a rule against reading autobiographies. I think someone's view of their own life is too colored to accurately portray what really went on. With a biography (even if the subject is still alive and is interviewed), there is less of a risk of bias because lots and lots of people are interviewed about the subject of the book.

    As for your question, I agree that we should pay Burdette a BIG fee to get to the bottom of this! >>




    Now Longacre, when you go to Baltimore search out your own PQ coins and don't rely on the CAC stickers. You can pay for the whole venture with the money you will save!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I know it's a long shot but what year did they start film of these things. Maybe there is an archive where someone can go look at the actual coin toss? At least maybe an NFL photo archive where someone must have captured the toss.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I know it's a long shot but what year did they start film of these things. Maybe there is an archive where someone can go look at the actual coin toss? At least maybe an NFL photo archive where someone must have captured the toss. >>



    You know, that is a great idea. It should come as no surprise to you that I have the highlight DVDs for all of the Steelers' Super Bowls at home. I will check that tonight. If I do not find it, I will contact NFL films.

    I have a rule against reading autobiographies. I think someone's view of their own life is too colored to accurately portray what really went on. With a biography (even if the subject is still alive and is interviewed), there is less of a risk of bias because lots and lots of people are interviewed about the subject of the book.

    If this is your way of dissing Mr. Rooney, Longacre, we will have words when we meet in B'more! image
  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess is it was either a 1920 Saint or a foreign gold coin dated 1820. I may be able to get the answer to this. I'll report back if I do.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    my guess is:

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A 1920-S eagle, double eagle or sovereign would be a nice addition to my collection. Thanks for the thoughtful gift.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I know it's a long shot but what year did they start film of these things. Maybe there is an archive where someone can go look at the actual coin toss? At least maybe an NFL photo archive where someone must have captured the toss. >>



    You know, that is a great idea. It should come as no surprise to you that I have the highlight DVDs for all of the Steelers' Super Bowls at home. I will check that tonight. If I do not find it, I will contact NFL films.

    I have a rule against reading autobiographies. I think someone's view of their own life is too colored to accurately portray what really went on. With a biography (even if the subject is still alive and is interviewed), there is less of a risk of bias because lots and lots of people are interviewed about the subject of the book.

    If this is your way of dissing Mr. Rooney, Longacre, we will have words when we meet in B'more! image >>




    A guy I went to high school with works at NFL Films (I assume he is still there; I have not spoken to him a few years). His job is really cushy, and it basically involves schmoozing with the players, attending parties, flying on corporate jets, etc., etc. I guess someone has to do it. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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