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1983-D cent...I think

ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭
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Is this for real, like on experimental metal or maybe a foreign planchet? Or is it the result of someone having too much spare time on their hands and fooling around with it?

It belongs to a friend who got it back in the late 80's. It came through the convenience store as change. Taken under incandescent lighting...sorry, it doesn't have the yellowish tint that is showing in the pictures. AND...it is in a nickel holder so it is quite a bit larger than a normal cent. The metal looks like hammered aluminum to me. Give me your thoughts...
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    have you weighed the coin?


    greg

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  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭
    I wish I could. I've never got around to getting a scale for weighing coins. image
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Find a local coin dealer, he'll weigh it for you.
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    wondering if you can show a pic of it beside a normal lincoln cent so we can get an idea of how big it is.......does the planchet seem thinner?

    greg

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭
    Lee,

    Thanks, but do you have any other suggestion. In the center of Wyoming, there are no local coin dealers. The nearest one is probably 250 miles away. Maybe I better buy a scale...image
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  • richbeatrichbeat Posts: 2,288 ✭
    I'm a bit stumped on this one. I think weight will be the biggest key in determining what it is. My very first impression was that it had been de-plated post mint. Then I read where you said it is in a nickel holder, and quite a bit larger than a normal cent. Cents struck on a nickel planchet are supposed to be "impossible," since nickel planchets are larger than cent planchets. That doesn't mean it couldn't have been "helped" along. Keep us posted! image
  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭


    << <i> wondering if you can show a pic of it beside a normal lincoln cent so we can get an idea of how big it is.......does the planchet seem thinner >>



    It is thin...thinner than I would think it should be for the size. It doesn't feel right...light and thin for the diameter of the 'coin.' I put it in the nickel holder myself to give you an idea of the size. He had it in a plastic baggie. The color truly looks like that of the old hammered aluminum cooking pots from the old days.
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  • SottySotty Posts: 373 ✭
    If you take post 82 cents and put them on a hot plate long enough
    they will lose their copper coating somehow and look similar to the
    43 cents.

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  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭


    << <i> If you take post 82 cents and put them on a hot plate long enough >>


    But does it explain the size? The strike is good on all devices and lettering, nothing blurred or stretched. It is just too big for a cent holder and fits quite nicely in a nickel holder. I'll try to find a way to get it weighed this week.
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  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭
    The coin weighs 2.40 grams on a jewelers scale.

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  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭


    Anybody???

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it is a normal 1983-D cent with the outer copper layer removed by acid.
    I did an experiment once with nitic acid and got results like that.
    Moonlight Mint
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    But how would you account for the size? It looks cast to me. I also find it odd the the reverse legend tends to run into the rim.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But how would you account for the size? It looks cast to me. I also find it odd the the reverse legend tends to run into the rim. >>



    I agree with the cast.

    Al
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    That was my 1st opinion. Looks like a cast coin.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭


    << <i>Looks like a cast coin >>


    Please explain...I've no idea what a cast coin is or what the purpose for one would be...sorry image
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  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭


    << <i><< Looks like a cast coin >> >>


    I am going to assume that 'cast' is not good?

    Should I send it in for authentication then? image

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i><< Looks like a cast coin >> >>


    I am going to assume that 'cast' is not good?

    Should I send it in for authentication then? image >>


    No! It's not good..Read this from CU........................A replication of a genuine coin usually created by making molds of the obverse and reverse, then casting base metal in the molds. A seam is usually visible on the edge unless it has been ground away.

    Al
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Since it is larger than a cent, it probably is not a cast from an actual cent but perhaps a mold made in some other fashion.

    In conclusion, I do not think this is a product of the US mint. It's more likely someone was playing around and cast it from a mold.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    if it is from the mint i kinda think it might be the chinese mint. jmo
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  • ironhorse19ironhorse19 Posts: 136 ✭
    It's been confirmed as 'cast' so now I know. Thank you to those who suggested 'cast' as the culprit in this case. It made it easy to submit photos to Coneca and confirm it. image
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