Questionable slab - looks like air bubbles?

grhohertz · February 21, 2008 1:20PM

Has anyone seen PCGS slabs in this state before? Is this a 'normal' problem, or indicative of another problem?

Thanks ahead of time for your comments.

*Edited to add higher res scan

DJCoinz · February 21, 2008 1:21PM

Whoa, that's weird.

speety · February 21, 2008 1:21PM

Edit, just saw the new pictures....i have no clue whats going on???? Looks like the insert melted, look how it's draping over the coin.

grhohertz · February 21, 2008 1:23PM

I have these in hand, and it definitely looks like air pockets. At first I thought maybe it was an older holder (I'm relatively new to coins), but the cert# is newer relative to some other PCGS slabs I have.

STONE · February 21, 2008 1:24PM

My guess is that the slabs started to melt causing bubbles and distortions of the plastic.

harvey85422458 · February 21, 2008 1:24PM

weird I've never seen that before

jdillane · February 21, 2008 1:28PM

Hmmmm....what happened to QC?

TomB · February 21, 2008 1:33PM

They may have been heated after they were shipped from PCGS. I have seen in-hand some damaged slabs that went through the post office after the anthrax scare that were damaged from postal handling. Apparently, some packages that go through certain post offices are hit with heat or other forms of radiation and can damage the contents. These previously damaged slabs looked similar to the ones shown in the first post, though they definitely looked worse than the present slabs.

direwolf1972 · February 21, 2008 1:44PM

My guess is heat too. Maybe left on the dash of a car during summer after picking up from PCGS delivery?

garsmith · February 21, 2008 1:50PM

Looks like heat or chemicals, smoething turned your insert to a partial liquid state for a short time; I have one that has cracks in the insert I think that was caused by heat.

JRocco · February 21, 2008 1:50PM

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Is the coin elliptical?

grhohertz · February 21, 2008 1:57PM

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Is the coin elliptical? >>

Nah, the top of the coin is tilted back a bit, and since it was a scan it just looks that way.

sinin1 · February 21, 2008 2:15PM

I had one that turned like that

was on the dash in the car during the summer

don't leave your kids/pets in the car with windows closed if you are in a hot location

ElmerFusterpuck · February 21, 2008 2:16PM

AT

Bear · February 21, 2008 2:19PM

Not AT, it is DP........Distorted Plastic

oxy8890 · February 21, 2008 3:34PM

<< Not AT, it is DP........Distorted Plastic

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Yep, wise old Bear knows all!

Keep those coins off the dash board during those Arizona summers and those issues will be avoided.

BECOKA · February 21, 2008 3:35PM

I have seen that when left in the sun these inserts do really wacky things.

Cameonut · February 21, 2008 9:50PM

Maybe ElmerFusterpuck is on the right track.

It definately looks heat related to me. It could have been an accident or maybe it was a deliberate attempt to AT the coin in the holder by exposure to heat. Those docs will try anything.

UtahCoin · February 21, 2008 9:53PM

<< Not AT, it is DP........Distorted Plastic

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Yes, but is it Natural Distorted Plastic, or Artificial Distorted Plastic??

Seriously, looks like some heat was applied.

UtahCoin · February 21, 2008 9:59PM

<< Maybe ElmerFusterpuck is on the right track.

It definitely looks heat related to me. It could have been an accident or maybe it was a deliberate attempt to AT the coin in the holder by exposure to heat. Those docs will try anything. >>

I think you may be right. And possibly PCGS was aware of this and quietly changed the insert to be less stable with the application of heat?

Tootawl · February 21, 2008 10:11PM

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Is the coin elliptical? >>

Looks like the slab melted and some of the liquid plastic poured on top of the coin. Hopefully PCGS and reholder it and not damage the coin.

tahoe98 · February 22, 2008 4:33AM

looks like trapped water...............someone might have given it the "water test" to see if it was "air tight"

LickThoseStamps · February 22, 2008 5:27AM

Those pics are a compelling argument not to buy a slab sight-unseen!

grhohertz · February 22, 2008 9:14AM

<< looks like trapped water...............someone might have given it the "water test" to see if it was "air tight"

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hehe ya, it does - but it is indeed solid (ie, when you move the slab it doesn't move).

<< Those pics are a compelling argument not to buy a slab sight-unseen! >>

True...and if I paid more than $6 for it I might be upset. It was part of a batch of coins that I picked up, so no biggie.

Griv · February 22, 2008 9:19AM

My question is how did that coin gade at PR69DCAM? Looking like a 68 unless it's all the holders fault. Is that water or a melt or a photohop?

Questionable slab - looks like air bubbles?

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